Need opinion for my soon new build PC

Hi I need some advice or opinion to a soon new build Mini PC. I’m looking to build a small PC that I can game and work. I want it to be at least if not better than Xbox series X. I have been a console gamers for a while but now is a great time to get back to the PC since more and more console games are heading to PC. Here are my list.

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D

MSI MPG B5501 gaming edge Max wi fi mini itx

RTX 3060TI ( other cards are out of budget)

the rest are 850w power supply, 32 gbs DDR4 3600 rams and 1 to 2 tbs M.2 SSD.

Anything I can change to make it better without getting more expensive or this is fair enough to run games in good setting? Thank you for any tips.

@ni6htmare01: What is your target resolution and refresh rate? 5800X3D is an enthusiast CPU and is not cheap. It is mainly beneficial for pushing very high frame rates when paired with a high end GPU. 3060 Ti is a mid-range GPU. 32GB RAM is also unnecessary for gaming. You could drop down to 16GB RAM and Ryzen 5700X CPU and put that money towards a better GPU like a 3070 Ti or even 3080. That would make it a much better gaming rig.

@BassMan: I don't think a 3070 or 3080 would fit in a mini itx case, but I agree with all your other advice. The 850w power supply is also probably overkill for this build. Could get away with 600w on a 3060 system. 700w if you want to play it really safe.

They can fit. There are several mini ITX or SFF cases that can accommodate a 3080. Of course some models are bigger than others.

@BassMan: I want more rams and better cpu for working purposes beside gaming since now a day I have to work at home way more than at office.

My target is 1440P or maybe 4K and 60fps. If possible. Also like i said something equal to or better than xbox series x when gaming. Will ryzen 5900 better than 5800x3D

So with everything 600 to 700w is more than enough?

I would say a Ryzen 5900x would be a better buy in the long run than the 5800x3d because of the fact that it has 50% more cores and threads. We are seeing more games are starting the leverage as many cores and threads you have available. Also depending on what your doing for productivity tasks typically 5900x outclasses the 5800x3d.

Take Cyberpunk as an example of a game leveraging more threads, while 5900x only edged out a 5800x3d by a few frames it was the 1% low framerate that shows 5900x being 15% faster. Now you will see on average where the 5800x3d is upto ~10% faster with most titles now, but that is because of the extra cache and that those games do not leverage all the other cores/threads of the 5900x.

Another option is forget the 5800x3d and or 5900x and get a regular Ryzen 5800x and upgrade that 3060ti to a 3070 especially if you plan on playing at 1440p-4k. Also the price difference between a 750w and 850w psu is under $20 its better to have headroom for longer lifespan and having more upgrade options later.

dont buy yet. The new GPUs are around the corner. Go with the intel i7 12900k for the CPU. For the GPU, grab whichever is decent thats coming out in a few months or so.

If you're going to go for something like a geforce 3060 or a radeon 6700xt, make sure you buy a powersupply thats rated for 3x the power draw. For example, the 3080ti is rated for 350 Watts, but because of transient energy spikes, which push energy draw to 2x that amount, this causes the computer to crash. So be sure to grab a decent power supply with a 3x headroom. Since the 3060ti has a power draw of 200 watt, make sure to grab a 750watt or even a 800 watt power supply. Make sure its a good brand, that can handle instantaneous spikes too.

Thanks for the tips guys. Very very useful . I definitely learn alot of new things here. Haven't build a new PC for more than a decade so my knowledge and infos are all outdated. Thanks

Your still going to have a hard time garbing any of the new 40 series or 7000 series at launch...... Your going to see shortages for months going into early 2023. Because if these cards are said to be powerhouses, the people who couldn't upgrade before or the ones who waited and or hard core miners will grab them if their 1.5-2x faster than previous generations, let alone we will have to fight the bots and scalpers as well. The power spikes are not a real issue for 3070's or lower its the 3080/3090's that see those big spikes. You can minimize those spikes by limiting your max fps and or limit power/undervolting.

I agree, but the situation will be much better than the 3000/6000 mess of 2020-2022. Crypto is literally in the gutter right now and its going to stay that way because of inflation and high interest rates. If the current environment continues, he shouldn't have much problems securing a 4070, a 7700xt or anything he wants really.

As for the power spikes, its not going to be solved. Better grab the BEST power supply you can, thats my recommendation. Go for a gold or platinum rated psu with tons of wattage, and from a good brand manufacturer.

