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#1 wklzip
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ATI Radeon HD 4670 review

So then dudes and dudettes, you'll agree with me that AMD's ATI division is certainly on a roll lately. Today we are testing their new entry level product, which quite honestly performs at pretty reasonable mid-range performance and carries a stack load of features.

See it's like this, AMD took a couple of punches over the last year and a half, and really you can see them getting back on their feet. The processor market is slowly gaining it's confidence thanks to the latest Phenom processors, their chipset market is growing and ever since the release of the 4800 series product, the ATI subdivision have very large smiles on their faces, and they have the intention to keep it that way. The 4800 graphics card series is however not where the biggest chunk of money is to be made for AMD. Sub 100 USD products, that's where a lot of money is made as you can save a lot of money on components and design yet make good margins and volume in that segment. So to date there have been plenty of choices in that segment products wise, but never something really interesting from a price performance point of view for the casual gamers. And today AMD is trying to 'capture that flag' as well with the release of the Radeon 4600 series.

As stated the Radeon HD 4680 will roughly offer you last year's mid-range performance at 79 USD. With that amount of performance the card will allow you to flick on 4xAA and 16AF and still play modern games at 1280x1024 and maybe even 1600x1200. And for you as a gamer on a budget, is an immensely interesting fact for your feature and framerate budget.

Today we'll show all about that polite performing product called Radeon HD 4670 .. and why am I thrilled in the opening of this review already you ask ? Again, this product sells for 79 USD - and that is roughly 60 EUR. It's a steal ...

ATI Radeon HD 4670 - Guru3D.com 2008

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Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 in Crossfire

Introduction

This might sound a bit slack, but when continuously hearing so much information of what's coming, I've literally come to the point where I no longer listen to it or process it in my head until the product is in my hot little hands.

While I had heard about the HD 4670 for a while and that it was going to be a 9500 GT DDR3 killer, I as usual didn't really process it all until just the other day when the card arrived.

What we need to find out today is how the card performs, what it offers and also what happens when we put two of these $79 USD cards together. Before we get stuck into all that, though, let's have a look at the package Sapphire has put together.

TweakTown

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Radeon HD 4670 buries 9500GT

Review: Crysis with no power connectors

The latest AMD strategy consisted of first conquering the performance market in order togain some long-lost trust in ATI's graphics cards, and since they did it with HD 4800, they moved on to the next one. Thanks to a dual GPU card known as Radeon HD 4870 X2, ATI succeeded Nvidia on the performance throne. Now all that's left are midrange and low end markets, the markets that yield the greatest profits for both companies. Sub-€100 range is currently a mess, and if you haven't done your research you'll be quite dazed and confused.

Today, AMD announced Radeon HD 4670, but this month will see another two products from HD 4600 and HD 4500 series. The latter card planned for low-end range is based on RV710, whereas the other one is, just like today's HD 4670, based on RV730 and will go to mid-range. All three cards are based on 55nm cores 2nd generation, and their main advantage is low consumption and no need for additional power. These PCIe 2.0 cards come with DX 10.1 support, thanks to a core that's a crippled version of RV770 architecture (HD 4800 series). Of course, we expect some decent gaming with the upcoming DX10.1 and Shader Model 4.1 supporting games. UVD 2 engine and Realtek's HD Audio 7.1 (integrated into the GPU silicone) are responsible for quality HD reproduction and processing capabilities.

When it comes to mid-low end segments, the price is surely an important factor and ATI claims HD 4670 should be available at €55. At this price this card is definitely a bargain, although a couple of listed HD 4670 cards were priced at unacceptable €70.

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Radeon HD 4670 is based on the RV730 core manufactured by TSMC in 55nm. It packs 320 stream processors,8 ROPs and 32 texture units. We already mentioned that RV730 is a weaker and cheaper version of RV770 architecture, and although it's cooler, it's nowhere as powerful. As far as Radeon HD 4670's features go, you'll find that they're identical to those of much pricier HD 4800 generation. Even with filters on, you should still be able to play games at 1280x1024, and maybe even higher but with filters off, of course. Just like the rest of HD 4xxx series, this card supports CrossFireX multi-GPU technology.

