New Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Q&A on IGN (Setting, DX11 and Multiplayer)

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#1 Crypt_mx
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Before anyone gets excited by the title no, there will not be any multiplayer in Elder Scrolls: Skyrim.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/115/1158651p1.html

Personally I am loving the way the game sounds and cannot wait to play it later this year. However I do wish they would have provides some sort of small multiplayer implementation, like a co-op mode or an option to duel a friend. Im not upset that it isnt in, it just woulda been cool.

I am also a little bit upset that the game will be not taking advantage of DX11 specific features but, meh. Thats what you get for multiplat games.

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#2 Bangerman15
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i would like a small co op mode or something wouldve been cool, and no DX11 what the heckkkkkkkk oh well at least we have mods
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IGN: Finally, a few silly questions. Is there a unicorn in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: That's DLC. For a hundred dollars.

IGN: Can you ride dragons in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: Not in the way you're asking.

Can you levitate in Skyrim?

Todd Howard: Another DLC. Three hundred dollars.

YAY DLC!

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#4 Crypt_mx
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i would like a small co op mode or something wouldve been cool, and no DX11 what the heckkkkkkkk oh well at least we have modsBangerman15

The game does support DX11, but does not use DX specific features like tesselation. I dont know what DX11 would do for the game without those things, but i guess we will see.

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#5 andalore
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At least theres no Horse Armour DLC. :P

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#6 icyseanfitz
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the elder scrolls was never about mp so i dont care about it, its upsetting that they arnt taking advantage of dx11, heres hoping it wont be a console cash cow like DA2

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just use more than 4 voice actors, make a varied environment, make leveling more useful, and give me mod tools, and im good

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#8 GeneralShowzer
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Ah yes, the infamous "Announce DX11, only never to mention it again" Crysis 2 did it, Shogun II did it, Assassins Creed : Brotherhood did it :P
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#9 lordreaven
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Ah yes, the infamous "Announce DX11, only never to mention it again" Crysis 2 did it, Shogun II did it, Assassins Creed : Brotherhood did it :PGeneralShowzer
Wait, AC:B announced DX11? And Shogun will get it DX11 in a patch, the Devs have mentioned it several times in TWcenter after release.

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#10 ChubbyGuy40
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Oh boy, another DX11 game thats console first, PC second. Wait this sounds familiar...

Better prepare your 8.5-rim hats and shirts now!

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#11 lawlessx
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Oh boy, another DX11 game thats console first, PC second. Wait this sounds familiar...

Better prepare your 8.5-rim hats and shirts now!

ChubbyGuy40
who cares what it scores here?..PC version has mods lol
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#12 SLUSHiNaToR
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Before anyone gets excited by the title no, there will not be any multiplayer in Elder Scrolls.

Crypt_mx
That would kill Elder Scrolls. Why would anyone be excited about that D:
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#13 Crypt_mx
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[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

Before anyone gets excited by the title no, there will not be any multiplayer in Elder Scrolls.

SLUSHiNaToR

That would kill Elder Scrolls. Why would anyone be excited about that D:

How exactly would that "Kill" the elder scrolls? How would being able to duel a friend to see who is superior or have a friend fight with you on your quest "kill" the game. It would only make the game even better. I dont want a full blown deathmatch.

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"IGN: I know you probably get this question a lot but we have to ask, is there any plan to include multiplayer features or co-operative play in Skyrim, or will The Elder Scrolls continue to be a single-player only franchise? Todd Howard: The two most requested features we get are dragons and multiplayer. We got one of them this time! We always look into multiplayer, put lots of ideas on the whiteboard, and it always loses. It's not that we don't like it. I can think of ways it would be a lot of fun, but at the end of the day, that dev time is going to take away from doing the best single player game we can, and that's where our hearts are." That is what I like to see... I have high hopes for this game. As long as modders get the freedom they need, it will be great.
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#15 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

Before anyone gets excited by the title no, there will not be any multiplayer in Elder Scrolls.

SLUSHiNaToR
That would kill Elder Scrolls. Why would anyone be excited about that D:

I would love to see some sort of co-op, but that is it. I hope that Elder Scrolls would never have competitive multiplayer, but co-op would be nice. Plus co-op probably wouldn't have to take them away from making a great experience considering it would just be the single player game with more than one person.
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#16 morrowindnic
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Multiplayer is useless in elder scrolls. No need for it at all. I dont care for a tacked on multiplayer mode.

I wasnt exicted for the before, cause of how oblivion turned out. But it starting to really look good. And by the time it comes out I'll how a new moniter and graphics card. Hell maybe I'll get a new cpu. muahaha. Can't wait.

