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here i come with this build iv finish after 20 minute of thinking should be decent specially if you add two 90cfm around fan on the cpu cooler and OC around 3.6ghzit will still perform less then my PC For Gaming but it quite good
It a Good PC for the Price ratio but if you need a OS you rise the price by 105$ to let you know
Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
XXsKiTzOidXX
How 'bout that?
What about cooling? And I shouldn't go with 6 gigs of ram? I know I don't need it right now, but down the road...
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Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
Frenzyd109
How 'bout that?
980 is a waste for gaming. I know he/she doesn't care about price, but really, look at the quad cores for a gaming rig. hexcore CPUs are not as well optimized for games and they have more cache latency and whatnot, so they under-perform pretty much any quad.So go with the i7 930? My price range comes from me going to ibuypower and building one on their site. But I'm gonna go ahead and build myself. I hear its not that hard.
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Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
hitman6actual
980 is a waste for gaming. I know he/she doesn't care about price, but really, look at the quad cores for a gaming rig. hexcore CPUs are not as well optimized for games and they have more cache latency and whatnot, so they under-perform pretty much any quad.
Find some evidence to back that up and I'll change the buildhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/2960/13
Actually I already found some. It depends on the game but 4-8 frames more or less than the 975 is insignificant. So not only do you get similar performance to a quad core, you can utilize six cores for programs other than gaming. It also is pretty future proof
I REPEAT THIS IS STOCK MHZ you'r review
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You seriously think a COre i7 920 2.6ghz could match a higher clock core from stock ? Well You know you can OC COre i7 920 TO 4.1ghz Since D0 Stepping : And Core i7 930 to 4.3ghz : it Approved and tested in many OC thread
While the CORE I9 Extreme can oc only to 4.1ghz Without Tremendous Cooling power and the fps gain on very few game is so minimal that in no way you are supposes to buy that processor over MAX GPU power unless and even with that you'r better waiting the mainstream core i9 or SandyBridge which is said to be better then core i7 / core i9 was it a promise made by intel tic toc step
so it mean that the socket 2011 will oc to probabely as high as 4.0Ghz and higher and will Feature Better Performances but then i have to wait to see it from my own eye on benchmark such as Xbitslab & anandtech overclocking guide & Overclocker Forums
1. $750 is a fine range for building a gaming PC, especially if you already have a case and PSU. 2. No rig is going to last for 10+ years, that's absurd. Within 1 ~ 3 years the "high end" becomes midrange (HD 4870 to HD 5770), after 3 years an upgrade offers significant improvements. 3. In terms of performance-per-dollar, you are FAR better off spending $750 every 3 years than spending $2250 every 9 years. By year 5 of your rig you are going to seriously struggle to run current games well. By year 10, the idea that you're running much of anything is laughable.I hating to see people keep calling for help with very small budget invest into rigs. I just telling you if you buy these computer, range from 500 to 750 dollars. I have a question for you, would that rig keep for 10+ years? Just let you know.
Fireboy78
That is True cause Actually Every 2-3 Year the Graphic possiblity of a game nearly double which mean you need more gpu power : example 8800GT VS HD5870 ? and so on also once you purchase a chassis / Powersupply / DVD Rom / OS you'r likely to be good for until the OS is unsupported / lacking of exclusive feature
for PSU well as long you doesn't intend to use 1000W OF GPU ;) : the other part last until it break aside of chassis who is eternal but not the fan who are replaced easy
So in therm of performancesr per buck once you have build a PC : of let say ?300$-400 ? just for cpu / motherboard / ram well after that the only thing that matter is change the gpu for the incomign 5 year without problem to gain tremendous power as it won't really bottleneck ur system so let say you bough a phenom II X4 955 OC to 3.6ghz + 2x2GB DDR3 ?
so in 2014 that gaming power will be Still good all that will be need to be done is changing Video card to like example you have HD5850 ? you get : A HD7850 simple ;) no need of a whole thing to keep performing like a beast but if you can afford a cpu / mobo upgrade of 500-700$ you can do it too it up to you'r budget and if it worth it : benchmark are you friend on that aspect
Thanks for you input. No offence intended, but I did not ask is $500-750 is a good budget, but what parts I can get for that range. By all means I dont mind spending an extra hundred dollars if it means the performance I will get is a significant percentage higher. And no PC can keep for 10 years... not that it wont run in 10 years assuming i take care of it... its that hardware improves so rapidly that what ever i purchase will be redesigned to be twice as fast a year down the road. I'll change my budget around up there to $600-900.Skullsoldi3r
intel core 2 quad q9400 or oc the q660 you have now + an ati hd 5830 and your off to the races :P
no need to spend a whole lot of money.. your pc is still..overqualified
Hey skull these people are pretty smart...They are more than capable of answering 2 questions. So your welcome:roll:
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Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
Frenzyd109
980 is a waste for gaming. I know he/she doesn't care about price, but really, look at the quad cores for a gaming rig. hexcore CPUs are not as well optimized for games and they have more cache latency and whatnot, so they under-perform pretty much any quad.
