New Ati 5870 Benchmarks= Failure!

http://www.czechgamer.com/gallery.php?gallery=ano&autor=&nazev=pics/clanky/RobertVarga_14-09-2009-19-28-21_hd5870benchmark.jpg

Its agains the gtx 295 and in some benchmarks it beats the gtx 295 in some it doesnt.

Lol its going out with a 400 dollar price tag, and the nvidia gtx 295 its 400 dollars already so is it worth the upgrade AT this price point HELL NO!

i believe they messed up in their rush because its coming witha 256 bit bandwidth, While it may have 1600 stream processors and 5000mhz of speed that bandwidth is bottlenecking like HELL.

I was really hoping for ati to kick ass but Nvidia is realsing their cards in 2 months or so with GDDR5 CONFIRMED, and 512 bit bandwidth, possibly with 5000mhz memory clock as well, So there could be a 40-50 percent increase from the 5870 and ATI the one supposed to be the winner, WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL....!

As far as I can tell, if the 5870 comes out at the 399 USD price tag, it'll still be approx. 50 dollars cheaper than the gtx 295. That, along with the fact that it can beat the gtx 295 in some games, as well as supporting DX11, doesn't say it's a fail.

Lol then you call it a succes

8 MONTHS after the gtx 295 arrival.

same as powerful.

only 50 dollars cheaper pathetic.

dx 11 support while dx 11 is making most things compatible with dx 10.1. so there is no much need.

Wow u are right the ati 5870 is a success(sarcasm).

Meh your post fails.

Wheres the fail besides this thread? It doubles the old 4870 performance. GTX 295 is a space heater along with high power consumption.

Lol then you call it a succes

8 MONTHS after the gtx 295 arrival.

same as powerful.

only 50 dollars cheaper pathetic.

dx 11 support while dx 11 is making most things compatible with dx 10.1. so there is no much need.

Wow u are right the ati 5870 is a success(sarcasm).

Meh your post fails.

pureskull123

you call that a fail? The card is a SINGLE gpu and more or less is as fast as the fastest DUAL gpu out today ( imagine the 5870x2 performance ). Let alone it only have 188W tdp as opposed to 289W thus it will run cooler and save you alot of money in the long run ( 100W difference in TDP its alot ) let alone a single gpu solution is more attractive than a dual gpu

Again single GPU as fast as Dual GPU that is by no means fail

the 5870 also isnt a fail if you consider that on many game where it beats the gtx 295 it also wallops the superior and $400 more asus ROG MARS (gtx285x2) which means that is better than basically and single card out there when it hits the shelves for those games. so i say it is not the thread that fails.. but you that fails.

on hawx a rog mars on full at highest resolution + full aa n af gets 64fps max the 5870 gets 70 on the same settings. i say get outta here.

http://www.czechgamer.com/gallery.php?gallery=ano&autor=&nazev=pics/clanky/RobertVarga_14-09-2009-19-28-21_hd5870benchmark.jpg

Its agains the gtx 295 and in some benchmarks it beats the gtx 295 in some it doesnt.

Lol its going out with a 400 dollar price tag, and the nvidia gtx 295 its 400 dollars already so is it worth the upgrade AT this price point HELL NO!

i believe they messed up in their rush because its coming witha 256 bit bandwidth, While it may have 1600 stream processors and 5000mhz of speed that bandwidth is bottlenecking like HELL.

I was really hoping for ati to kick ass but Nvidia is realsing their cards in 2 months or so with GDDR5 CONFIRMED, and 512 bit bandwidth, possibly with 5000mhz memory clock as well, So there could be a 40-50 percent increase from the 5870 and ATI the one supposed to be the winner, WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL....!

pureskull123

Yes, and so does this thread.

Wheres the fail besides this thread? It doubles the old 4870 performance. GTX 295 is a space heater along with high power consumption.

Mr_BillGates

I didn't see this post earlier but I must say: +1. :D

Lol then you call it a succes

8 MONTHS after the gtx 295 arrival.

same as powerful.

only 50 dollars cheaper pathetic.

dx 11 support while dx 11 is making most things compatible with dx 10.1. so there is no much need.

Wow u are right the ati 5870 is a success(sarcasm).

Meh your post fails.

pureskull123

Either OP is an idiot or he doesn't understand that the HD5870 is a SINGLE GPU beating a dual gpu card like the GTX295.

Please remove the message above, you'll be moderated for sure.

OP clearly doesent know what he is talking about, probably a NVIDIA fanboy.

I'v only had nvidia graphics cards and even I am willing to admit when a ati card is clearly better. :D

Nvidia fanboy alert.

Please take note that the GTX 295 is at MOST 25% better than the HD 5870, which is still only ONE GPU. The 5870, on the other hand, is as much as 95% better than it. Also, please don't distort the truth, the GTX 295 is STILL $500, $100 more than the card which is going to destroy it. Add the fact that the 5870 has DX11 support, Eyefinity technology (much more useful than PhysX, IMO), and DOESN'T CRASH IN A GAME.

Lol then you call it a succes

8 MONTHS after the gtx 295 arrival.

same as powerful.

only 50 dollars cheaper pathetic.

dx 11 support while dx 11 is making most things compatible with dx 10.1. so there is no much need.

Wow u are right the ati 5870 is a success(sarcasm).