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(Shouting is based on certain words in the dragon language that, when used together, form magical attacks). Sounds like something out of the Eragon novels. :)

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#18 Sleepyz
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Bit dissapointed in no dx 11 just got this new 560 gtx ti so would of handled it easy and a coop thing would of been nice also to play with my friend but its still my most wanted game.

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#19 morrowindnic
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Bit dissapointed in no dx 11 just got this new 560 gtx ti so would of handled it easy and a coop thing would of been nice also to play with my friend but its still my most wanted game.

Sleepyz

It will support dx11.

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#20 Remmib
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Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.
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#21 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.

And?
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[QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.

skyrim is a console game...that will be transform thru the power of modding
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#24 Crypt_mx
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[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.Remmib
And?

That will be another flop, like it's predecessor, due to Bethesda catering to the lowest common IQ denominator of the gaming market.

sorry bro, but its that kind of PC Elitest approach that is killing PC gaming. We are all gamers, just because someone plays on consoles doesnt make them stupid. I have a friend with a 96% average, who does not play on PC because it is too expensive and he prefers gamepads. Does he have a low IQ? No. He has a preference and an opinion.

Also Oblivion was well recieved and far from a flop FYI.

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#25 Born_Lucky
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Oblivion was a flop?

Maybe in some alternate-universe bizarro world, in the plot of an underground pseudo-indie comic book, buried somewhere with the game Jumanji, under 300 million tons of molten lava - maybe.

But here in the real world . . . . no, it wasn't a flop.

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#27 morrowindnic
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[QUOTE="Remmib"][QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"] And?Crypt_mx

That will be another flop, like it's predecessor, due to Bethesda catering to the lowest common IQ denominator of the gaming market.

sorry bro, but its that kind of PC Elitest approach that is killing PC gaming. We are all gamers, just because someone plays on consoles doesnt make them stupid. I have a friend with a 96% average, who does not play on PC because it is too expensive and he prefers gamepads. Does he have a low IQ? No. He has a preference and an opinion.

Also Oblivion was well recieved and far from a flop FYI.

Almost all my friends play on consoles, and very few aknoledge the fact that a PC can be more powerfull then a console. Most of them laugh at the idea of it. You give them too much credit. Are they human? Yes, but that doesn't mean they have common sense.

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[QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.

And no doubt we'll hear it again. And again. And again. Truly, it never gets old.
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[QUOTE="Crypt_mx"]

[QUOTE="Remmib"] That will be another flop, like it's predecessor, due to Bethesda catering to the lowest common IQ denominator of the gaming market.Remmib

sorry bro, but its that kind of PC Elitest approach that is killing PC gaming. We are all gamers, just because someone plays on consoles doesnt make them stupid. I have a friend with a 96% average, who does not play on PC because it is too expensive and he prefers gamepads. Does he have a low IQ? No. He has a preference and an opinion.

Also Oblivion was well recieved and far from a flop FYI.

Oh really? PC gaming is being killed? Lol. It grew this past year by 19% or so, if I recall the statistic correctly.

On average the person who plays on consoles has a lower age, IQ, and standard for quality of games, in addition to these facts they also enjoy instant gratification.

PC is cheaper than console gaming and you can use any gamepad you want. So yeah maybe he does...

Any gamer worth his salt knows that Oblivion was a major step down in almost every aspect (besides combat and graphics) than Morrowind.

What school or college did you finished? What is you position in job? What have you accompished in your life? Result of you IQ test?

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PC Gaming IS more expensive than console gaming, unless you choose to restrict yourself to budget parts...even trying to get a mid range pc will easily set you back around 1k usd including the monitor, which is significantly more than that of a console. And don't argue crap like you need a TV for a console... And enough with this superior mindset over console gamers, It's true the majority of console games are more of a 'pick up and play' variety but that's because consoles cater to a different group of people, who might not have as much time to invest in certain games, which is why most MMOs and strategy games never appear on consoles, NOT because the gamers are of a lower IQ and whatnot, which is a **** argument as I'm sure precisely a lot of people out there play console games because they have less time to invest on games, which in turn means that they're are probably spending more time on the more important things in life. I own both a PC and a Xbox 360 and each system has both great games as well as abysmal ones, depends on what you like playing. And if you guys always complain about how the quality of PC gaming has worsened as a result of console influences then why don't you just stick to Baldur's Gate 2 or whichever 10 year old game has caught your fancy while the rest of us enjoy what is available right now... save some money too

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IGN: Can you ride dragons in Skyrim? Todd Howard: Not in the way you're asking. I lol'ed :lol:
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#33 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.Remmib
And?

