New RTS Games?

Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

way2funny

*Leaves thread*

Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

way2funny

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

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Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

Assimilat0r

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

Ive tried warhammer 40: dawn of war, it just seems like ive exhausted my RTS possibilities, and the only thing people talk about is starcraft 2, which is a great game, but yeah seems hard to find just a new rts thats not starcraft or total war

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[QUOTE="way2funny"]

Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

way2funny

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

Ive tried warhammer 40: dawn of war, it just seems like ive exhausted my RTS possibilities, and the only thing people talk about is starcraft 2, which is a great game, but yeah seems hard to find just a new rts thats not starcraft or total war

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[QUOTE="Assimilat0r"]

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

Toxic-Seahorse

Ive tried warhammer 40: dawn of war, it just seems like ive exhausted my RTS possibilities, and the only thing people talk about is starcraft 2, which is a great game, but yeah seems hard to find just a new rts thats not starcraft or total war

Thanks I'll look into that, i havent herd of that game yet. How do you guys feel about sins of a solar empire?

eidt: oh wow sins of a solar empire has a demo, thats impressive, downloading it now

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Ive tried warhammer 40: dawn of war, it just seems like ive exhausted my RTS possibilities, and the only thing people talk about is starcraft 2, which is a great game, but yeah seems hard to find just a new rts thats not starcraft or total war

way2funny

Thanks I'll look into that, i havent herd of that game yet. How do you guys feel about sins of a solar empire?

Have you tried World in Conflict or Wargame: European Escalation?

Those are some of my favorite RTS games, they're pretty fun...

Well, total war is a hybrid of both rts and tbs. The tbs section is managing your cities/provinces, conduction diplomacy, making armies, constructing buildings, etc. The RTS part is when you go into a battle with someone else. It can be either land, sea (newer games), siege (ex. against a castle) and in the new Shogun 2 expansion, Fall of the Samurai, port sieges. kris9031998

Yeah, i know ive played total war before, just not my cup of tea. But i will look into world in conflict, just downloaded sins of the solar empire demos

Sins of a solar empire is absolutely fantastic, i just cant play i anymore because games take days to complete. That doesnt go well when you are a daddy! If you want to broaden horizons to more strategy type games the Anno games(dawn of discovery) and anno 2070 or whatever it is called are great and have rpg elements. Theres always civ 5 which is great as well. ankor77

I love city building games, dawn of discovery was amazing, but im looking for a game i can play with my buddy(s) and i dont remember dawn of discovery having multiplayer

AOE online, once you get past the cartoony graphics its that aoe you love

I miss the mid to late 90's for the RTS genre. Those were the days. There were your blockbusters like Total Annihilation, Warcraft 1-2, Age of Empires 1-2, the Command and Conquer games, and there were your lesser known but good games like Act of War, Sacrifice, Earth 2150, and Ground Control. The list goes on and on. The RTS genre today is nothing like those days. I feel so old.

Are any RTS games on Kickstarter? I might donate some money to a good one.

This year is a bit slow for strategy games, the Shogun 2 expansion Fall of the Samurai is great though.

Next year we get Company of Heroes 2 and C&C generals 2 so that should make up for it.

I miss the mid to late 90's for the RTS genre. Those were the days. There were your blockbusters like Total Annihilation, Warcraft 1-2, Age of Empires 1-2, the Command and Conquer games, and there were your lesser known but good games like Act of War, Sacrifice, Earth 2150, and Ground Control. The list goes on and on. The RTS genre today is nothing like those days. I feel so old.

Are any RTS games on Kickstarter? I might donate some money to a good one.

Falconoffury

I suppose if you really liked Company Heroes I would recommend Men of War: Assault Squad. It's realistic like CoH but it takes the realism and micromanagement to another level. For example: all units have an inventory with weapons, ammo, equipment. Units have a limited amount of ammo, vehicles need fuel, etc. It's a fun but challenging game.

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Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

JohnF111

*Leaves thread*

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Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

Assimilat0r

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

way2funny

End of Nations will launch soon. That might be similar to the games you mentioned.