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AMD Radeon HD 4670: Ruling from Top to Bottom

The Radeon HD 4670 is priced at $79, which in the past hasn't really gotten you a very good gaming experience regardless of who made the chip. Today's launch is pretty interesting because the 4670 has the same number of stream processors as the Radeon HD 3870 (320), which at the time of its launch was reasonably competitive in the $180 - $200 range. Let's have a closer look at the 4670's specs:Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

Clock speeds are a bit lower and we've got much less memory bandwidth, but the hardware has some advantages. The RV730 XT is a derivative of the GPU in the 4800 series cards, and it carries over some of the benefits we saw inherent in the architecture changes. Of these, antialiasing saw a major benefit, but we also see changes like increases in cache sizes, texturing power, and z/stencil ability. We won't see performance on par with the 3870 in general, but the 4670 will do some damage in certain situations, especially if AA comes into play.

AnandTech

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The card gives an amazing power/performance ratio! Uses even less energy than the 9500gt! :shock:

edit: AnandTech review added!

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Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less.
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Ati is making a huge move, the only reason they might be held back a little bit is bc of their higher prices, compared to nvidia. Nvidia is obviously an idiotic company when it comes to marketing, they launch at a high price, then they sell things dirt cheap because their cards arent fast enough to compete. Then people buy their stuff, and ati gets owned. Very bad cycle imo
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Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. Digital_DJ_00

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

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Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

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Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

Johnny-Quest

Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

Johnny-Quest

WAR?

could you give me a link to the game?

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Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

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Yes, it should run it just fine.

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#8 JP_Russell
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[QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

wklzip

Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

Johnny-Quest

WAR?

could you give me a link to the game?

He means Warhammer Online.

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[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="Johnny-Quest"]

Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

JP_Russell

Would this run WAR if I bought it. The card isn't on the offical supported cards list, but it would still run it without any problems right?

Johnny-Quest

WAR?

could you give me a link to the game?

He means Warhammer Online.

Oh :)

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Now this is what a mainstream card should be! Good gaming performance, inexpensive, low power consumption, not even a PCI-E cable required... It looks like it should be the choice for people with low-wattage or mediocre quality power supplies, since it consumes about as much power as a 3650 with significantly better performance. Hell, I'd recommend this over a 3870, since it's almost as good at a lower cost (though the low-end enthusiast gamer should still go for at least the 8800GT).

EDIT: Plus, it's already on Newegg. Two of the three already have aftermarket coolers, strangely enough.

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Hooray for ATI :D
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Now this is what a mainstream card should be! Good gaming performance, inexpensive, low power consumption, not even a PCI-E cable required... It looks like it should be the choice for people with low-wattage or mediocre quality power supplies, since it consumes about as much power as a 3650 with significantly better performance. Hell, I'd recommend this over a 3870, since it's almost as good at a lower cost (though the low-end enthusiast gamer should still go for at least the 8800GT).

EDIT: Plus, it's already on Newegg. Two of the three already have aftermarket coolers, strangely enough.

ajkalan

Definitely going to need some rebates before one could recommend it to anyone other than those with weak PSU's. There's a 9600GT for $80 after MiR at Newegg right now, and others for not much more than that. They'd be a much better buy currently.

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AMD Radeon HD 4670: Ruling from Top to Bottom

Crysis

Enemy Territory: Quake Wars

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Age of Conan

Race Driver GRID

Race Driver GRID

Crysis High Quality

Crysis Medium (+high shade) 4xAA

The Witcher

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This is good news for my new budget pc!
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[QUOTE="ajkalan"]

Now this is what a mainstream card should be! Good gaming performance, inexpensive, low power consumption, not even a PCI-E cable required... It looks like it should be the choice for people with low-wattage or mediocre quality power supplies, since it consumes about as much power as a 3650 with significantly better performance. Hell, I'd recommend this over a 3870, since it's almost as good at a lower cost (though the low-end enthusiast gamer should still go for at least the 8800GT).

