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#1 shane_orija
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okay i went to buy a 9800 gt and came to know my psu was not suficient (only 300W ), now i am considering the 9600gt will it be able to play these games at 1024x768 high settings with AA and AF- at 30 fps -

mass effect

crysis

assassin's creed

saints row 2

gears of war

and upcoming games like mass effect 2,bioshock 2,dragon age,borderlands

PS I HAVE TO BUY IT BEFORE SUNDAY

Thanks for reading

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#2 gamerking178
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No (PSU to weak), and yes to playing those games on high @ 1024x768

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#3 sihunt
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Hi I don't know much about the 9600GT but it seems like a

good card for 1024X768 resolution. I found a low power version

here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130485

Over at Tom's Hardware look at the graphic charts for 3rd quarter 2008.

Here is a sample over at Tom's: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-q3-2008/Assassins-Creed-v1.02,735.html

There are some newer cards out but they might require a 450W power supply.

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#4 shane_orija
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2) what PSU will i need?
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#5 metaltoiletry
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What retailer are you planning on buying from? This will help in showing you what to get.

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#6 shane_orija
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maybe palit or gigabyte
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#7 neatfeatguy
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2) what PSU will i need?shane_orija

Minimum PSUs you should look into (these are just suggestions):

Antec 430W - $59.99

Rosewill 500W - $49.99

Thermaltake 500W - $59.99

(ones listed below are PSUs you should look more towards getting)

Antec 500W - $69.99

Corsair 450W - $74.99

PC Power & Cooling 500W - $74.99

OCZ 500W - $69.99

The first three I listed would be more then enough to run a 9600GT card and might be alright with running a 9800GT. The last 4 listed will for certain run either card.

The ones I listed are just suggestions, there are other brands out there. You want to look for a PSU around 450W that can provide at least 28amps on the +12v rail(s) in order to handle these low-mid ranged video cards.

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#8 shane_orija
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thanks.........anyway will i be able to play the games on the settings i mentioned above??
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thanks.........anyway will i be able to play the games on the settings i mentioned above??shane_orija
yes ,and maybe even on higher resolutions. but no AA for crysis. Not sure though.
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#10 zaku101
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I've poped a 9600GT overclocked in my friends no brand 300W powersupply and its working with no issues.

The max the card hits is 200W

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9600-gt,1780-18.html

I would say it would run on your powersupply no problem at all.

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I've poped a 9600GT overclocked in my friends no brand 300W powersupply and its working with no issues.

The max the card hits is 200W

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-9600-gt,1780-18.html

I would say it would run on your powersupply no problem at all.

zaku101

Just because it works at first, or even for a while, does not mean it is a good thing to do. Also, watts does not mean much when talking about PSU's. A good quality 300w PSU (like this) could run a 9600GT with no issues. Might be closer than I like, but it would run it.

Then you have the crappy 300w PSU (like this) that can only put out 13a on the 12v rail (156w). While that Seasonic listed earlier can push 24a on the 12v rail (288w). See how big of a difference there is between 2 units that are the "same" if all you look at is total watts.

OP: I would advise you get a decent PSU with a card upgrade. While usually if the PSU cannot handle the load, the only issue will be crashes and the PSU dieing, but there is always the chance of it taking components with it.

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#12 shane_orija
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@opamando -thanks for ur advice i got 19 A on my 12V rail,anyway i talked to a lot of dealers and all of them said it would run fine.+i dont wanna invest on a psu sause i'm a student right now and making money is kinda difficult :( , PS if more guys could confirm that this card'll be able to run games on high settings at 1024x768 thanks
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#13 shane_orija
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lol time's running out if someone could clarify things for me.......fast
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At 1024x768 you should be able to run most games at medium/high to high settings. You might struggle with Crysis/Crysis Warhead to run it on high and maybe a little with Far Cry 2. Other then that, that resolution isn't very demanding on GPUs, so the 9600GT should do fairly well for you.
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#15 zaku101
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I own a 9600GT and it will max every game for you. Crysis will probably play with 25-40 fps on high settings if it's all patched up.

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#16 Shootn
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@opamando -thanks for ur advice i got 19 A on my 12V rail,anyway i talked to a lot of dealers and all of them said it would run fine.+i dont wanna invest on a psu sause i'm a student right now and making money is kinda difficult :( , PS if more guys could confirm that this card'll be able to run games on high settings at 1024x768 thanksshane_orija

Considering i played games on a 9800 gt which is close to the same on 1280x1024 on high and it played many games i am certain yours will play it at 1024x768. One other thing that could be a problem is a cpu. If you don't have a decent cpu that could cause some fps loss.

