Never buying Seagate Hard Drives Again

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#1 LeadnSteel
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my 2nd Seagate in 3 years died yesterday. Was replaced under warrenty after 2 years and the warrentied one lasted a year. Bought a Western Digital black andf it's alot better.

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#2 Marfoo
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I've stayed away from them since their firmware fiasco, had 4 drives fail on me and have only been hearing bad things since. Never had a problem with any of my WD drives.
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#3 darksusperia
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Ive had drives fail from both sides. like ram, or anything, theres always bad batches.
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#4 04dcarraher
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All harddrives fail. Ive have used just about all brands and have some last ten years while others only lasting a couple years. From all companies. You can not just blame a company when something with mechanical moving parts fail. Ive had a WD drive die the first week of use. Just a few months ago I had a 500gb Seagate drive start to fail after 6 years of heavy use. Called Seagate had them do a advance RMA got my new drive sent in the old one and only was out $10 for shipping.
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#5 Elann2008
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I've had a WD fail on me after 3 months. Bought another WD and it has been working fine for almost 2 years. Using a Samsung spinpoint as well.
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#6 KABCOOL
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I think I have a Seagate, bought it about 2 years ago and its still going strong. Haven't had a single problem wth it. Would definitely buy one again.

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#7 Masenkoe
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I've had more problems with WD drives. Everything is prone to failure.

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#8 jun_aka_pekto
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I haven't had a single hard drive fail yet within a reasonable amount of time. The closest I have would be a 1.6gb WD hard drive I bought in 1995 which went bad in 2001. from that point on, every hard drive I bought since then still works. I still have a 100gb, 160gb, 200gb, and a 250gb (from 2001-2005) plus a 60gb 2.5" external hard drive that all work still. They're all WD and all were boxed (retail) hard drives.

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#9 JigglyWiggly_
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You are kidding yourself if you think WD drives fail less. It all depends on the series of the drives you are buying and ofc luck. On avg they fail the same, i have a bunch of drives from both companies. WD drives, the ones I have failed more often.
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#10 Tezcatlipoca666
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Ive had drives fail from both sides. like ram, or anything, theres always bad batches.darksusperia

Yep. My main desktop has a 7-8 year old 250GB SATA Seagate Barracuda drive as primary. It has worked flawlessly all these years. I have an even older Seagate in another PC although it probably hasn't seen quite as many hours as the one in my main desktop.

The point is that sometimes you get lucky and other times not so much. The brands that are truly crap are consistently crap. If a single bad batch made a manufacturer crap then they would pretty much all be crap.

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#11 awptical
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Guess im just lucky. Never ever in my life had a HDD fail before. Im actually still using the same Hard Drive for about 10 years now. Lets see, I got some E-Marchines computer from my mom when I was in the 9th grade and I'm 25 now so....Im gonna figure out what brand made this drive and stick to that.

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#12 jun_aka_pekto
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You are kidding yourself if you think WD drives fail less. It all depends on the series of the drives you are buying and ofc luck. On avg they fail the same, i have a bunch of drives from both companies. WD drives, the ones I have failed more often.JigglyWiggly_

I don't think WD drives fail less than other hard drives. But, what I posted above is my experience with WD drives up to this point.

Edit:

So far, the two WD hard drives I have in my gaming PC from 2009 are still purring along quite nicely.

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#13 ShadowDeathX
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I have four hard drive in my computer. 1 Hitachi drive. 1 Samsung drive. 1 Western Digital drive. 1 Seagate drive. All work fine. :)
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#14 Yams1980
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i've had more seagates die then WD... but overall i've had failures with them both. They will break eventually, but i completely agree with you, Seagate drives are pretty scary to use... i do own 5-6 seagate drives but they are backed up multiple times over because i trust them so little... just remember though all drives can fail... no matter the brand. I had a lightening surge which fried a whole pile of them over a year ago. And I had some die naturally before that from mechanical failures.

it seems to me that seagates quality really dropped when they bought out maxtor... not sure why that was.

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Edit:

So far, the two WD hard drives I have in my gaming PC from 2009 are still purring along quite nicely.

jun_aka_pekto
I have a wd from 2007 still runs nice. Had to move skyrim off of it though, kept locking up. Moved it to a 2 tb wd I got for xmas, runs nice now. Other than that, no problems.
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#16 dramaybaz
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Oh your HDD failed. Please tell me more about how the company is bad, and the only one with breaking parts.