Meh your post fails.

pureskull123

GTX 295 = 2 cards, therefore, a single card that perfrorms the same is a great accomplishment. PLus it supports DX11 and will perform better in games that aren't good ate SLI. Also, you're looking at the wrong benchmarks. The 5870 usually wins hands down by several FPS.

Your hostility shows your fanboyism. We should all ignore you after this.

[QUOTE="pureskull123"]

Lol then you call it a succes

8 MONTHS after the gtx 295 arrival.

same as powerful.

only 50 dollars cheaper pathetic.

dx 11 support while dx 11 is making most things compatible with dx 10.1. so there is no much need.

Wow u are right the ati 5870 is a success(sarcasm).

Meh your post fails.

Nokanhav

GTX 295 = 2 cards, therefore, a single card that perfrorms the same is a great accomplishment. PLus it supports DX11 and will perform better in games that aren't good ate SLI. Also, you're looking at the wrong benchmarks. The 5870 usually wins hands down by several FPS.

Your hostility shows your fanboyism. We should all ignore you after this.

First I must congratulate you on yourfirst semi-non fanboy post I've seen. Second, you have no right accusing someone who is probably uninformed of being a fanboy. A fanboy is a person stops posting after people bring him facts, and always remains in his own realm even after being provided with them. Anyway, I must agree, 5870 is great if you can get more features plus the equal performance and all that at a lower price than the current fastest DUAL GPU video card. 5870x2 will surely best any GT300 except nvidia's own dual GPU cards.

Your hostility shows your fanboyism. We should all ignore you after this.

Only because he doesn't have the same opinion as you or is uninformed doesn't mean he is a fanboy. Using the same ideology, I should ignore you and you me, and everyone who has a different opinion should ignore each other. He didn't show hostility, he showed lack of knowledge, maybe expressing it in an unusual and rude way because he is angered by thinking ATI is bad and people still respect them.

Faboy? Just because I see facts I'm a fanboy? I own a Phenom II X4 945, HD 4850. How would I be an Intel fanboy? I've never once owned a gaming computer with an Intel processor. Also, I've used an equal amount of Nvidia and ATI graphics cards. Just because I see benchmarks where the i5 wins and don't ignore it doesn't mean I'm a fanboy. You're the only that's so deluded in your fanboy cloud that you can't see how ignorant you really are.

Also, I didn't call him a fanboy because he's uninformed. I called him a fanboy because he's hostile to anyone who is against Nvidia.

http://www.czechgamer.com/gallery.php?gallery=ano&autor=&nazev=pics/clanky/RobertVarga_14-09-2009-19-28-21_hd5870benchmark.jpg

Its agains the gtx 295 and in some benchmarks it beats the gtx 295 in some it doesnt.

Lol its going out with a 400 dollar price tag, and the nvidia gtx 295 its 400 dollars already so is it worth the upgrade AT this price point HELL NO!

i believe they messed up in their rush because its coming witha 256 bit bandwidth, While it may have 1600 stream processors and 5000mhz of speed that bandwidth is bottlenecking like HELL.

I was really hoping for ati to kick ass but Nvidia is realsing their cards in 2 months or so with GDDR5 CONFIRMED, and 512 bit bandwidth, possibly with 5000mhz memory clock as well, So there could be a 40-50 percent increase from the 5870 and ATI the one supposed to be the winner, WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL....!

pureskull123

1. its a single core gpu verses 2

2. it uses significantly less power and produces less heat

3. it can be OCed further than the GTX295 could hope to

4. the 256bit bus is negated by the effective speed of the GDDR5. the whole reason ATI went with GDDR5 instead of a 512mb bus like Nvidia because it was a 'cheaper' and more effective method of increasing memory bandwidth.

5.DX11 verses not even 10.1 support only 10.

so learn a little bit about the hardware and hardware in general before making ignorant assumptions

Everyone has to note the fact that catalyst 8.22beta is used to benchmark the 5870, which is not an official driver since

the card is not released.

http://en.expreview.com/2009/09/15/first-radeon-hd-5870-benchmarks-hit-the-web.html.

Check out the line-"Considering the driver is unofficial (Catalyst 8.66 Beta 2), the real performance of HD5800 series has yet to be confirmed"

if a single card before it comes outcan compete with frames of a top of the line dual GPU card then it is by all means a winner. because dual GPU cards and Crossfire/SLI get mega frames in any game.

[QUOTE="pureskull123"]

http://www.czechgamer.com/gallery.php?gallery=ano&autor=&nazev=pics/clanky/RobertVarga_14-09-2009-19-28-21_hd5870benchmark.jpg

Its agains the gtx 295 and in some benchmarks it beats the gtx 295 in some it doesnt.

Lol its going out with a 400 dollar price tag, and the nvidia gtx 295 its 400 dollars already so is it worth the upgrade AT this price point HELL NO!

i believe they messed up in their rush because its coming witha 256 bit bandwidth, While it may have 1600 stream processors and 5000mhz of speed that bandwidth is bottlenecking like HELL.

I was really hoping for ati to kick ass but Nvidia is realsing their cards in 2 months or so with GDDR5 CONFIRMED, and 512 bit bandwidth, possibly with 5000mhz memory clock as well, So there could be a 40-50 percent increase from the 5870 and ATI the one supposed to be the winner, WILL EVENTUALLY FAIL....!

Slig0

Yes, and so does this thread.

Agreed, fail troll has failed.