EDIT: Plus, it's already on Newegg. Two of the three already have aftermarket coolers, strangely enough.

JP_Russell

Definitely going to need some rebates before one could recommend it to anyone other than those with weak PSU's. There's a 9600GT for $80 after MiR at Newegg right now, and others for not much more than that. They'd be a much better buy currently.

Oops, forgot all about the 9600GT. Yes, that might be the best budget buy right now. If you're the kind of person who doesn't like rebates, though (like me, since it's been hit-and-miss whether I ever see the rebate come back), this new card might be a little tempting. Plus, all those power misers/HTPC users out there should take a good look at this (though the 9600GT/3850 are pretty damn good themselves with power consumption, all things considered).

Then again, I get more excited by power consumption than raw power, so maybe I'm just a freak :P

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great card !
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siiick card for a budget build

might get one for my sisters computer
its just a cheap computer for web surfing and school projects

will srsly look into and consider this

wont be doing any gaming but still better than intergrated xD

OMG, Nvidia is really failing this generation,

but X58 can do Crossfire and SLI so ill get one of those later so i can choose what ever company :P
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Radeon HD 4550 Details Surface

Later this month, AMD is expected to launch the ATI Radeon HD 4550 graphics processor (GPU). Its board SKU details have surfaced. The RV710 graphics processor will make it to the grass-root of entry-level and high-definition media grpahics boards. It is based on the 55nm silicon fabrication process. The GPU has a transistor count of 242 million, it has 80 stream processors. It is engineered in a way that makes it draw less than 25W. In the form of reference designs, AMD will release two cards: a full height, passively cooled 512 MB DDR3 version, and a low-profile, 256MB fan-heatsink cooled card. Both models have core clock speeds of 600 MHz with the memory clocked at 800 MHz on a 64-bit wide memory bus. The GPU schematic shows it to have 8 texture address and 8 texture filter units. There's only one render back-end. The 512MB variant is expected to be priced at US $49~59, while the 256MB variant in the $39~49 range. These cards are expected to compete with the GeForce 9400 GT GPU.

techPowerUp!

Putting more presure on nvidia

This card should outperform the HD3650

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[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. JP_Russell

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

not impossible but stupid..
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[QUOTE="JP_Russell"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. yoyo462001

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

not impossible but stupid..

I meant in the sense that I doubt they could fit three of the G92 dies on there. Or am I mistaken in that respect?

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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="JP_Russell"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. JP_Russell

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

not impossible but stupid..

I meant in the sense that I doubt they could fit three of the G92 dies on there. Or am I mistaken in that respect?

It would be having 3 pcb's slapped together and i bet it could be almost impossible to cool it efficiently.

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[QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="JP_Russell"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. JP_Russell

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

not impossible but stupid..

I meant in the sense that I doubt they could fit three of the G92 dies on there. Or am I mistaken in that respect?

Unlike the 4870x2(which is two gpus on one board) the 9800gx2 is two boards stuck together, so it would be very inneficients, and take up alot of room, also cooling would be a real problem.
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[QUOTE="JP_Russell"][QUOTE="yoyo462001"][QUOTE="JP_Russell"]

[QUOTE="Digital_DJ_00"]Well, ATi is certainly pumping out alot cards lately... What I'm anxious for is what Nvidia is gonna do to counter ATi. I'm thinking GeForce 9800 Ultra, GeForce GTX260+, or possibly a GeForce 9800 GX3. I'm sure we'll see another Nvidia card released before the end of the year none of the less. albi321

We already know of an upgraded 260 in the works (has more stream processors than the regular). A 9800 Ultra wouldn't make sense, and I'm quite sure a 9800GX3 is impossible.

not impossible but stupid..

I meant in the sense that I doubt they could fit three of the G92 dies on there. Or am I mistaken in that respect?

Unlike the 4870x2(which is two gpus on one board) the 9800gx2 is two boards stuck together, so it would be very inneficients, and take up alot of room, also cooling would be a real problem.

Oh, didn't know that. So it's "possible," but so impractical that it may as well be impossible.