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So I have always been into PC games just never had a top performance gaming PC. I want to keep the limit to 1000. Mainly I want diablo 3 to run flawlessly when it comes out as well as WoW and other top graphic games. Anyways, I have been doing some research and came up with this on newegg.com. The biggest confusion I have is i5 or i7, also which video card to get and is 12gb of ram excessive? I do not want to upgrade my computer for a while if possible. Please check this out and let me know if I need anything else? Am I forgetting anything? What is Liquid Cooling? If this is perfect for me? or other suggestions. I will be doing alot of multi tasking running a lot of programs and speed is essential. All help is needed P.S I only need a tower, do not need keyboard, mouse monitor, ect. Thank you so much! Intel Core i5-2500k sandy bridge 3.3ghz (3.7 turbo boost) - 219.99 MSI p67A-gd65 (b3) 1155 Intel P67 Motherboard -172.99 G Skill Ripjaws Series 12gb (3x4gb) 240 pin sdram ddr3 1333 (pc3 10666) - 99.99 Sapphire 100312 - 1gsr Radeon HD 6950 1gb 256-bit PCI Express - 242.99 Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM Sata 3.0gb/s 3.5' Internal Harddrive Bare Drive - 54.99 Sony Optiarc CD / DVD Burner SATA Model - 19.99 Cooler Master HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower - Case and Power Supply Combo -209.99 Cooler Master GX Series RS750-ACAAE3 750W ATX12v v2.31 Power Supply -

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WoW and Diablo 3 don't really have very good graphics, the computer you have set up will defiantly run them flawlessely and max out any current game, very nice build. The processor is very powerful, weaker than the i7 2600k for multitasking but i doubt you will notice any difference unless you are doing some truly intense tasks. Liquid cooling is what it sounds like, you use a liquid to cool off your PC, mostly some sort of oil. You shouldn't worry about that at all though, you have zero need of it.

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Thank you! I am so new to this building gaming computers lol. What about the ram? 12gb too much? Any suggestions to lower the price of the build? My main concern is that I do not want the computer to slow down while I have multiple programs running. Idk if it matters to mention but the monitor I have is 24 inch Samsung LED 1080p Display

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[QUOTE="staibilizer"]Thank you! I am so new to this building gaming computers lol. What about the ram? 12gb too much? Any suggestions to lower the price of the build? My main concern is that I do not want the computer to slow down while I have multiple programs running. Idk if it matters to mention but the monitor I have is 24 inch Samsung LED 1080p Display

For gaming 12gb RAM is WAY too much. Infact you'll actually notice a performance DROP on games having such RAM. Anything over 4GB is unnecessary for gaming and has a potential to cause FPS loss. Stick around 4-8.

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Thank you! I am so new to this building gaming computers lol. What about the ram? 12gb too much? Any suggestions to lower the price of the build? My main concern is that I do not want the computer to slow down while I have multiple programs running. Idk if it matters to mention but the monitor I have is 24 inch Samsung LED 1080p Displaystaibilizer

Change 12GB to 8GB for sure. Even 8GB is overkill for 99% of things, especially gaming.
I'd change that mobo to the MSI P67A G45 (B3) which is only $124 and has a $20 rebate.
I'd also switch the 6950 for a GTX 560 Ti. Cheaper and better. That should save you around $100 before the $20 rebate. Otherwise looks pretty good.

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lol wow and diablo are not top graphics games, most PCs can max wow without doing much (I dont know about cataclysm though I do know its still easy to max) and even though diablo has not even been released I can tell you for sure it wont be anywhere close to break any ground in the graphics department. like people here said, switch those 12gb for 8, 4gb is enough to max a bunch of games, but other games are very demanding when it comes to high resolutions...I really have not seen any pc maxing crysis or metro 2033 at 1920x1200 with 4gb ram. hell I even watched a 6850 crysis performance vid and the guy was maxing the game at 1080p and getting 45 FPS with 8gb ram, I have 4gb and I get 35-40 at 1280x1024 :lol:

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#7 gearsofhalogeek

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[QUOTE="RaseshX"][QUOTE="staibilizer"]Thank you! I am so new to this building gaming computers lol. What about the ram? 12gb too much? Any suggestions to lower the price of the build? My main concern is that I do not want the computer to slow down while I have multiple programs running. Idk if it matters to mention but the monitor I have is 24 inch Samsung LED 1080p Display

For gaming 12gb RAM is WAY too much. Infact you'll actually notice a performance DROP on games having such RAM. Anything over 4GB is unnecessary for gaming and has a potential to cause FPS loss. Stick around 4-8.

funny, my 12 gigs dont drop my performance at all.