We've got Company of Heroes 2 and C&C Generals 2 slated for early 2013. Toxic-Seahorse

This, oh boy this. Along with the SCII additions.

Generals 2 at the top of that list for me, then SCII (yet to play it) and COH 2. All sequels to fantastic games.

End of Nations will launch soon. That might be similar to the games you mentioned.

G-Lord

This is great news. I am awaiting it for a long time. The END OF NATION is very intersting RTS Game. I have watch the video review of this game. After watching it my interest on this game has doubled.

If you like space, and you want something new, check out Star Ruler.

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Hey, Im into RTSs but it seems like its not as big as it use to be. Theres starcraft 2, that relatively new, but not too much. And Im really not into the total war series.

age of empires
rise of nations (one of my favs)
starcfrat/warcraft
Company of Heroes/ Dawn of wars
Sup Commander / C&Cs

Is Rts fading away with console multiplats plagueing PCs? Am i just missing any RTSs ? I have no idea

gunmaster55555

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

If you like space, and you want something new, check out Star Ruler.

xLittlekillx

Hmm, never heard of it, I think I might check it out, thx for the recommendation.

EDIT: I watched the video, looks like a supreme commander esque space RTS. :) Its definitely going on my Steam Wishlist.

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Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

DanielDust

That's just as absurd as the other guy's statement. If anything, I think Blizzard has perfected the small scale old-school RTS format, and has thus actually helped the genre by stemming the need for more of those kind of strategy games.

[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="gunmaster55555"] How has blizzard ruined RTS? roflxLittlekillx

That's just as absurd as the other guy's statement. If anything, I think Blizzard has perfected the small scale old-school RTS format, and has thus actually helped the genre by stemming the need for more of those kind of strategy games.

Try AI War: Fleet Command.

World in Conflict.

Games awesome, Takes date back to 1970's i think. Give it a look

[QUOTE="gunmaster55555"][QUOTE="Assimilat0r"]

Try warhammer 40 k. And EA , Blizzard already ruined whole genre of RTS.

DanielDust

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"] They make everyone look bad with the quality of their games, nobody else is able to come even close, it makes the entire RTS genre seem in ruins.DanielDust

That's just as absurd as the other guy's statement. If anything, I think Blizzard has perfected the small scale old-school RTS format, and has thus actually helped the genre by stemming the need for more of those kind of strategy games.

That's one of the dumbest, most ignorant things I've ever seen a supposed pc gamer say.

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That's just as absurd as the other guy's statement. If anything, I think Blizzard has perfected the small scale old-school RTS format, and has thus actually helped the genre by stemming the need for more of those kind of strategy games.

xLittlekillx

That's one of the dumbest, most ignorant things I've ever seen a supposed pc gamer say.

You're either too young to understand the maning of the words you used or a complete ignorant that is out to flame, judging from what I saw around here in the past year, you're both.

That comment of yours is mindblowingly idiotic, carry on.

You're either too young to understand the maning of the words you used or a complete ignorant that is out to flame, judging from what I saw around here in the past year, you're both.

DanielDust

xLittlekillx has a point. You said in a roundabout way that there are no "great" RTS games out there right now aside from the Starcraft games. I find that idea to be very ignorant.

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That comment of yours is mindblowingly idiotic, carry on.

You're either too young to understand the maning of the words you used or a complete ignorant that is out to flame, judging from what I saw around here in the past year, you're both.

Falconoffury

xLittlekillx has a point. You said in a roundabout way that there are no "great" RTS games out there right now aside from the Starcraft games. I find that idea to be very ignorant.

Fun =/= great

The only fun game that ever had a chance was CoH that had the most active community in any RTS except Blizz's (at least 20 times smaller than any Blizzard game made, but far more popular than anything ever created), even like that, it's wasn't a game made for great multiplayer and it sold poorly.

It's called reality, not ignorance, when people want something you give it to them, gimmicks (this so called fun in RTS) won't keep anyone (by anyone I mean the majority) interested for more than several hours.

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]

That comment of yours is mindblowingly idiotic, carry on.

