Need some tips about overclocking please...

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#1 NOMAD_78
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I leave the pc on for days...does overclocking my cpu and leaving the pc turned on for such a long time damages my cpu and dec its life expectancy???

also is Cooler Master Hyper TX3a good cpu cooler to overclock my cpu to 3.2 ghz????

please give me your suggestions about the cooler the volt and everything...

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#2 commander
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depends how much you will overclock. I wouldn't overclock past 2.8 ghz.
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#3 C_Rule
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depends how much you will overclock. I wouldn't overclock past 2.8 ghz. evildead6789
2.8GHz? That CPU should go to 3.4GHz without any problems. OP, that is a decent cooler, I think it also supports dual fan, so you may want to add another to improve it a bit.
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#4 commander
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overclocking always increases instability because you use the fsb to overclock, so you're overclocking the whole motherboard. Recommending such a high overclock to someone that doesn't have any experience is a bad idea
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#5 James161324
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I core 2 quad is a pretty rough cpu to overclock. It usuallly caps at 3.4-3.6 besides of the volts it needs. You should be able to get it to 3.00 on stock volts, but after that it becomes harder as voltage jumps alot.

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Providing your CPU is the latest G0 revision you should be able to go to 3Ghz without any voltage changes.

If you want you can go to 3.4Ghz with good cooling but it will require a cpu voltage increase.

Just so you know unless you go CRAZY with CPU voltage you wont damage the CPU. Remember, if it gets too hot then Intel thermal monitor would kick in and auto-drop the voltage to avoid any damage.

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doesn't changed the fact if you up the bus speed like that , you're whole motherboard is overclocked. I always find a overclocked pc working less stable no matter how much tweaks you do. A small overclock though is not noticable and you still feel the speed if you go from 2,4 to 2,8 ghz

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doesn't changed the fact if you up the bus speed like that , you're whole motherboard is overclocked. I always find a overclocked pc working less stable no matter how much tweaks you do. A small overclock though is not noticable and you still feel the speed if you go from 2,4 to 2,8 ghz

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i can go to 2.8 with stock cooling and voltage

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doesn't changed the fact if you up the bus speed like that , you're whole motherboard is overclocked. I always find a overclocked pc working less stable no matter how much tweaks you do. A small overclock though is not noticable and you still feel the speed if you go from 2,4 to 2,8 ghz

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so my i7920 at 4.2 is unstable?? i highly doubt it ,also you aren't going to notice a 400mhz difference either.... this is why they made (Stability test programs) such as prime 95/Linpack/occt/interburn test and there are others.

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doesn't changed the fact if you up the bus speed like that , you're whole motherboard is overclocked. I always find a overclocked pc working less stable no matter how much tweaks you do. A small overclock though is not noticable and you still feel the speed if you go from 2,4 to 2,8 ghz

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So what your saying is Intel are all a bunch of idiots who know nothing and just created the Sandy Bridge K series for no other reason than to damage your CPU?

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I think he's talking about overclocking with FSB, not multiplier. Not sure, though.
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#12 GTR12
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I think he's talking about overclocking with FSB, not multiplier. Not sure, though.C_Rule

Well ok, even if it is FSB, all those professional overclockers, who get sponsered by Gigabyte, ASUS are all stupid because they will damage the CPU even when they have nitrogen cooling?

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]I think he's talking about overclocking with FSB, not multiplier. Not sure, though.GTR12

Well ok, even if it is FSB, all those professional overclockers, who get sponsered by Gigabyte, ASUS are all stupid because they will damage the CPU even when they have nitrogen cooling?

Technically they arent damaging it by much, but even with the cooling, you can expect the life of the CPU to be shortened by a reasonable amount, hence you dont see PC's with 5+GHZ overclocks being used much often, as it would require alot to just keep it running and buying nitrogen etc, Large Overclocks are meant for a few hours, to run some benchies, and basically bragging rights, but I guarantee you if a PC was left with a mega OC, the CPU would burn out within a year, as well as the motherboard causing a bunch of stability issues because a OC is heavily dependent on the mobo's fsb. It would be smart to look into better cooling for the mobo as well. You can push a large OC like I did by turning on in AMD's case quiet n cool so the CPU is actually downlocked to like 1-2.4ghz half the time and the multiplier and voltage get raised when the function senses a load.
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I leave the pc on for days...does overclocking my cpu and leaving the pc turned on for such a long time damages my cpu and dec its life expectancy???

also is Cooler Master Hyper TX3a good cpu cooler to overclock my cpu to 3.2 ghz????

please give me your suggestions about the cooler the volt and everything...

NOMAD_78

Basically a CPU won't last forever, even running at low clocks the use damage it over time, higher clocks and higher voltage will do the damage faster, but modern CPUs seem to be degrading pretty slowly, so doing some overclock is usually not a problem when upgrade regularly anyway.

You should be fine, but do make sure that you keep the automatic downclock feature enabled, that really saves you both some power and CPU-life if the computer is idling for long periods of time.