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[QUOTE="RaseshX"][QUOTE="staibilizer"]Thank you! I am so new to this building gaming computers lol. What about the ram? 12gb too much? Any suggestions to lower the price of the build? My main concern is that I do not want the computer to slow down while I have multiple programs running. Idk if it matters to mention but the monitor I have is 24 inch Samsung LED 1080p Displaygearsofhalogeek

For gaming 12gb RAM is WAY too much. Infact you'll actually notice a performance DROP on games having such RAM. Anything over 4GB is unnecessary for gaming and has a potential to cause FPS loss. Stick around 4-8.

funny, my 12 gigs dont drop my performance at all.

its not alot BUT there is a drop from 8-12 and onward of 1fps or more

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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="RaseshX"] For gaming 12gb RAM is WAY too much. Infact you'll actually notice a performance DROP on games having such RAM. Anything over 4GB is unnecessary for gaming and has a potential to cause FPS loss. Stick around 4-8.ionusX

funny, my 12 gigs dont drop my performance at all.

its not alot BUT there is a drop from 8-12 and onward of 1fps or more

I think 7 fps is a lot lol

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#10 staibilizer

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Ok so switch to the gtx 560 ti....but which brand, i see there are alot on newegg, evga or palit....palit is cheaper by like 20 bucks....also what speed 8gb is right?.....and are all these parts now compatible (power supply? case?"....i was thinking to switching it to G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)????? if there are any other suggestions, please link from newegg you guys are being extremely helpful, thank you!

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#11 gravitygamer

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[QUOTE="staibilizer"]Ok so switch to the gtx 560 ti....but which brand, i see there are alot on newegg, evga or palit....palit is cheaper by like 20 bucks....also what speed 8gb is right?.....and are all these parts now compatible (power supply? case?"....i was thinking to switching it to G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)????? if there are any other suggestions, please link from newegg you guys are being extremely helpful, thank you!

you dont need to go from 6950 to 560ti..560ti only gives you a btter edge on physx..6950 does a really good job for gaming.

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#12 staibilizer

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Ok So I did a few changes, the price went down a bit....as you can see from the subtotal at the bottom....can I get some thoughts on this build? Remember Ill be playing pretty much all Blizzard games and running alot of programs. COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Palit NE5X56T01102-1140F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Sony Optiarc CD / DVD Burner Samsung Spintpoint 1TB 7200 RPM Subtotal: $989.90 Thoughts?! P.S im really curious about the brand of the video card? Evga Palit? I went with the Palit on this build bc it had a great combo price with the ram

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#13 SirAlfonzTan

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as far as i know, here in philippines, my friends palit 9800gt got dead, has lines all over the monitor

since the distro warrnty doesnt have 9800gt anymore, they gave him a GTX 260 216sp for free, quite a nice upgrade if u ask me

so, brand? i dont really care thats why my 2x 570 is inno3D brand, NOT EVGA, asus, XFX, msi, waste of money if u ask me,

oc capabilities are the same! lol!

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#14 SirAlfonzTan

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i just love to share this photo of my rig, its sooo pretty!!!

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#15 staibilizer

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So any last suggestions about this build? I feel like this will do very will with any game i throw at it. Especially the blizzard games I mainly play. Final Thoughts suggestions? Tricks to make it cheaper lol COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Compucase Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Palit NE5X56T01102-1140F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Sony Optiarc CD / DVD Burner Samsung Spintpoint 1TB 7200 RPM Subtotal: $989.90

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#16 SirAlfonzTan

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change the 560 to 6950

then unlock your 6950 to 6970

same price, much much better performance

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#17 staibilizer

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is it difficult to unlock the 6950 to 6970? and will it be safe to do that? temps wont get too high? i do not have liquid cooling or anything

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You should def look into which 6950's can be unlocked. Many now cannot.

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There is no guarantee to be able to unlock an unlockable 6950 and quite a few people have been running into problems some even have their cards dead.

There really isnt a substantial performance difference between a 6950 running at 6970 clocks and a 6970, just overclock the 6950 and you are good. However 560 Ti seems a better option but you should go with the MSI twin frozr version instead.

I would not get that power supply, get a corsair 750W and downgrade to the HAF 922 if need be.