Find some evidence to back that up and I'll change the buildYou don't really need evidence, just use common sense. I didn't say there was a huge difference, but quads do out perform hexcores. Games can't even utilize all 6 cores yet (anyone will tell you that) and hexcores, like I said, have more cache latency making them better for number crunching and workstation type deals than gaming.By the time games are using all six cores there will be way better hexcores out, so IMO hexcores are really a waste at this point. But like I said, the difference between hexcores and quads is almost negligible so if you wanna do workstation type stuff a hexcore might be better.http://www.anandtech.com/show/2960/13
Actually I already found some. It depends on the game but 4-8 frames more or less than the 975 is insignificant. So not only do you get similar performance to a quad core, you can utilize six cores for programs other than gaming. It also is pretty future proof
Frenzyd109
Not to but in on your topic...But I would like to see what they have to say for me as well. And my budget is 3 to 4 thousand. So go nuts.
XXsKiTzOidXX
If your budget is that high you might as well go 3D..... as in Nvidia 3D Vision. I have a 3D capable desktop and it is flat out awesome. Honestly its hard for me to go back to 2D gaming. GTA 4, BFBC2, NFS-Shift, Batman AA are all jaw dropping and stunning in 3D.
And believe it or not a lot of games support 3D. To get a good idea of which games work well in 3D see this threadhttp://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=90883(this is from Nvidia's official forum on 3D Vision).
The system requirements for Nvidia 3D Vision can be found here http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-requirements.html.
For Nvidia 3D vision basically you need an Nvidia GPU, Nvidia 3D Vision glasses and compatible monitor (see the link above to see which monitors are compatible).
I built a desktop specifically for 3D. I spent around $1400.... Phenom x4 955, GTX 260 sli (in hindsight I probably just should have got an 470 but i'm happy with the sli). Money very well spent imo. 2D gaming just seems lame now.
If your budget is that high you might as well go 3D..... as in Nvidia 3D Vision.xuimodA lot of people don't go with 3D because of reasons other than the budget. (eg. glasses) I probably shouldn't be bothered by something you probably didn't even mean, but I didn't like that phrasing.
I'm not really "on board" when it comes to 3D anyway. I want to give the tech time to evolve. Plus I'm hooking my rig up to a HDTV that is not 3D.
[QUOTE="xuimod"]If your budget is that high you might as well go 3D..... as in Nvidia 3D Vision.smc91352A lot of people don't go with 3D because of reasons other than the budget. (eg. glasses) I probably shouldn't be bothered by something you probably didn't even mean, but I didn't like that phrasing. Oh I definately mean it. I have 3D and its awesome. Try it out buy a monitor and glasses from a place that takes returns easily (Amazon comes to mind).
Oh I definately mean it. I have 3D and its awesome. Try it out buy a monitor and glasses from a place that takes returns easily (Amazon comes to mind).xuimodYou really think the reason people don't buy 3D is because they can't afford it? What about all the others that have bigger budgets than you and decide not to do it? I'm not saying its not good or great, I'm just saying that the budget has nothing to do with it if the person doesn't like it to begin with. And there are people that don't like it...
Meh, the tech is actually quite mature (the 3D tv's use the same general tech.... synchronized shutters). And a ton of games support 3D.... some better than others most that do do it pretty good. Here the games that I have that support 3D: GTA 4..... 9/10 BFBC2..... 9/10 Batman AA..... 9.5/10 NFS Shift..... 9.5/10 NFS Underground 2, Carbon, Most Wanted, Pro Street..... 9/10 Mass Effect 1 (downloading ME2 from Stream)..... 8/10 Battlefield 2..... 6.5/10 Dirt 2..... 8/10 UT3..... 8.5/10 COD4..... 8.5/10 COD-WAW...... 8.5/10 Again check out this thread (http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=90883) for the games that work well with Nvidia 3D.I'm not really "on board" when it comes to 3D anyway. I want to give the tech time to evolve. Plus I'm hooking my rig up to a HDTV that is not 3D.
XXsKiTzOidXX
Thats great man, but you seem to be missing a point to my post...I dont have a 3D tv and thats what I'm hooking my rig up to.
[QUOTE="xuimod"]Oh I definately mean it. I have 3D and its awesome. Try it out buy a monitor and glasses from a place that takes returns easily (Amazon comes to mind).smc91352You really think the reason people don't buy 3D is because they can't afford it? What about all the others that have bigger budgets than you and decide not to do it? I'm not saying its not good or great, I'm just saying that the budget has nothing to do with it if the person doesn't like it to begin with. And there are people that don't like it...
I think people don't go for 3D because they aren't educated about it...... mostly. They judge a system they never tried and they don't know that a lot of games support it.
But with that budget why not? Just because it uses glasses? Seriously....youre sitting in front of a computer not out in public. Makes no sense to me (and again, I have a 3D desktop).
I think people don't go for 3D because they aren't educated about it...... mostly. They judge a system they never tried and they don't know that a lot of games support it.I kinda already knew that was what you thought. There was a poll on OT not too long ago about 3D and the majority did not like it...so, budget may be one of the reasons people don't get it, but there are more for some.
But with that budget why not? Just because it uses glasses? Seriously....youre sitting in front of a computer not out in public. Makes no sense to me (and again, I have a 3D desktop).xuimod
I hating to see people keep calling for help with very small budget invest into rigs. I just telling you if you buy these computer, range from 500 to 750 dollars. I have a question for you, would that rig keep for 10+ years? Just let you know.
Fireboy78
No computer will last for 10 years. And his budget is more than enough to build an amazing computer. I have no idea what you're talking about.
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