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#17 JohnF111
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Currently been using a seagate for 4 years in my PC and also have them in my NAS and that's been running fine, all drives fail and they are pretty delicate pieces of hardware so yeah expect failures and don't just blame the company.
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#18 jun_aka_pekto
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Currently been using a seagate for 4 years in my PC and also have them in my NAS and that's been running fine, all drives fail and they are pretty delicate pieces of hardware so yeah expect failures and don't just blame the company.JohnF111

Hard drives are expected to fail eventually. That's a given. I have to wonder though....... How can some people have so much bad luck with hard drives while others are much luckier? I consider myself one of the lucky ones. The shortest lifespan of any hard drive I've bought (since I started DIY PCs in 1992) was six years. Now that I think about it, I also have a couple of 4gb IDE hard drives from the late 90's and they still work. Those two plus the ones I mentioned earlier have had a minimum of four years use as a system drive before they were relegated to secondary storage.

I do my fair share of number crunching, video-editing, gaming and other hard drive-intensive tasks. I've used the old drives as a separate drive to hold swap files/virtual memory. They all continued to perform well. Not one of them even has a bad cluster up to now. I can't be that lucky. There's something else not being factored in that has to account for some people having bad luck with hard drives.

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#19 JohnF111
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Currently been using a seagate for 4 years in my PC and also have them in my NAS and that's been running fine, all drives fail and they are pretty delicate pieces of hardware so yeah expect failures and don't just blame the company.jun_aka_pekto

Hard drives are expected to fail eventually. That's a given. I have to wonder though....... How can some people have so much bad luck with hard drives while others are much luckier? I consider myself one of the lucky ones. The shortest lifespan of any hard drive I've bought (since I started DIY PCs in 1992) was six years. Now that I think about it, I also have a couple of 4gb IDE hard drives from the late 90's and they still work. Those two plus the ones I mentioned earlier have had a minimum of four years use as a system drive before they were relegated to secondary storage.

I do my fair share of number crunching, video-editing, gaming and other hard drive-intensive tasks. I've used the old drives as a separate drive to hold swap files/virtual memory. They all continued to perform well. Not one of them even has a bad cluster up to now. I can't be that lucky. There's something else not being factored in that has to account for some people having bad luck with hard drives.

Yeah I think some people tend to exaggerate a little, they have one drive fail after 5 years which becomes 3 drives failing in 3 years, when they come to type it on a forum it's 4 drives in 2 years that failed.

I totally agree there's other factors as well, I do know people who's drives fail far more than me but then again they own more of them, I have like 8 in total plus my SSD's, one of my mates owns like 20 and about every month he's having a failure of some sorts. It can't just be bad products or bad luck, there's definitely something else in there acting as a catalyst.

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#20 Amster_G
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Oh your HDD failed. Please tell me more about how the company is bad, and the only one with breaking parts.

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Yeah, I don't really understand the point of this thread. Unless you had a question about hard drives it would've made more sense to make a thread.

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#21 Nibroc420
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my 2nd Seagate in 3 years died yesterday. Was replaced under warrenty after 2 years and the warrentied one lasted a year. Bought a Western Digital black andf it's alot better.

LeadnSteel

So you've been using Seagate drives for 3 years, and only 2 fail over that period of time.
You've only JUST purchased a WD black, and "it's alot better"

How do you know the WB black isn't going to fail within a year, making it a worse drive?
What makes it "better", aside from personal bias?

There's no possible way to determine if a drive is more reliable in the long term,only a week into puchasing it.

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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Currently been using a seagate for 4 years in my PC and also have them in my NAS and that's been running fine, all drives fail and they are pretty delicate pieces of hardware so yeah expect failures and don't just blame the company.JohnF111

Hard drives are expected to fail eventually. That's a given. I have to wonder though....... How can some people have so much bad luck with hard drives while others are much luckier? I consider myself one of the lucky ones. The shortest lifespan of any hard drive I've bought (since I started DIY PCs in 1992) was six years. Now that I think about it, I also have a couple of 4gb IDE hard drives from the late 90's and they still work. Those two plus the ones I mentioned earlier have had a minimum of four years use as a system drive before they were relegated to secondary storage.