You cant really cut down on costs without sacrificing performance and quality, you have chosen most of the parts well.

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#20 mastershake575

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If your running one card this is enough http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371016and this case is $90 cheaper but will still have 3 fans pre installed with the option to add more http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147153This will cut the cost to around the mid $800 range

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#21 staibilizer

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that power supply is only 550w? I thought I need around 750w? and why the twin frozr? also, when you type msi gtx 560ti twin frozr into newegg, there are like 5 models, all within 30-40 of each other? which one? I read that the cooler master HAF 912 is a very good case and will work phenominally for 59.99 opposed to the 139.99 932 i have in my build.... thoughts? will it really make a performance difference? anything i cant upgrade to down the line?

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#22 gravitygamer

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the twin frozr is going to keep the card really cool compared to the stock fan.

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#23 staibilizer

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all these decisions are killing me....keep the suggestions coming please!! you have all been so helpful

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Go with this card, case closed you need not think anymore about it.

And take a look at the HAF 922, it saves a bit of $ from the 932 and doesnt compromise too many things unlike the 912.

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#25 staibilizer

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Go with this card, case closed you need not think anymore about it.
And take a look at the HAF 922, it saves a bit of $ from the 932 and doesnt compromise too many things unlike the 912.
Gambler_3

i found a pretty sweet combo deal.... its COOLER MASTER GX Series RS750-ACAAE3-US 750W ATX12V v2.31 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply and COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case for 159.99 Good power supply? will suffice? good case? better or worse then the 922? good price?

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The case is worse than the 922 but it's still a very good case especially if you dont mind non-switchable LED's.

As I said I wouldnt buy that PSU because it is NOT good, no combo deal makes it a good deal with that PSU.

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#27 staibilizer

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The case is worse than the 922 but it's still a very good case especially if you dont mind non-switchable LED's.
As I said I wouldnt buy that PSU because it is NOT good, no combo deal makes it a good deal with that PSU.
Gambler_3

Ok thanks! Can you recommend a good 750w PSU? Link to newegg please

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#28 staibilizer

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021 hows this?

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Ya that's very good.

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#30 staibilizer

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thank you gambler and everyone who helped me out.... this is what I will be going with after all this....final comments are welcome! THANK YOU EVERYONE! Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ... Palit NE5X56T01142-1041F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Windows 7

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will this PC be able to run battlefield 3 and skyrim at decent settings, i know theyre not out yet, but what do you guys think? im looking to build a gaming PC in the next few months and that set up seems like a great price. ive only done minimal research so far and dont know a whole lot about PCs for gaming

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#32 Stunneronureyez

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[QUOTE="gearsofhalogeek"][QUOTE="RaseshX"] For gaming 12gb RAM is WAY too much. Infact you'll actually notice a performance DROP on games having such RAM. Anything over 4GB is unnecessary for gaming and has a potential to cause FPS loss. Stick around 4-8.ionusX

funny, my 12 gigs dont drop my performance at all.

its not alot BUT there is a drop from 8-12 and onward of 1fps or more

Why would it cause a drop?

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[QUOTE="staibilizer"]thank you gambler and everyone who helped me out.... this is what I will be going with after all this....final comments are welcome! THANK YOU EVERYONE! Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ... Palit NE5X56T01142-1041F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Windows 7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104173&cm_re=hyperx_8gb_1600-_-20-104-173-_-Product i've been recommending this RAM a lot, i've had good experience with it, plus it will save u a few dollars...kingston hyperx is a good brand as well

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#34 staibilizer

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This is my first post with my new build.....just build it last night Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power ... Palit NE5X56T01142-1041F GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card ADATA XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model AX3U1600GC4G9-DG2 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K MSI P67A-G45 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard Windows 7 The computer is blazing fast.....case is amazing, graphics card is beast.....everything runs at 25-32 C .....will be purchasing a 2 TB and using the 1 TB as a ghost backup once i put everything I need on this.....Amazing build, total price was around 900-1000....thanks again everyone!

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Congrats, you have a very enviable build there. :)

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instead of 12gb ram get 6gb n spend that extra money saved to get a 2600k instead of a 2500k.. sorted

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#37 robertoenrique

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Please upload some pics! Gratz on your build.

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#38 blaznwiipspman1

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get a 6950 2gb, its faster than the 560ti, there are no questions about it. The only reason you get a 560ti is if you really want physx or you find a really good deal on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372

it also comes with a free game, Dirt 3

nvm looks like you already bought everything :P

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