name the worst npc teammate of all time

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#1 fireandcloud
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ok, an npc teammate can be anyone that's not your main character, which means you can name someone who's on your party that you can control, like all the characters in bg 1 & 2 that can join your party (over whom you have control). and you can define 'worst' in any way you want.

i'm nominating dom from gears of war, just cuz i'm playing it currently (and trying my best to finish the game as quickly as possible). he keeps getting injured again and again. ****ing annoying sob, he is. anyway, who's the worst npc teammate?

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#2 CavalAnts
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That's prolly why i finished this game only in coop mode with my friend :D
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Army Of two had some of the worst AI ive seen, but as far as computer games go i would probably say Diablo2 (when you hire some mercenaries)
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#4 biggest_loser
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The gang members from San Andreas are pretty damn dreadful.

They can never keep up and will often get run over by cars, or they will just stand bewildered at the traffic lights.

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The gang members from San Andreas are pretty damn dreadful.

They can never keep up and will often get run over by cars, or they will just stand bewildered at the traffic lights.

biggest_loser

hahaha, i definatly agree, good call on that one, i remember they pissed me off quite a bit :lol:

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#6 Buffalo_Soulja
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Every party member in NWN2. I ended up turning off the AI and babysitting them all.
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dom...
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#8 Kuyt19
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Any team member from R6 Lockdown who gets in my line of fire. Argh!
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All the guys in Brothers in Arms.

You order them to shoot at someone just outside their field of view, and instead of moving an inch to the left, they stand around shouting: I can't shoot there!

I've never played with an AI that pissed me off as much as the Brothers in Arms guys. I think the fact that I could order them to their deaths and they would blindly charge at my command was the only thing that got me through those games...

Ahhh, they were happier times... Sacrificing Americans. It's wholesome fun.

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I seem to remember some that were pretty annoying in Morrowind, especially when you end up with someone incredibly weak following you then you want to go off and do a mission but they keep dying, most of the time I just leave them in the middle of nowhere.
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All the guys in Brothers in Arms.

You order them to shoot at someone just outside their field of view, and instead of moving an inch to the left, they stand around shouting: I can't shoot there!

I've never played with an AI that pissed me off as much as the Brothers in Arms guys. I think the fact that I could order them to their deaths and they would blindly charge at my command was the only thing that got me through those games...

Ahhh, they were happier times... Sacrificing Americans. It's wholesome fun.

fatshodan


That's one reason why i am not so excited about new BiA. Because i don't like dragging a group of idiots with me through whole game and then have to kill almost all enemies myself. Feels like pain in the ***.

But i hope they improve ai.

Also in NWN 2 the teammates were sometimes pain, but at least they woke up, after the battle and sometimes they did something right.

And also in oblivion i hate rushing allies, they always run in front and die and i have to do missions again and again if i want them to stay alive.

And not going to comment GTA SA or VC team ai, that was just horrible. ( at least i didn't have to drive alone, that was the ony good side.)
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#13 bogaty
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In terms of annoying personality, that stupid gnome and half-elf druid from NWN2 win hands down. The fact that you can't kill them, grind them into sausage and sell them to kobalds makes it even worse.

In terms of retarded AI, that's a toss up between AI wingmen in IL-2 or missile units in the TW series. The IL-2 AI pretty much ignore you and the orders you issue 90% of the time. Missile units in the TW series LURRRVE to fire arrows into melees, even when you order them not to.

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Hands down, Superfly Johnson from Daikatana. God, that's the worst Friendly AI I've ever come across.

Inside a ventilation shaft with him, and I'm trying to go forward with him in front of me. But he just refuses to go forward at all. So I order him to go forward. He doesn't move. I try to push him. He doesn't nudge. I decide to pull out of the ventilation shaft in hopes he'll come with me so I can refocus my strategy. He doesn't follow. I order him to follow. He refuses. He stays in the ventilation shaft uttering terms like "Come on, we have to get moving."

If there was friendly fire in that game I can guarantee he wouldn't be alive often.

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Inside a ventilation shaft with him, and I'm trying to go forward with him in front of me. But he just refuses to go forward at all. So I order him to go forward. He doesn't move. I try to push him. He doesn't nudge. I decide to pull out of the ventilation shaft in hopes he'll come with me so I can refocus my strategy. He doesn't follow. I order him to follow. He refuses. He stays in the ventilation shaft uttering terms like "Come on, we have to get moving."

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:lol: where did that little gem of a game 'daikatana' go wrong? i mean, really...

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The gang members from San Andreas are pretty damn dreadful.

They can never keep up and will often get run over by cars, or they will just stand bewildered at the traffic lights.biggest_loser

Very true, indeed.

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#17 artistry_
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Haha I despised those gaming moments when DOM wouldnt get his sorry ass out of the line of fire, leaving me alone yet again to revive him during lulls in firefight.

But curiously I played Jericho a strange squad based horror thingy-ma-jig which absolutely has to take it hands down .,. some five memebers who all would clog hallways and basically offer no resistance and plain die repeatedly, oh why the horror LOL

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Hands down, Superfly Johnson from Daikatana. God, that's the worst Friendly AI I've ever come across.