A 3060 Ti is not going to be good for 4K/60fps unless you are playing potato games. It will be decent for 1440p/60fps. Honestly, if you are only targeting 60fps, you are not going to need a powerful CPU regardless of resolution. 5800X3D is overkill and a waste of money. You don't need anything more than a 5700X which will be good for gaming and productivity. Again, 32GB will be a waste unless you know for sure your work makes use of more than 16GB. Same goes for adding more CPU cores with a 5900X. Unless you know for sure your work will benefit from it, there is no point in wasting money on more cores.

It is always good to get a high wattage power supply and have some headroom for future upgrades. I use a 850W with my 5950X and 3080.

Oh I’m sorry I have 1 more question forgot to ask. I’m going to have (most likely) 1 tb M.2 SSD for OS and programmed and another regular 3.5 internal HDD for storage. Will it have any issues running game from the storage drive or is not ideal at all. Thank.

HDD are not ideal for gaming anymore. They are good for file storage like movies, music, etc., but they are not good for loading games quickly or transferring files quickly. Even a SATA SSD is far superior to a HDD.

@BassMan: I see. Thank you, so is 1TB M.2 enough or 2 TB is more ideal?

@ni6htmare01: 2TB is more ideal. Game installs are very big these days.

32gb is cheap enough nowadays, so why not get it. I've seen a few games use more than 10gb by themselves. Now for storage if its older game a normal HDD will work but in this day and age there is no need to suffer with loading times. The size of the SSD depends on your need. But you can pick up a 2tb 2.5" sata ssd for like $140 or a 2tb m.2 for like $160

@04dcarraher: $160 for 2tb M.2? Which brand? I’ll get one now Lol. Thank.

@ni6htmare01:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#A=1900000000000,20000000000000&t=0&sort=price&page=1

@BassMan: great! Thanks. I under the impression that it cost high $200. This is good news to me.

@ni6htmare01: Keep in mind that M.2 is just the interface/connector. Make sure that it is also NVMe if you want the faster speeds.

@BassMan: thanks for all the tips. Extremely helpful here.

@ni6htmare01: You're welcome. You can use the 'PC Builder' on the PC Part Picker site to spec out your whole build. It will show you the best prices for each component.

@ni6htmare01: As others have said, do the following:

• Save yourself ~200 USD by going with a different CPU. That one is overkill.
• 16 GB memory is plenty; 32 GB might be utilized a fraction of the time, cost isn't worth it imo. If you find a good deal though get 32 GB. Future-proofing is nice.
• A standard SSD (SATA 6 GB/s) might be fine. Your PC booting up in 5 seconds or 10 seconds, you can decide of the cost difference is worth it. Loading times are also fine on a standard SATA, but better on M.2 NVMe. Honestly I think an M.2 NVMe is a luxury and a regular SSD is fine.
  • Look into Sabrent for M.2 NVMe they're cheap and good! Avoid Samsung, they're overpriced IMO
• It's nice to future proof on PSU by going higher, but 850 is overkill for a mini PC with a mid-range card. Can probably get away with 650-750W PSU. Might save you some money.

If your money is already earmarked, you can probably save some money then get an RTX 3070 with the savings (or pocket the money you save).

Yeah and my last build I went with 1TB and regretted it.

Two or three "AAA" games will take up a third of that hard drive.

@ni6htmare01: Have you thought about which mini ITX case you're going to use for that build?

Due to limited space I have to go with mini ITX so this case I found in Amazon has the perfect size.

SilverStone Technology SUGO 16 Black Mini-ITX Small Form Factor case with All Steel Construction, SST-SG16B

@ni6htmare01: I would suggest you to go small but also with a window? if you're already spending that much of money it's better to show off and stare at that box all day :D

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Hello, i would like to have you guys opinion about the computer i'm going to buy (i will be building myself hardware) but i'm clueless about which parts to pick so here we go!

• GPU: GeForce RTX 4070
• MOBA: Gaming B550-PLUS AMD
• CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X
• RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE LPX DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz
• SSD: SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe Gen 4 Gaming M.2
• CASE: Phanteks (PH-EC360ATG_DBK02) Eclipse G360A
• POWER SUPPLY: Corsair RMX Series (2021), RM750x

I mostly will use my computer for gaming and some photoshop/illustrator and it's enough blender

Thank you.

@prigowasu: This right here would make a pretty good build, but I do have one thing. You might want to consider a newer gen MOBO and GPU from the Ryzen 7000 generation. This will give your PC more upgrade options in the future, having an AM5 socket, and DDR5 RAM. Would be more expensive, but getting a Ryzen 5 instead of 7 could help without hurting performance much for most tasks.

Just something to consider.