That will be another flop, like it's predecessor, due to Bethesda catering to the lowest common IQ denominator of the gaming market.

Oblivion was a console game too ^^ That outscored Morrowind i think

As another poster said, modders will make it into a PC game.

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#34 Gibsonsg527
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[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="Remmib"]Skyrim is a console game. You heard it here first.Remmib
And?

That will be another flop, like it's predecessor, due to Bethesda catering to the lowest common IQ denominator of the gaming market.

Wow you are so ignorant.

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I like how they skirt around the fact that you may technically be able to play in DX11, but it won't use any DX11 features. What's the point, then?

I'm tired of playing console games but with increased AA and AF, and using a m+kb. If they expect better PC sales, they gotta cater to the platform. Eh, not like I'm gonna buy this on day one anyway... I already made that mistake with Oblivion, hoping it would be even better than Morrowind.

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#37 Remmib
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I like how they skirt around the fact that you may technically be able to play in DX11, but it won't use any DX11 features. What's the point, then?

I'm tired of playing console games but with increased AA and AF, and using a m+kb. If they expect better PC sales, they gotta cater to the platform. Eh, not like I'm gonna buy this on day one anyway... I already made that mistake with Oblivion, hoping it would be even better than Morrowind.

MyopicCanadian
+1 on everything you said.
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#38 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="MyopicCanadian"]

I like how they skirt around the fact that you may technically be able to play in DX11, but it won't use any DX11 features. What's the point, then?

I'm tired of playing console games but with increased AA and AF, and using a m+kb. If they expect better PC sales, they gotta cater to the platform. Eh, not like I'm gonna buy this on day one anyway... I already made that mistake with Oblivion, hoping it would be even better than Morrowind.

Remmib
+1 on everything you said.

Well...they are releasing mod tools and they DON'T have to do that. So It's good enough for me. We will see user made textures and graphical improvements and UI tweaks, ect.
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PC Gaming IS more expensive than console gaming, unless you choose to restrict yourself to budget parts...even trying to get a mid range pc will easily set you back around 1k usd including the monitor, which is significantly more than that of a console. And don't argue crap like you need a TV for a console... And enough with this superior mindset over console gamers, It's true the majority of console games are more of a 'pick up and play' variety but that's because consoles cater to a different group of people, who might not have as much time to invest in certain games, which is why most MMOs and strategy games never appear on consoles, NOT because the gamers are of a lower IQ and whatnot, which is a **** argument as I'm sure precisely a lot of people out there play console games because they have less time to invest on games, which in turn means that they're are probably spending more time on the more important things in life. I own both a PC and a Xbox 360 and each system has both great games as well as abysmal ones, depends on what you like playing. And if you guys always complain about how the quality of PC gaming has worsened as a result of console influences then why don't you just stick to Baldur's Gate 2 or whichever 10 year old game has caught your fancy while the rest of us enjoy what is available right now... save some money too

Redfet01

PC gaming is MUCH CHEAPER then consoles. Paying less then $20 for most my games, compared to if they have a console counter part that would be usualy still $60. I'm saving so much money.

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#40 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="Redfet01"]

PC Gaming IS more expensive than console gaming, unless you choose to restrict yourself to budget parts...even trying to get a mid range pc will easily set you back around 1k usd including the monitor, which is significantly more than that of a console. And don't argue crap like you need a TV for a console... And enough with this superior mindset over console gamers, It's true the majority of console games are more of a 'pick up and play' variety but that's because consoles cater to a different group of people, who might not have as much time to invest in certain games, which is why most MMOs and strategy games never appear on consoles, NOT because the gamers are of a lower IQ and whatnot, which is a **** argument as I'm sure precisely a lot of people out there play console games because they have less time to invest on games, which in turn means that they're are probably spending more time on the more important things in life. I own both a PC and a Xbox 360 and each system has both great games as well as abysmal ones, depends on what you like playing. And if you guys always complain about how the quality of PC gaming has worsened as a result of console influences then why don't you just stick to Baldur's Gate 2 or whichever 10 year old game has caught your fancy while the rest of us enjoy what is available right now... save some money too

morrowindnic

PC gaming is MUCH CHEAPER then consoles. Paying less then $20 for most my games, compared to if they have a console counter part that would be usualy still $60. I'm saving so much money.