Inside a ventilation shaft with him, and I'm trying to go forward with him in front of me. But he just refuses to go forward at all. So I order him to go forward. He doesn't move. I try to push him. He doesn't nudge. I decide to pull out of the ventilation shaft in hopes he'll come with me so I can refocus my strategy. He doesn't follow. I order him to follow. He refuses. He stays in the ventilation shaft uttering terms like "Come on, we have to get moving."

If there was friendly fire in that game I can guarantee he wouldn't be alive often.

1carus

That game made me cry when i was younger... i remember being SOOO hyped up for it after seeing previews and pictures in a pc mag, and then trying the game and just being like "mmmmmmmmm... Orly?":lol:

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Delta Force team from Black Hawk Down. They're very stupid.
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Delta Force team from Black Hawk Down. They're very stupid.thusaha

Wasn't it all just scripted?! lol

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[QUOTE="thusaha"]Delta Force team from Black Hawk Down. They're very stupid.biggest_loser

Wasn't it all just scripted?! lol

The enemy are stupid too, unfortunately they're still smarter than my teammates.
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#22 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="thusaha"]Delta Force team from Black Hawk Down. They're very stupid.thusaha

Wasn't it all just scripted?! lol

The enemy are stupid too, unfortunately they're still smarter than my teammates.

lol, I remember when my old computer wasn't good enough to play that game so the graphics were all messed up and the helicopter and buildings wouldn't render properly.

I was so cut lolz.

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Any team member from R6 Lockdown who gets in my line of fire. Argh!Kuyt19

I agree with you...I never forget those ???? that were always disturbing me,specially Price and Loiselle..!!

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Any team member from R6 Lockdown who gets in my line of fire. Argh!Kuyt19

God i hated that game... haha, worst in the Rainbow6 series

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I usually avoided the caster type henchmen from the original Neverwinter Nights because they almost always used all of their spells with two fights.

Vix, from Dungeon Siege 2, was dead weight because he would be knocked out evey fight. It sucks the fun out of the game when you have to stop after every single battle to revive him.

There are three types of henchmen in Guild Wars. The heroes and standard henchmen are ok and you can finish the game with them. The other type only show up for certain quest. These guy are stone dumb. They won't attack anything until they see it. If you're playing a ranged support class you end up having to get very close to the main fight for these guys to be of any use at all.

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#26 deactivated-5b5d7639964d6
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Every npc from half-life.
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Tails, from "sonic and tails" .... did he even attempt to save you, i mean even once? ... Useless
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Dom, hands down, I'd tell him to regroup and he'd take cover on the side he was being shot at.
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Any team member from R6 Lockdown who gets in my line of fire. Argh!Kuyt19

Yeah, you can't even grenade and clear, because they will nade themself. Still a fun game though.

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[QUOTE="thusaha"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="thusaha"]Delta Force team from Black Hawk Down. They're very stupid.biggest_loser

Wasn't it all just scripted?! lol

The enemy are stupid too, unfortunately they're still smarter than my teammates.

lol, I remember when my old computer wasn't good enough to play that game so the graphics were all messed up and the helicopter and buildings wouldn't render properly.

I was so cut lolz.

I was but a wee lad playing on my Dell Dimension (or some crappy $400 computer) when I got that game. Good times, good times indeed. Too bad I sucked back then and eventually cheated my way through because I couldn't beat a certain mission. I never figured out how to play online either.

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Damn you Ian! No SMG you for. (Fallout reference)
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#32 Swiftstrike5
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I'm going to have to go with dom. Several times he will be on the wrong side of cover and he might as well sit in a corner and count rocks during boss fights. He doesn't last 3seconds (not exagerating) in the Brumak and he runs directly at the final boss, which usually results in instant death. He's only good (and by good, I mean the only thing he can do) for a distraction. At least it's a good co-op game.
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#33 Kuyt19
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lol...."Alpha 2, Yakoby is down. Leave her." So different from Vegas.
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lol...."Alpha 2, Yakoby is down. Leave her." So different from Vegas.Kuyt19

LOL, we have a mission, leave her to die! She just gets in the way.

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talk about cold harsh decisions.....haha
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There was a CIA girl in FarCry and she was important to the whole story.....but what a pain in the butt.
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#37 pieatorium
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Damn you Ian! No SMG you for. (Fallout reference) LockeAteid

I was going to say Ian, he can be a great help early if your not very combat oreinted but giving him any kind of burst fire weapon amounts to pretty much suicide.

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[QUOTE="LockeAteid"]Damn you Ian! No SMG you for. (Fallout reference) pieatorium

I was going to say Ian, he can be a great help early if your not very combat oreinted but giving him any kind of burst fire weapon amounts to pretty much suicide.

He does tend to turn you into swiss cheese fairly quickly when you turn back to him after handing him a automatic weapon. While BI did give you one of the worst ally NPC (if you so wished it) in Fallout, its pretty much off-set by the fact they also give you one of the best NPCs: AKA, Dogmeat.

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I don't remember his name,but there was this nord in Morrowind. I was on a quest,and he was my companion for some reason (this was a couple of years ago,I'm a bit sketchy on the details).