I do my fair share of number crunching, video-editing, gaming and other hard drive-intensive tasks. I've used the old drives as a separate drive to hold swap files/virtual memory. They all continued to perform well. Not one of them even has a bad cluster up to now. I can't be that lucky. There's something else not being factored in that has to account for some people having bad luck with hard drives.

Yeah I think some people tend to exaggerate a little, they have one drive fail after 5 years which becomes 3 drives failing in 3 years, when they come to type it on a forum it's 4 drives in 2 years that failed.

I totally agree there's other factors as well, I do know people who's drives fail far more than me but then again they own more of them, I have like 8 in total plus my SSD's, one of my mates owns like 20 and about every month he's having a failure of some sorts. It can't just be bad products or bad luck, there's definitely something else in there acting as a catalyst.

environmental power. unfiltered power tends to kill drives of so quickly. (along with the rest of your machine)
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#24 LeadnSteel
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Oh your HDD failed. Please tell me more about how the company is bad, and the only one with breaking parts.

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Never had any problems with Wester Digital when I had them in my old pcs for years..... then I switch to Seagate and 1 of their drives die in 2 years and then the warrenty one dies in 1 year?

Also the Western Digital seems alot faster too.

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#25 jun_aka_pekto
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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Hard drives are expected to fail eventually. That's a given. I have to wonder though....... How can some people have so much bad luck with hard drives while others are much luckier? I consider myself one of the lucky ones. The shortest lifespan of any hard drive I've bought (since I started DIY PCs in 1992) was six years. Now that I think about it, I also have a couple of 4gb IDE hard drives from the late 90's and they still work. Those two plus the ones I mentioned earlier have had a minimum of four years use as a system drive before they were relegated to secondary storage.

I do my fair share of number crunching, video-editing, gaming and other hard drive-intensive tasks. I've used the old drives as a separate drive to hold swap files/virtual memory. They all continued to perform well. Not one of them even has a bad cluster up to now. I can't be that lucky. There's something else not being factored in that has to account for some people having bad luck with hard drives.

darksusperia

Yeah I think some people tend to exaggerate a little, they have one drive fail after 5 years which becomes 3 drives failing in 3 years, when they come to type it on a forum it's 4 drives in 2 years that failed.

I totally agree there's other factors as well, I do know people who's drives fail far more than me but then again they own more of them, I have like 8 in total plus my SSD's, one of my mates owns like 20 and about every month he's having a failure of some sorts. It can't just be bad products or bad luck, there's definitely something else in there acting as a catalyst.

environmental power. unfiltered power tends to kill drives of so quickly. (along with the rest of your machine)

I've had PSUs go bad especially the cheap ones bundled with PC cases due to "dirty" power. But, hard drives? Not yet. That goes for the numerous WD ones I have plus the Seagate Barracuda in the wife's DIY. It incredible to have a couple of IDE hard drives from 2001 (plus two more 4gb ones from the late 90's) still working. My worry is the IDE controller would probably disappear from motherboards first before those IDE hard drives go. :lol:

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[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Currently been using a seagate for 4 years in my PC and also have them in my NAS and that's been running fine, all drives fail and they are pretty delicate pieces of hardware so yeah expect failures and don't just blame the company.jun_aka_pekto

Hard drives are expected to fail eventually. That's a given. I have to wonder though....... How can some people have so much bad luck with hard drives while others are much luckier? I consider myself one of the lucky ones. The shortest lifespan of any hard drive I've bought (since I started DIY PCs in 1992) was six years. Now that I think about it, I also have a couple of 4gb IDE hard drives from the late 90's and they still work. Those two plus the ones I mentioned earlier have had a minimum of four years use as a system drive before they were relegated to secondary storage.

I do my fair share of number crunching, video-editing, gaming and other hard drive-intensive tasks. I've used the old drives as a separate drive to hold swap files/virtual memory. They all continued to perform well. Not one of them even has a bad cluster up to now. I can't be that lucky. There's something else not being factored in that has to account for some people having bad luck with hard drives.

Law of large numbers most people(including yourself) don't buy and use anywhere near enough drives to get an average failure rate of what is reported for certain drive from certain manufacturers there can and is extreme variance from the expected failure rate between the few drives tend to buy some people all of them work great for even longer then expected others get a bunch of drives failing prematurely one after the other. Only large companies buying tens of thousands can get any sort of meaningful statistical data on how often drives fail on average.