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#17 shane_orija
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[QUOTE="shane_orija"]@opamando -thanks for ur advice i got 19 A on my 12V rail,anyway i talked to a lot of dealers and all of them said it would run fine.+i dont wanna invest on a psu sause i'm a student right now and making money is kinda difficult :( , PS if more guys could confirm that this card'll be able to run games on high settings at 1024x768 thanksShootn

Considering i played games on a 9800 gt which is close to the same on 1280x1024 on high and it played many games i am certain yours will play it at 1024x768. One other thing that could be a problem is a cpu. If you don't have a decent cpu that could cause some fps loss.

well, i've got intel dual core 2.8 ghz
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i wouldnt buy a 500 watt psu go wit 700 so its future proof

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#19 shane_orija
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i wouldnt buy a 500 watt psu go wit 700 so its future proof

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actually i'm keeping my 300w psu ,the 9600gt should work fineon it since it needs min. 200w
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Minimum PSU Wattage you should go for is 430W. Minimum.
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#21 -CheeseEater-
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[QUOTE="shane_orija"][QUOTE="carter15kd5"]

i wouldnt buy a 500 watt psu go wit 700 so its future proof

actually i'm keeping my 300w psu ,the 9600gt should work fineon it since it needs min. 200w

Well, if you want to power the GPU on it's own, and nothing else in the PC, then yes, 200W's will power a Graphic Card of such just fine! :D
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#22 Mr_Deja_Vu
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The Psu is the first thing you should upgrade.Even if it runs for awhile, when the psu goes it might take out your card and the entire PC with it.It's definitely not worth the risk.As for the 9600 gt, it should run most games comfortably at a resolution of 1024x768 as that is quite a low resolution.You'll be able to max out some games like Devil may cry 4 which is amazingly well optimized, that is to say it depends on the game as well.

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#23 neatfeatguy
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[QUOTE="carter15kd5"]

i wouldnt buy a 500 watt psu go wit 700 so its future proof

shane_orija

actually i'm keeping my 300w psu ,the 9600gt should work fineon it since it needs min. 200w

So let's say that your PSU, can actually provide a full 300W under full load and you happen to push your GPU to full load (so that's 200W there). Now you have 100W left to run the rest of your computer?? You're going to fry your PSU sooner then you'd like to think. Things might run fine for a bit, but eventually either the PSU will crap out and just that will need replacing....

OR

The PSU will die a magnificent death; taking out other things connected to it: GPU, MB, CPU, RAM, DVD/CD drive, HDD....

So, you either invest a good $40-60 on a better PSU or risk the chance of ruining up to $400-600 (however much your PC may be worth) worth of other parts in your computer. Obviously the choice is yours - the good folk here on the forums are just trying to save you the headaches you might be facing.

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#24 shane_orija
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checked youtube turns out 9600 gt an run every gamehigh full AA&AF (even Crysis) + i think i'l rethink about upgrading my psu
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#25 shane_orija
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okay is there any truth in this article ,according it i could make do with even a 250w psu http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3413
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#26 shane_orija
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link

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3413

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#27 shane_orija
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link

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=3413

shane_orija

anyone wanna give their opinion for the info give in the link?

also will my intel dual core 2.8 ghz bottleneck it :cry: ?

got 2gb ram

+ which one is better Palit or Zotac?

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#28 shane_orija
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^bump^ lol help somebody i'm going to buy the card tomorrow !!!!
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#29 shane_orija
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c'mon somebodyyyyy !!!
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#30 Shootn
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have you bought it.

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#31 V4LENT1NE
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9600GT with Crysis at High/Full AA and AF, hell no, the framerate would be terrible. Maybe at super low res, but at a decent res it would slow down like crazy. Especially with 2GB of RAM.
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#32 teddyrob
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9600GT is good enough for crysis 1024x768 no AAand all high with a decent processor. Other games you can put settings on a good deal higher with AA on.

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#33 teddyrob
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checked youtube turns out 9600 gt an run every gamehigh full AA&AF (even Crysis)

shane_orija

Every game just about but not Crysis with full AA. At 1024x768 and no AA with high settings is good to go.

A 9800GT isn't going to do much better though. I had 8800GT and the 9600GT and that could only manage the same as the 9600GT settings.

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#34 teddyrob
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+ which one is better Palit or Zotac?

shane_orija

Palit is better.

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#35 Shootn
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I had got a zotac one and it was good until one day when i was switching mobos. I think my used mobo had blew it tho. But i registered my videocard on their website after 3 months of not doing it. Then asked if they could fix and they did it right away. Not sure about palitt tho.