Need Entry Level IPS Panel Monitor (Links Provided)

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#1 yonikko
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Which one of these should I get? I will be using it for both gaming and designing.

LG IPS231P-BN 23"
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LG IPS236V 23"
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Dell Ultrasharp U2312HM 23"
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As you guys can see, my budget is only $200-250 USD. I need to pick one by this weekend.

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#2 XaosII
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They all use the same IPS Panel manufactured by LG. The differences are pretty subtle. Your purchasing decision should be made on aesthetics, number of connectors, power usage, warranty, etc.... basically, nearly anything besides image quality. All 3 are fine monitors.

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#3 yonikko
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Note that the first two are either used or refurbished. Will that matter? or should I just go for a new Ultrasharp?

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#4 XaosII
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Both my IPS monitors are refurbished: NEC LCD2490WuXi and HP ZR24W. I've had pretty good luck with both of them being refurbished, so my biased opinion is to tell you to go refurbished if you are comfortable with their warranty and return period.

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#5 yonikko
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Which one would most likely have no ips glow or blacklight bleed?

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#6 yonikko
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bump^

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#7 XaosII
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Which one would most likely have no ips glow or blacklight bleed?

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All three panels will have IPS glow. All 3 panel's glows will be identical as they all use the same LG panel. Monitors without IPS glow have a special A-TW polarizer to kill the effect, but you typically will not find them in monitors below the $500 range.

Backlight bleeding on most IPS monitors is usually not a problem as IPS monitors are held (and priced) to a higher standard. You'll typically only find those issues if your monitor is defective or on very cheap monitors.

If you are looking for a clearer answer: The safest bet is the Dell considering its very popular and it is non-refurbished with a longer warranty and return period.

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#8 yonikko
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Would you suggest a higher quality TN panel? Since I'm doing graphic designing, I feel like the IPS glow will prevent me from working with blacks which I do alot. I also heard that contrast of IPS is not as good as TN. Is that true? And thank you for helping out:)

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TN panel monitors have alot more backlight bleeding and uneven back-lighting. You will still have "glow" on certain parts. IPS glow can be horrid for gaming but it really has never bothered me with editing photos or any other professional thing.

And no contrast is the same on TN and IPS. TN panels have slightly and possibly unnoticeably higher response time but everything else is superior or equal on IPS.

My monitor has almost no backlight bleed. IPS glow can be reduced by tilting the monitor upwards just the way a monitor is supposed to be placed.

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#10 yonikko
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TN panel monitors have alot more backlight bleeding and uneven back-lighting. You will still have "glow" on certain parts. IPS glow can be horrid for gaming but it really has never bothered me with editing photos or any other professional thing.

And no contrast is the same on TN and IPS. TN panels have slightly and possibly unnoticeably higher response time but everything else is superior or equal on IPS.

My monitor has almost no backlight bleed. IPS glow can be reduced by tilting the monitor upwards just the way a monitor is supposed to be placed.

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Thanks for the response. Which one would you recommend out of those three entry level IPS monitor? I am still a student so I would not spend $1000 on a monitor yet :P

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#11 Gambler_3
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I would take the dell one as pointed above it's a very popular unit and brand new so it's the safest way to go.

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In a strange twist, Dell make the best IPS for a good price, mine's a Dell.
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#13 Makari
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In a strange twist, Dell make the best IPS for a good price, mine's a Dell.JohnF111
They pretty much always have had something that's in there, starting with the 2001FP back in... 01? 02? :) And OP, if you're doing graphic design I'd say don't get a TN at any cost - if nothing else, the color shifting should play merry hell with everything you try to do. 'Most people don't notice it' would be a bad idea when you're dealing with creating source content. I'd also second that you can't really go wrong with any of the 3, though I like the new + warranty of the Dell. What's their return policy like for dead pixels? It's been a while.
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#14 yonikko
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]In a strange twist, Dell make the best IPS for a good price, mine's a Dell.Makari
They pretty much always have had something that's in there, starting with the 2001FP back in... 01? 02? :) And OP, if you're doing graphic design I'd say don't get a TN at any cost - if nothing else, the color shifting should play merry hell with everything you try to do. 'Most people don't notice it' would be a bad idea when you're dealing with creating source content. I'd also second that you can't really go wrong with any of the 3, though I like the new + warranty of the Dell. What's their return policy like for dead pixels? It's been a while.

Yes I have been frustrated of the color shifting in TN panels that is why I'm looking for an IPS. I was just wondering if higher quality TN panels have better viewing angle than regular TN ones. I guess it is the same for every TN panels.

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No TN or VA panel can match IPS with viewing angle. Only CRT's and plasmas have better viewing angle than IPS.

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#16 Makari
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[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="JohnF111"]In a strange twist, Dell make the best IPS for a good price, mine's a Dell.yonikko

They pretty much always have had something that's in there, starting with the 2001FP back in... 01? 02? :) And OP, if you're doing graphic design I'd say don't get a TN at any cost - if nothing else, the color shifting should play merry hell with everything you try to do. 'Most people don't notice it' would be a bad idea when you're dealing with creating source content. I'd also second that you can't really go wrong with any of the 3, though I like the new + warranty of the Dell. What's their return policy like for dead pixels? It's been a while.

Yes I have been frustrated of the color shifting in TN panels that is why I'm looking for an IPS. I was just wondering if higher quality TN panels have better viewing angle than regular TN ones. I guess it is the same for every TN panels.

No, TN's won't. It's pretty much a part of what makes a TN panel a TN panel that it does the color shifting thing. Generally people won't notice, so it's tough for most to see/know about it.
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#17 yonikko
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[QUOTE="yonikko"]

[QUOTE="Makari"] They pretty much always have had something that's in there, starting with the 2001FP back in... 01? 02? :) And OP, if you're doing graphic design I'd say don't get a TN at any cost - if nothing else, the color shifting should play merry hell with everything you try to do. 'Most people don't notice it' would be a bad idea when you're dealing with creating source content. I'd also second that you can't really go wrong with any of the 3, though I like the new + warranty of the Dell. What's their return policy like for dead pixels? It's been a while.Makari

Yes I have been frustrated of the color shifting in TN panels that is why I'm looking for an IPS. I was just wondering if higher quality TN panels have better viewing angle than regular TN ones. I guess it is the same for every TN panels.

No, TN's won't. It's pretty much a part of what makes a TN panel a TN panel that it does the color shifting thing. Generally people won't notice, so it's tough for most to see/know about it.

Wait.. I thought TN panels are the ones that suffer from color shifting :o

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#18 XaosII
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[QUOTE="Makari"] No, TN's won't. It's pretty much a part of what makes a TN panel a TN panel that it does the color shifting thing. Generally people won't notice, so it's tough for most to see/know about it.yonikko

Wait.. I thought TN panels are the ones that suffer from color shifting :o

I can see the confusion in the ambiguity, but i think he meant "No, TN's wont have better vieing angles no matter the quality." Which is not entirely true, but for all practical purposes it pretty much is. Higher quality TN panels will allow a few more degrees of better angle before massive color shift... but that hardly matters when an entry level IPS panel will have nearly double the high quality TN one.

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#19 yonikko
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Thank you for the clarification. I just ordered the Dell Ultrasharp :)