You're either too young to understand the maning of the words you used or a complete ignorant that is out to flame, judging from what I saw around here in the past year, you're both.

DanielDust

xLittlekillx has a point. You said in a roundabout way that there are no "great" RTS games out there right now aside from the Starcraft games. I find that idea to be very ignorant.

Fun =/= great

The only fun game that ever had a chance was CoH that had the most active community in any RTS except Blizz's (at least 20 times smaller than any Blizzard game made, but far more popular than anything ever created), even like that, it's wasn't a game made for great multiplayer and it sold poorly.

It's called reality, not ignorance, when people want something you give it to them, gimmicks (this so called fun in RTS) won't keep anyone (by anyone I mean the majority) interested for more than several hours.

There have been many great, fun RTS, that were great games besides Starcraft:roll: (though I will say for online, it was the most competitive and longest lasting community for an RTS, that I know of)

Total Annhilation

Most of the C&C games

WIC

COH

Supreme Commander.

You don't have to like them, or think that they are great games, but many people do, and thats the point.

TA is a niche game liked for the only reason the as extremely niche title Supreme Commander was liked, they were both mediocre at best as games and WiC is an RTT as for the C&C series they all blow hard, except the RA series, but they still aren't a complete package and are overall just "decent".

I like them all, but I don't bow down to them, because they all lack a lot or quite a few things, "few" people love them (a few more love EA RTSs), but that's besides the point, the only point that's relevant is that almost all people want games like Starcraft and Warcraft and that's why they sell and have extremely active communities, they're all around superb products, a feature won't sell a game and it won't make its flaws less relevant (TA and SupCom) and similar games that lack multiplayer quality (any RTS besides Blizz's, no matter how you don't like it, it's a fact) and adding "chance" into an RTS will never make it popular in both sales and community (any Relic game, CoH was a one time only).

There are only three companies that make great RTSs and (3 because you added...) RTTs.

Blizzard makes the best and only relevant (quality wise) RTSs (call it ignorance or what you want, they're not the only RTSs I play, but that much is a fact).

Massive Entertainment made the best RTT series and to a small degree Relic with their DoW 2 game (not series).

Just gonna have to disagree with ^^. The games I listed were great games, I think so, others do to.

You don't think so, there will be others to think like you on it.

Bottom line is that there are plenty of people who thought they were great games. Which actually doesn't really need your validation.

So at this point, I disagree, and will have fun playing all sorts of great RTS games, and wait for some to come.

So greatness is all about sales numbers and the competitive scene for the game. I define greatness in gaming very differently, but to each their own I guess. I found that many great games in many genres had poor sales. They became cult classics years later.

as for the C&C series they all blow hard, except the RA series, but they still aren't a complete package and are overall just "decent"DanielDust

C&C

Sins of a Solar Empire

Company of Heroes

Supreme Commander

All better than StarCraft 2, and I own StarCraft 2 so I'm not bashing a game I don't own. If anything, StarCraft just took the C&C formula and dumbed down the resource gathering. Yeah, what game is better is subjective, but you're acting like everyone thinks the way you do, and that's simply not true at all.

TA is a niche game liked for the only reason the as extremely niche title Supreme Commander was liked, they were both mediocre at best as games and WiC is an RTT as for the C&C series they all blow hard, except the RA series, but they still aren't a complete package and are overall just "decent".

I like them all, but I don't bow down to them, because they all lack a lot or quite a few things, "few" people love them (a few more love EA RTSs), but that's besides the point, the only point that's relevant is that almost all people want games like Starcraft and Warcraft and that's why they sell and have extremely active communities, they're all around superb products, a feature won't sell a game and it won't make its flaws less relevant (TA and SupCom) and similar games that lack multiplayer quality (any RTS besides Blizz's, no matter how you don't like it, it's a fact) and adding "chance" into an RTS will never make it popular in both sales and community (any Relic game, CoH was a one time only).

There are only three companies that make great RTSs and (3 because you added...) RTTs.

Blizzard makes the best and only relevant (quality wise) RTSs (call it ignorance or what you want, they're not the only RTSs I play, but that much is a fact).