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#15 GTR12
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Technically they arent damaging it by much, but even with the cooling, you can expect the life of the CPU to be shortened by a reasonable amount, hence you dont see PC's with 5+GHZ overclocks being used much often, as it would require alot to just keep it running and buying nitrogen etc, Large Overclocks are meant for a few hours, to run some benchies, and basically bragging rights, but I guarantee you if a PC was left with a mega OC, the CPU would burn out within a year, as well as the motherboard causing a bunch of stability issues because a OC is heavily dependent on the mobo's fsb. It would be smart to look into better cooling for the mobo as well. You can push a large OC like I did by turning on in AMD's case quiet n cool so the CPU is actually downlocked to like 1-2.4ghz half the time and the multiplier and voltage get raised when the function senses a load.brownwhale

Tell that to my P3 which has been at 2.2Ghz since 2001, it started at 1.4Ghz.

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]I think he's talking about overclocking with FSB, not multiplier. Not sure, though.GTR12

Well ok, even if it is FSB, all those professional overclockers, who get sponsered by Gigabyte, ASUS are all stupid because they will damage the CPU even when they have nitrogen cooling?

Yes i was talking about fsb, and not multiplier. Multiplier is whole different story. the multiplier is locked on his cpu so fsb is the only way to go.

You're also forgetting that the original poster doesn't have i5 and i7. But a quad s775.

And you're also forgetting that the original poster doesn't know a lot about overclocking. So as i was saying a small overclock could be advisable a high one would be a bad idea in this scenario.

So you'retaking the issue out of context

And you can discuss all you want even a non-overclocked system has stability issues with everything that 's going on and i'm not talking about crashes or blue screens here. Windows is an semi-open operating and crashes with software do occur.

Overclocking your pc makes this worse. I'm not a professional overclocker but i know a thing or two about these things. Your motherboard is an important player. The more settings you can change the more stable overclock you can reach.I only could change the ram speed, pci speed , fsb. If i adjust the pci and ram with an overclocked fsb. I still have the feeling with no overclock the system runs sweeter allthough slower. I thinkyour system is more stableif your motherboard runs everywhere on the same speed otherwise the data comes from one segment into the other in all different speeds.

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#17 GTR12
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Yes i was talking about fsb, and not multiplier. Multiplier is whole different story. the multiplier is locked on his cpu so fsb is the only way to go.

You're also forgetting that the original poster doesn't have i5 and i7. But a quad s775.

And you're also forgetting that the original poster doesn't know a lot about overclocking. So as i was saying a small overclock could be advisable a high one would be a bad idea in this scenario.

So you'retaking the issue out of context

And you can discuss all you want even a non-overclocked system has stability issues with everything that 's going on and i'm not talking about crashes or blue screens here. Windows is an semi-open operating and crashes with software do occur.

Overclocking your pc makes this worse. I'm not a professional overclocker but i know a thing or two about these things. Your motherboard is an important player. The more settings you can change the more stable overclock you can reach.I only could change the ram speed, pci speed , fsb. If i adjust the pci and ram with an overclocked fsb. I still have the feeling with no overclock the system runs sweeter allthough slower. I thinkyour system is more stableif your motherboard runs everywhere on the same speed otherwise the data comes from one segment into the other in all different speeds.

evildead6789

The TC has a great mobo and a CPU, I should know, I have the same CPU and a P35 chipset, he/she has the P43. I didn't know alot about overclocking either, just reading a few guides goes a long way into learning.

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#18 commander
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what have you done with ram speed , voltage, pci speed and did you change other stuff What's the fsb x multi now? on 3.4 ghz
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#19 GTR12
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what have you done with ram speed , voltage, pci speed and did you change other stuff What's the fsb x multi now? on 3.4 ghzevildead6789

I would post a link to CPU-Z validation but GS is being annoying right now with HTML stuff.

RAM @ 683Mhz

Voltage @ 1.55 (I know this is really high, but it runs cool)

PCI is weird, it says 900xxx, GPU is fine though, running at 50Mhz 101Mhz and 135Mhz (It downclocks itself)

FSB is at 380 with a multiplyer at 9.

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#20 C_Rule
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You guys think ~450 FSB would be too high?

I'm currently at 425x8 and this has given me no problems at all. I can add .5 to my multiplier, but I don't have it at the moment because I can't without taking my voltage higher and I won't be taking the voltage higher until i get my new cooler (it's on its way).

I'm not exactly sure what my voltage is, as my PC is spread out across a bench at the moment, so I can't check, but it's one increment above stock, I think it's 1.23 or 1.25.

When I get my new cooler, I'll up the volts and add the .5 to the multiplier to give me 3.6GHz, but I may also up the FSB to 447 to get me 3.8GHz.

Think that would cause problems?

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#21 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

doesn't changed the fact if you up the bus speed like that , you're whole motherboard is overclocked. I always find a overclocked pc working less stable no matter how much tweaks you do. A small overclock though is not noticable and you still feel the speed if you go from 2,4 to 2,8 ghz

GTR12

So what your saying is Intel are all a bunch of idiots who know nothing and just created the Sandy Bridge K series for no other reason than to damage your CPU?

Actually you overclock the K sandy bridge CPU's via their turbo boost multiplier so your not overclocking the BUS ;)
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#22 commander
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i wasn't talking about the sandy bridge smartass read the posts!
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#23 C_Rule
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Now, now, let's not get all cranky.