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#1 blackleather223
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First off I would like to beable to run SC2 star craft 2 and the next one after that as well as SC2 supreme commander 2 all of these maxed or close to it at least. Far as a pc goes this is what I have

case: 932 HAF full tower with 3 massive fans and one 140 mm fan in back if you want more info you should look this up you self if you don't mind cause I just don't want to go through the trouble in doing it my self.

PSU: ultra 750 watts atx

Mobo: M4a89gtd pro/usb 3

cpu: AMD phenom II x6 1055t socket am3 938

GPU: came with Mobo so I had no choice but to have this GPU at the time. ATI Radeon HD 4290 368 mb. So I believe that this is what is slowing my pc down and am unable to play alot of my games maxed out. I have alot more then what I named off but if I can get a gpu that can run those games on max then the rest I should have should run fine maxed out.

RAM: 12gb DDR3 dual channel

OS: 7 home premium 64 bit

sound card is onboard came with MOBO and it sounds great. So I'll keep this.

HDD: Hitachi 1TB

If I have left any thing out let me know and I'll do my best to tell you what it is.

My budget is up to 200.00 preferable less then this. Also this GPU needs to run cool and quiet but mainly cool. Also does more memory on a gpu help a game play better and if this is so then add it into the price as well. Also I have no plan to cross fire or what ever it is called cause it is rather a tight squeeze in side of this big case that I have. The lay out of the mobo is terrible in my opion but oh well it looked good at the moment. I don't want to go to liquid cooling no not for me.

If you don't mind just give me an idea of what could be a good gpu and I'll look into what ever you suggest to me. Now far as the money goes I really don't plan to go as high as 200.00 but it is just a rough idea.

This pc at the time when the 6x core just came out on the market. I was one of a few people out there who had such a pc and so all and all this pc cost me 800.00 at the time along with a cd/dvd rom and other stuff. I didn't need a key board or mouse or monitor

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My budget is up to 200.00 preferable less then this. Also this GPU needs to run cool and quiet but mainly cool. Also does more memory on a gpu help a game play better and if this is so then add it into the price as well. Also I have no plan to cross fire or what ever it is called cause it is rather a tight squeeze in side of this big case that I have. The lay out of the mobo is terrible in my opion but oh well it looked good at the moment. I don't want to go to liquid cooling no not for me.

If you don't mind just give me an idea of what could be a good gpu and I'll look into what ever you suggest to me. Now far as the money goes I really don't plan to go as high as 200.00 but it is just a rough idea.

blackleather223

your system as is actually is pretty darn good by todays standards i know plenty of people rocking 1065t's (unlocked 960t's most of the time) or like me have the higher end phenom II x6's.

their quite potent asily just as good as the phenom fx-4170 or better.

anyway tc you can actually max out starcraft II pretty easily as could you supreme commander 2 and most other rts's without spending all your budget.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646

$140 free copy of nba 2k11 and that can max SCII @ 1440 x 900 or lower at around 60fps

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389

now if we go to this 160 dollar card i imagibne the avg fps would be much higher something like 70-80fps @ 1440 x 900 (slightly above 720p) and it comes with a free copy of dirt 3 likely 60fps avg @ 1080p

now if you want to take your budget to the wall and blow its brain out we got this lovely option at flat 200 bucks before taxes.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500196

which will easily max almost every game you can buy @ 40fps avg's as a minimum (so screw SCII were talking crysis 2, max payne 3, witcher 2, etc.) @ 1080p i imagine much higher in SCII. i have a similarly preforming card to option 3 there and i max out SCII @ 1360 x 768 (basically 720p) @ around 90fps avg however be aware that your cpu is going to be your limiting factor more than your gpu in rts's. she wont flinch at all playing supreme commander 2 or total war series games but some of starcraft II's custom game modes such as say nexus wars or desert strike will eventually take their toll. i usually only lag during the final few waves of those games anyway or the last wave of desert strike when there is like 600 or so units on screen at once XD

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Forgot to mention I have a 22in. monitor. I knew I was forgeting something. Well thank you alot. At the moment I can only barly run sc2 and starcraft 2 on low and some on medium but if I try to go higher then that a warning message comes on and says lower your graphs in order to run smoother and so I do and it is ok but you know I have this very nice machine and I can't seem to beable to push it by using these games to max or at least better then the lower end that I am forced to play with at the moment. I know there is away to boost the GPU that I have but I am not that tech savvy so to speak. When it come to installing this stuff I can do it but come the technical stuff and data stuff I am at a lost. but I do read as much as I can on most of the stuff that I look at before I go and buy it. What ever I am interested in. I forgot to mention that from time to time I play on a 42" LED HDTV by HDMI cable from my pc to my tv and when I did play C&C on it it was beautiful and very bright befor I did anything with the graphics.. Well then again that was all maxed out far as the graphs go but far as the rez whent I didn't max that out at all.
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JUst took a look at the third GPU card that is for 200.00 and that card isn't for me cause I read the reviews and most if not all said that it got hot and I don't neeed a GPU that gets hot. I need a cool GPU.
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JUst took a look at the third GPU card that is for 200.00 and that card isn't for me cause I read the reviews and most if not all said that it got hot and I don't neeed a GPU that gets hot. I need a cool GPU.blackleather223

That card will stay cool in your case, I assure you.

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#6 ionusX
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[QUOTE="blackleather223"]JUst took a look at the third GPU card that is for 200.00 and that card isn't for me cause I read the reviews and most if not all said that it got hot and I don't neeed a GPU that gets hot. I need a cool GPU.Daanyal

That card will stay cool in your case, I assure you.

gtx 560ti hot.. bwahahahaha what lies are these?

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#7 blackleather223
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Thank you all. I was wondering is 84 degree F is this running hot or is this cool for a pc. I ask this cause my room along is 82 degrees F and in the pc it is around the same roughly. So I was causious about what GPU I am going to get. I really don't want to spend that kind of money but who knows how low some of this stuff will get once I do decide what GPU I want to get.
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#8 Daanyal
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Thank you all. I was wondering is 84 degree F is this running hot or is this cool for a pc. I ask this cause my room along is 82 degrees F and in the pc it is around the same roughly. So I was causious about what GPU I am going to get. I really don't want to spend that kind of money but who knows how low some of this stuff will get once I do decide what GPU I want to get.blackleather223

If that's at load (running a game), then it's very, very cool. If that's at idle (doing nothing), then it's normal.

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#9 blackleather223
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This temp is at idle. When under load I'm sure it gets hotter then this . Now my machine was in the mid 90's to lower 100 once and I'm assuming that this would be bad for a computer to run this hot but I fixed it by blowing out as much dust as I could espicaly around the fans an d the cpu fan and now it is running at around the lower 80's and all of these tems are Farinhite or what ever it is spelled.
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#10 Daanyal
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This temp is at idle. When under load I'm sure it gets hotter then this . Now my machine was in the mid 90's to lower 100 once and I'm assuming that this would be bad for a computer to run this hot but I fixed it by blowing out as much dust as I could espicaly around the fans an d the cpu fan and now it is running at around the lower 80's and all of these tems are Farinhite or what ever it is spelled.blackleather223

You only need to worry when it gets to 130F at idle. Your temps are just fine. Play an intensive game, and tell us your temperatures then. That's what really matters.