I do remember that for some reason,we got caught in a sandstorm in the desert,and countless numbers of times,he would slide down a hill and get stuck,or fall behind me. It took almost half an hour of running to get out of the storm due to him being so stupid,and when we finally got out,he got attacked by a cliff racer and died.

I wasted half an hour lugging that guy through a storm just to have him get killed because he couldn't aim upwards.

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All the guys in Brothers in Arms.

You order them to shoot at someone just outside their field of view, and instead of moving an inch to the left, they stand around shouting: I can't shoot there!

I've never played with an AI that pissed me off as much as the Brothers in Arms guys. I think the fact that I could order them to their deaths and they would blindly charge at my command was the only thing that got me through those games...

Ahhh, they were happier times... Sacrificing Americans. It's wholesome fun.

fatshodan

No offence, but the BIA series as been has been renowned for it's very strategic and ever-changing AI, especially EIB. So I think maybe you played it wrong, because I never had your situation come up at all.

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#41 mrbojangles25
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Daikatana and NWN 2 has the worst npc ai ever imo
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In terms of annoying personality, that stupid gnome and half-elf druid from NWN2 win hands down

bogaty

i liked that little gnome.. he has his moments.. the character i really hate in that game is the demon girl rogue... annoying voice.

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Farhoth, from Morrowind.
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That damn girl from HL. What was her name again? Assyx? Yeah I do believe her name was Assyx Tard.
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#45 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="bogaty"]

In terms of annoying personality, that stupid gnome and half-elf druid from NWN2 win hands down

Lilgunney612

i liked that little gnome.. he has his moments.. the character i really hate in that game is the demon girl rogue... annoying voice.

awwww i loved her

she was cute and naughty, but her voice did tend to get annoying.

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[QUOTE="bogaty"]

In terms of annoying personality, that stupid gnome and half-elf druid from NWN2 win hands down

Lilgunney612

i liked that little gnome.. he has his moments.. the character i really hate in that game is the demon girl rogue... annoying voice.

I expected her or a character just like her. Bioware has this thing about throwing in the vulnerable, naive yet streetwise waif girl/thief type character into all their games. I guess Obsidian decided to follow suit. You had Imoen in BG and BGII, Mission Vao in KOTOR, and NWN2 added Neeska.

I didn't mind her. Yeah, her voice was kinda grating but I thought she was funny.

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I expected her or a character just like her. Bioware has this thing about throwing in the vulnerable, naive yet streetwise waif girl/thief type character into all their games. I guess Obsidian decided to follow suit. You had Imoen in BG and BGII, Mission Vao in KOTOR, and NWN2 added Neeska.

bogaty

lol. they added aerie to the mix in bg2 for good measure, since

***mild spoiler***

imoen goes away for a while.

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[QUOTE="fatshodan"]

All the guys in Brothers in Arms.

You order them to shoot at someone just outside their field of view, and instead of moving an inch to the left, they stand around shouting: I can't shoot there!

I've never played with an AI that pissed me off as much as the Brothers in Arms guys. I think the fact that I could order them to their deaths and they would blindly charge at my command was the only thing that got me through those games...

Ahhh, they were happier times... Sacrificing Americans. It's wholesome fun.

CavalAnts



That's one reason why i am not so excited about new BiA. Because i don't like dragging a group of idiots with me through whole game and then have to kill almost all enemies myself. Feels like pain in the ***.

But i hope they improve ai.

Also in NWN 2 the teammates were sometimes pain, but at least they woke up, after the battle and sometimes they did something right.

And also in oblivion i hate rushing allies, they always run in front and die and i have to do missions again and again if i want them to stay alive.

And not going to comment GTA SA or VC team ai, that was just horrible. ( at least i didn't have to drive alone, that was the ony good side.)

It's not the group you're dragging around that is the idiot.

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[QUOTE="CavalAnts"][QUOTE="fatshodan"]

All the guys in Brothers in Arms.

You order them to shoot at someone just outside their field of view, and instead of moving an inch to the left, they stand around shouting: I can't shoot there!

I've never played with an AI that pissed me off as much as the Brothers in Arms guys. I think the fact that I could order them to their deaths and they would blindly charge at my command was the only thing that got me through those games...

Ahhh, they were happier times... Sacrificing Americans. It's wholesome fun.

fatzebra



That's one reason why i am not so excited about new BiA. Because i don't like dragging a group of idiots with me through whole game and then have to kill almost all enemies myself. Feels like pain in the ***.

But i hope they improve ai.

Also in NWN 2 the teammates were sometimes pain, but at least they woke up, after the battle and sometimes they did something right.

And also in oblivion i hate rushing allies, they always run in front and die and i have to do missions again and again if i want them to stay alive.

And not going to comment GTA SA or VC team ai, that was just horrible. ( at least i didn't have to drive alone, that was the ony good side.)

It's not the group you're dragging around that is the idiot.

ooooh....that has to sting...lol

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COD 4 had great idea, but Lt. Vasquez really annoyed me.

Captain MacMillain also died really easily to wild dogs.