Massive Entertainment made the best RTT series and to a small degree Relic with their DoW 2 game (not series).

DanielDust

I actually legitimately don't get why SC2 is so popular. What does it do to innovate? What does it do that makes it funner than any other RTS? Is it really only popular to be popular? Like did tons of people buy it because they are Blizzvision fanboys, and then tons more people buy it because tons of people bought it? Or do people actually enjoy it?creaturemagic

I agree with you here. The video games industry is weird that way. It seems like when a company or game franchise is on top, the second place is way far down the totem pole. You see that with any game released by Blizzard, and you see it with Call of Duty. Then there are plenty of other games that are better than half as good, but don't sell even half the amount.

TA is a niche game liked for the only reason the as extremely niche title Supreme Commander was liked, they were both mediocre at best as games and WiC is an RTT as for the C&C series they all blow hard, except the RA series, but they still aren't a complete package and are overall just "decent".

I like them all, but I don't bow down to them, because they all lack a lot or quite a few things, "few" people love them (a few more love EA RTSs), but that's besides the point, the only point that's relevant is that almost all people want games like Starcraft and Warcraft and that's why they sell and have extremely active communities, they're all around superb products, a feature won't sell a game and it won't make its flaws less relevant (TA and SupCom) and similar games that lack multiplayer quality (any RTS besides Blizz's, no matter how you don't like it, it's a fact) and adding "chance" into an RTS will never make it popular in both sales and community (any Relic game, CoH was a one time only).

There are only three companies that make great RTSs and (3 because you added...) RTTs.

Blizzard makes the best and only relevant (quality wise) RTSs (call it ignorance or what you want, they're not the only RTSs I play, but that much is a fact).

Massive Entertainment made the best RTT series and to a small degree Relic with their DoW 2 game (not series).

DanielDust

It's like you're trying to make everybody discredit your opinion.

TA is a niche game liked for the only reason the as extremely niche title Supreme Commander was liked, they were both mediocre at best as games and WiC is an RTT as for the C&C series they all blow hard, except the RA series, but they still aren't a complete package and are overall just "decent".

I like them all, but I don't bow down to them, because they all lack a lot or quite a few things, "few" people love them (a few more love EA RTSs), but that's besides the point, the only point that's relevant is that almost all people want games like Starcraft and Warcraft and that's why they sell and have extremely active communities, they're all around superb products, a feature won't sell a game and it won't make its flaws less relevant (TA and SupCom) and similar games that lack multiplayer quality (any RTS besides Blizz's, no matter how you don't like it, it's a fact) and adding "chance" into an RTS will never make it popular in both sales and community (any Relic game, CoH was a one time only).

There are only three companies that make great RTSs and (3 because you added...) RTTs.

Blizzard makes the best and only relevant (quality wise) RTSs (call it ignorance or what you want, they're not the only RTSs I play, but that much is a fact).

Massive Entertainment made the best RTT series and to a small degree Relic with their DoW 2 game (not series).

DanielDust

Niche? I'd hope you'd realise had any of those other RTSs from the mid to late 90s had a service like battlenet that your precious starcraft wouldn't be near what it is today.

[QUOTE="creaturemagic"]I actually legitimately don't get why SC2 is so popular. What does it do to innovate? What does it do that makes it funner than any other RTS? Is it really only popular to be popular? Like did tons of people buy it because they are Blizzvision fanboys, and then tons more people buy it because tons of people bought it? Or do people actually enjoy it?Toxic-Seahorse

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="creaturemagic"]I actually legitimately don't get why SC2 is so popular. What does it do to innovate? What does it do that makes it funner than any other RTS? Is it really only popular to be popular? Like did tons of people buy it because they are Blizzvision fanboys, and then tons more people buy it because tons of people bought it? Or do people actually enjoy it?Ravenshout

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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] When released way back StarCraft had an online system like no other RTS. StarCraft 2 is only successful because of the online system StarCraft 1 had. People bought it just because they played StarCraft a lot. The games have nothing innovative in them. They just copied the Command & Conquer formula and dumbed down the resource gathering. Toxic-Seahorse