Negative points/aspects of Mafia 2

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#1 iamidea
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These are some of the negative points (cons) in Mafia II as portrayed in a few video game blogs and previews even before its release…

1. Driving is a mini-map game.

We all know that Empire city – the fictional city of Mafia II looks beautiful and well planned... But you are not provided with much opportunity of sight-seeing while driving in missions..because the mini-map is always on and you just get used to watch the mini-map only for driving from destination A to B..Further, there is no GPS like in GTA 4 (you can't expect one!).

2. Cops are more troublesome.

Cops are more punitive in Mafia 2 even for petty offences like overspeeding and running over red lights, etc. So you can't play with leisure…

3. Small map.

Some have pointed out that the map is very detailed but looks small in terms of size…

4. No country-side

Adding to that, there are no country side areas which were even included in Mafia 1. (In fact, the most memorable moments in Mafia 1 includes entering the country side after leaving the hustle-bustles of city life)

5. No blindfire.

Cover system is included in Mafia 2…But you cannot blindfire at your opponents during cover (which other contemporary games allow)

6. No Day-Night cycles.

No day-night cycles...The mission dictates the time… It may add to the realism. But the big question of freedom???

7. No swapping between songs.

Great songs belonging to the era…right…but you cannot change between the songs... Another restraint to your freedom.

8. Uncanny valley.

The trailers and the cut-scenes released so far showed high detailed characters and environments…But some felt that some parts in the facial motion of the characters do not move well with others.. In other words, the developers have also fallen into the infamous 'Uncanny Valley' while trying to create photo realistic characters.

9. Vulgarity.

Playboy collections with nude models in Mafia II…nice thought and additions..But who are ready to open the nude picture in your living room when people are around? (it is said that the nude picture occupies the whole of your tv screen when opened)

10. Same story as old Mafia??

Could it be the same story as the old mafia where the hero plays the rat in the end..

11. Copy of Goodfellas??

Some of the scenes showed so far have more resemblance to the Martin Scorcese gangster film..Could it be due to the lack of originality?

12. More resemblance to GTA 4.

The story also seems very much similar to GTA 4 where too the hero is a soldier and is coming home from the ship (here 'train') and meets a fun-loving character Roman, his cousin(here 'his friend), to start his crime journey.

13. No multiplayer.

Finally, there is no multiplayer…

When Mafia II was announced way back in 2007 with a top-notch trailer, everyone thought that it could fetch the GOTY (Game of the Year)..But with all these criticisms leveled against it, I doubt it will? What do you think guys?

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#2 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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You seemingly know a lot about a game that isn't even out yet. Plus some of your criticisms are lackluster. I would rather wait for the game to come out first and then render judgment on its shortcomings.
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#3 millerlight89
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Game will be great, so no. By the way where did you come up with all this? Even if that stuff is true, your complaints are rather lackluster.
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#4 Gamesterpheonix
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Game will be great, so no. By the way where did you come up with all this? Even if that stuff is true, your complaints are rather lackluster.millerlight89
o.0. Okay SOME of then are more or less just complaining that its not GTA 4 but some of them were legit. I mean, Im all for women but really? You have to be a teenage boy or a single man living in your mommas basement to want to wanna open up those playboys. No respectful person would do it if they had a girl or mom around. lol and come on, isnt it the age of goin out and having your way no matter the age? lol no need to incite and prod.
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#5 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"]Game will be great, so no. By the way where did you come up with all this? Even if that stuff is true, your complaints are rather lackluster.Gamesterpheonix
o.0. Okay SOME of then are more or less just complaining that its not GTA 4 but some of them were legit. I mean, Im all for women but really? You have to be a teenage boy or a single man living in your mommas basement to want to wanna open up those playboys. No respectful person would do it if they had a girl or mom around. lol and come on, isnt it the age of goin out and having your way no matter the age? lol no need to incite and prod.

What the hell are you even talking about?
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#6 kozzy1234
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In all honesty, 95% of those things you listed I dont care about.

Looking forward to this game

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#7 Ragingbear505
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1. Driving is a mini-map game.

You mean like in every GTA-esque game ever made since 3? The minimap was always open in GTA4, you don't have to use it, you could you know, check the map and just drive on your own.

2. Cops are more troublesome.

This was my favorite part of Mafia, it was much more immersive. GTA4 just seemed stupid in that you could run a red light, smash into a building, hop out of your car and walk down the street holding an assault rifle, all in front of a cop who just watched you in a city that has a gun ban. Hell they didn't even respond to you running over pedestrians a lot of the time. In Mafia there was no stars system, you just got a ticket, an arrest, or lethal force. Holding an unconcealed weapon? That was an arrest. Running a red light or speeding, that was a ticket. Shooting a weapon, lethal force. Unfortunately I think I understand what you mean since isn't Mafia 2 going to a stars system? If that's the case I'd hate to simply go to an arrest or lethal force just for speeding or running a red light.

3. Small map.

I'm sure it will be fine, all GTA games are actually significantly smaller than they appear. Even San Andreas could be crossed very quickly, it only gave the illusion of size.

4. No country-side

That is disappointing but I can live with it.