Really because I haven't spent $60 for a 360 game for a long time and i'm not buying 4 year old games either. The cost of buying the platform is more expensive on the PC side (even without monitor because that would be like saying everyone that buys a console buys a tv with it...). The costs for buying games will be higher on consoles (unless you don't use steam or other digital stores), but not to the amount you said.
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#41 Redfet01
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wow less than 20 bucks? that's quite impossible unless you're talking about old or games on sale...which can be said the same for 2ndhand console games which tend to be easier to buy since they only require the disk, no serial numbers or anything like that

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#42 Remmib
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Well...they are releasing mod tools and they DON'T have to do that. So It's good enough for me. We will see user made textures and graphical improvements and UI tweaks, ect.GeneralShowzer

Um, yes...yes they do.

[QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

PC gaming is MUCH CHEAPER then consoles. Paying less then $20 for most my games, compared to if they have a console counter part that would be usualy still $60. I'm saving so much money.

Agent_Kaliaver

Really because I haven't spent $60 for a 360 game for a long time and i'm not buying 4 year old games either. The cost of buying the platform is more expensive on the PC side (even without monitor because that would be like saying everyone that buys a console buys a tv with it...). The costs for buying games will be higher on consoles (unless you don't use steam or other digital stores), but not to the amount you said.

PC gaming is cheaper.

How exactly are you typing on this forum? Oh wait you had to buy a computer...that was at least $400 (for something that isn't a complete turd). Add $300 or so to that $400 you would have to pay for a computer anyway - and you have a $700 budget to build a gaming computer that can do everything and more. Add on top of that factor vastly cheaper games and you have a winning platform. Oh and monitors are cheaper than TVs, just thought I'd throw that out there too.

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#43 saruman354
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My favorite part:

IGN: Finally, a few silly questions. Is there a unicorn in Skyrim?

Todd Howard
: That's DLC. For a hundred dollars.

IGN: Can you ride dragons in Skyrim?

Todd Howard
: Not in the way you're asking.

Can you levitate in Skyrim?

Todd Howard
: Another DLC. Three hundred dollars.

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Wow didn't knew it got a multiplayer - rofl after fans releasing multi modes for Oblivion and San Andreas - game devs actually listen for their fans - awesome news, and game just looks fantastic - really makes me wanna upgrade my rig to run it max
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#45 Agent_Kaliaver
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

Um, yes...yes they do.

[QUOTE="Agent_Kaliaver"][QUOTE="morrowindnic"]

PC gaming is MUCH CHEAPER then consoles. Paying less then $20 for most my games, compared to if they have a console counter part that would be usualy still $60. I'm saving so much money.

Remmib

Really because I haven't spent $60 for a 360 game for a long time and i'm not buying 4 year old games either. The cost of buying the platform is more expensive on the PC side (even without monitor because that would be like saying everyone that buys a console buys a tv with it...). The costs for buying games will be higher on consoles (unless you don't use steam or other digital stores), but not to the amount you said.

PC gaming is cheaper.

How exactly are you typing on this forum? Oh wait you had to buy a computer...that was at least $400 (for something that isn't a complete turd). Add $300 or so to that $400 you would have to pay for a computer anyway - and you have a $700 budget to build a gaming computer that can do everything and more. Add on top of that factor vastly cheaper games and you have a winning platform. Oh and monitors are cheaper than TVs, just thought I'd throw that out there too.

So you assume I am using a PC (which I am). I could just as easily be using a phone or the PS3 and possibly the Wii.

PC GAMING is cheaper when it comes to buying the games, but not the platform. Do not try to throw in the extra things PCs can do that do not even effect its gaming capabilities. When we compare each platform as a GAMING device (I keep emphasizing that because that is what you originally said) then no the PC isn't actually cheaper (unless it comes to games).

Yes PCs do come with many extra features, but if you were to buy or upgrade a PC as a gaming machine, and solely a gaming machine (I know people that do, and while there are reasons to upgrade your PC a big one is gaming, because most likely you won't upgrade for a newest Microsoft Word) then it again isn't cheaper.

Also there is a difference between value and cost. The PC as a whole with all of its features and capabilities has far more value than a console even though a PC will cost more. However that doesn't change the fact that the PC still does cost more, especially when the PC will be made for gaming.

So sorry I still don't think PC GAMING is cheaper. The PC does have considerably more value for its cost, but it still costs more. And if I was to say want a gaming platform I will be wanting something to game on. I could already have a laptop that can do Microsoft Word so if that were the case then the value drops for the PC. That biggest factor to me will be how much it costs. If the Xbox 360 only costs $300 (or $200 for the cheaper model) and to build a gaming PC would be from $600+ and I want it specifically for gaming and not much else than yeah that is definitely going to influence my decision.

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#46 saruman354
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Wow didn't knew it got a multiplayer - rofl after fans releasing multi modes for Oblivion and San Andreas - game devs actually listen for their fans - awesome news, and game just looks fantastic - really makes me wanna upgrade my rig to run it maxPredatorRules
Sorry bud. The thread title is a little misleading and just means that the interview discusses multiplayer. Todd Howard says straight up that Skyrim will not have multiplayer.
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#47 GeryGo  Moderator
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[QUOTE="PredatorRules"]Wow didn't knew it got a multiplayer - rofl after fans releasing multi modes for Oblivion and San Andreas - game devs actually listen for their fans - awesome news, and game just looks fantastic - really makes me wanna upgrade my rig to run it maxsaruman354
Sorry bud. The thread title is a little misleading and just means that the interview discusses multiplayer. Todd Howard says straight up that Skyrim will not have multiplayer.

oh, well then it's up for us PC gamers to start modding it ;)
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How about modability? If it's as moddable as morrowind and oblivion then why would we need DLC's? Often the modding community brings out better quality stuff then the people that get paid for the job.
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#49 madmenno
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[QUOTE="Remmib"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Really because I haven't spent $60 for a 360 game for a long time and i'm not buying 4 year old games either. The cost of buying the platform is more expensive on the PC side (even without monitor because that would be like saying everyone that buys a console buys a tv with it...). The costs for buying games will be higher on consoles (unless you don't use steam or other digital stores), but not to the amount you said.Agent_Kaliaver

PC gaming is cheaper.

How exactly are you typing on this forum? Oh wait you had to buy a computer...that was at least $400 (for something that isn't a complete turd). Add $300 or so to that $400 you would have to pay for a computer anyway - and you have a $700 budget to build a gaming computer that can do everything and more. Add on top of that factor vastly cheaper games and you have a winning platform. Oh and monitors are cheaper than TVs, just thought I'd throw that out there too.

So you assume I am using a PC (which I am). I could just as easily be using a phone or the PS3 and possibly the Wii.

PC GAMING is cheaper when it comes to buying the games, but not the platform. Do not try to throw in the extra things PCs can do that do not even effect its gaming capabilities. When we compare each platform as a GAMING device (I keep emphasizing that because that is what you originally said) then no the PC isn't actually cheaper (unless it comes to games).

Yes PCs do come with many extra features, but if you were to buy or upgrade a PC as a gaming machine, and solely a gaming machine (I know people that do, and while there are reasons to upgrade your PC a big one is gaming, because most likely you won't upgrade for a newest Microsoft Word) then it again isn't cheaper.

Also there is a difference between value and cost. The PC as a whole with all of its features and capabilities has far more value than a console even though a PC will cost more. However that doesn't change the fact that the PC still does cost more, especially when the PC will be made for gaming.

So sorry I still don't think PC GAMING is cheaper. The PC does have considerably more value for its cost, but it still costs more. And if I was to say want a gaming platform I will be wanting something to game on. I could already have a laptop that can do Microsoft Word so if that were the case then the value drops for the PC. That biggest factor to me will be how much it costs. If the Xbox 360 only costs $300 (or $200 for the cheaper model) and to build a gaming PC would be from $600+ and I want it specifically for gaming and not much else than yeah that is definitely going to influence my decision.

I recently bought a new PC for 420 euro (Case, HDD, MB, CPU, RAM, GPU, fan and unless you rage often and slam your monitor/mouse/keyboard you won't need those, you can also hookup your PC to your LCD tv nowadays). It's pretty much a beast although some might disagree as theres always something faster and above your price class to buy. But i ensure you i can play 99% of all the upcomming titles on max settings. A new console, when it's just released is around 400 euro. That means we have spent the same amount of money if we both buy 2 games.

Yes a console (just quickly checked Xbox) costs around 250-300 euro nowadays. But i could have easily bought a PC with better hardware then the xbox has in it for less then that. I know it's a never ending discussion, but i am stunned by the fact people think console gaming is cheaper. Unless you ONLY just play 1 or 2 games then a console might be cheaper. But take a game like league of legends, completely free great game heck, you can even play everquest 2, lotr online, D&D online, for free nowadays if you want too. Get oblivion from a bargain bin and with the **** load of free and open source content you can get busy for ages. Wut...?? microsoft office? i rather use open office. I can go on for a while but the fact is those 20 bucks are easily compensated by all the great communities out there.

AND.... you need a PC anyway nowadays.....

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Can't wait to try it. I just hope its more polished than the last game.