5. No blindfire.

I'm happy about this one, blindfire is almost never done right in any video game. In GTA 4 it was basically the win button, you could hit anything as accurately in blindfire as you could stepping out from cover and that's just stupid. In real life blindfire is near useless, you can't hit anything and it mostly just attracts attention to yourself.

6. No Day-Night cycles.

It's necessary because the game is story driven. Each and every mission offers a cinematic experience, the first Mafia was like that, I don't see why the second wouldn't be. There's a reason some missions take place at night in a thunderstorm and others on a sunny afternoon, it's done for a reason and enhances the experience. Mafia didn't have the best sandbox play but out of all the GTA's and GTA clones it had the best writing and missions.

7. No swapping between songs.

Also disappointing but I have a feeling this falls under my above explanation as well.

8. Uncanny valley.

I can live with this given the extreme detail on the main characters.

9. Vulgarity.

It's rated M for Mature, as in intended for an adult audience. If you're showing it to kids you're doing it wrong, if your friends and family can't handle it then you'll have to play when they're not around.

10. Same story as old Mafia??

Probably, it's a major theme in many organized crime dramas and literature.

12. More resemblance to GTA 4.

Probably because both games draw from something that happens in real life even today. Many of those who serve in the armed forces even in modern western nations like the United States come home and go right back to the impoverished background they came from, many become criminals and the skills they learned in the military often serve them well.

13. No multiplayer.

GOOD. The multiplayer in GTA4 was hyped up so much and it was **** Mafia is a story driven game, the only multiplayer I'd ever want to see would be a co-op campaign.

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#8 UpInFlames
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Most of those "negatives" are relative, they're deliberate design choices. Anyone who's played Mafia knows that it's not like Grand Theft Auto at all. Mafia was always about realism. Granted, sometimes it went overboard with it (you couldn't drive/walk 2m without bumping into a cop which is actually highly UNrealistic). Hopefully, this time they'll be able to hit that sweetspot by making the game feel realistic without effectively killing the player's enjoyment.

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#9 cametall
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Well, number 2 was true in Mafia. I also liked that you could run out of gas, which seemed to happen to me in the countryside. As for the countryside, well to me it wasn't all that special in the first game. Also, if I remember correctly, if you wanted to randomly roam the map you had to enter a separate mode in the first one. It wasn't like GTA where you could screw around in between missions. I also do not remember there being a day-night cycle. I could be wrong about some of the above, but really those issues are so nit-picky. Can't we all agree that Mafia II will be better than the first one as long as that DAMN racing part isn't back?
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#10 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="cametall"]\ I could be wrong about some of the above, but really those issues are so nit-picky. Can't we all agree that Mafia II will be better than the first one as long as that DAMN racing part isn't back?

OMG! :P The racing mission, I freaking hated that damn race. I would barely tap something and spin out, or cut too sharp and spin out. Mafia is one of my most cherished games, but damn that racing mission. 90% of the missions are excellent.
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#11 RyuRanVII
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In all honesty, 95% of those things you listed I dont care about.

Looking forward to this game

kozzy1234

Same opinion here.

The only that can "ruin" (couldn't find a better word here) the game for me is the lack of challenge on the PC version because of the combination of health regeneration, cover system and mouse aiming. But it's not something that a modder can't fix. Mafia II seens to be very faithful to Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven.

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#12 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="cametall"]\ I could be wrong about some of the above, but really those issues are so nit-picky. Can't we all agree that Mafia II will be better than the first one as long as that DAMN racing part isn't back?

OMG! :P The racing mission, I freaking hated that damn race. I would barely tap something and spin out, or cut too sharp and spin out. Mafia is one of my most cherished games, but damn that racing mission. 90% of the missions are excellent.

Same here. I would give Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven 9/10, only negative being the race mission worth a whole point off.
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#13 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="cametall"]\ I could be wrong about some of the above, but really those issues are so nit-picky. Can't we all agree that Mafia II will be better than the first one as long as that DAMN racing part isn't back?

OMG! :P The racing mission, I freaking hated that damn race. I would barely tap something and spin out, or cut too sharp and spin out. Mafia is one of my most cherished games, but damn that racing mission. 90% of the missions are excellent.

Same here. I would give Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven 9/10, only negative being the race mission worth a whole point off.

It really is worth a whole point tbh lol. That was the first game I ever had to use a trainer on just so I could get past that small part of the game. Man what a pain.
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#14 mafia21980
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ya seriously it looks more detailed then gta 4 and ya to me the music is better than gta 4 and the cops are more strict is cause they wanted to make it realistic
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#15 biggest_loser
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Do we know for sure there's no countryside? On the map it looks as though there's roads leading outwards possibly to another country by the uh side?
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#16 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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That is a bad use of the phrase "uncanny valley." Aside from that, the only legitimate complaint I see, which actually judges the game based on...the game is the small map and maybe the no blind fire. Blind fire is dumb, and would be completely useless at taking out someone in real life, but it is occasionally used for suppressive fire. As for the map size, I don't know how big it is.
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#17 badtaker
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Mafia2 is not the sequel to gta. :P gta 4 and RDR belongs to your taste please buy it :)