Next Battlefield 3 Patch will Include Color Grading OFF Option!

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#1 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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http://www.mordorhq.com/showthread.php?3318-BF3-Colour-Tweaker-what-the/page6&p=82357#post82357

There will be a console command for disabling the color grading entirely in the game included with the next PC game client update. We believe that turning it off gives no major competitive advantage/disadvantage. IRNV scope and a few others which turn the image into greyscale or greenscale don't work properly without color grading and will look real ugly. There will be no in-game UI for turning it on/off. We are unlikely to handle support questions and bug reports regarding stuff that happens when color grading is disabled. As for server settings: we are not currently planning to implement any new ones.

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#2 DanielDust
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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...
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#3 C_Rule
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Good sh*t. Will check this out when the patch goes live.
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#4 yellosnolvr
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hypocritical viewpoint, but welcome change. it only took a year..
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#5 skrat_01
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Hooray! As I said in the SW thread, I have a reason to go back to the game.
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#6 G-O-A-T
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ill def try it out

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#7 Swiftstrike5
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Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

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#8 Nick3306
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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...DanielDust
lmao they didn't ban because of the removal of the color grading. They banned because of how it was done. Before making claims please think things through.
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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...DanielDust
they threatened with bans the mod that lets you go around switching weapon values as well as turn off color grading. anyway this is really interesting, but i'd like an option to set just how much i want it off. completely off looks like crap, completely on looks too washed out. there had to be some middle ground.
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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...DanielDust

I think they were more worried about it being a 3rd party injection. DICE is still terrible with their customer service.

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...BrunoBRS
they threatened with bans the mod that lets you go around switching weapon values as well as turn off color grading. anyway this is really interesting, but i'd like an option to set just how much i want it off. completely off looks like crap, completely on looks too washed out. there had to be some middle ground.

Yeah I don't really like how it's all or nothing. A slider would be nice. Still, it's better than nothing I guess. The newer maps have far less colour grading anyway so it's only really for base maps.

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#12 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...DanielDust

They threatened bans for the BF3 tweaker. Not the BF3 colour tweaker. The tweaker allowed you to remove suppression, remove recoil and have your bullets do 100% damage per bullet at any range. Meaning your AEK could become the fastest firing gun that was effective at 3000m and killed you in one shot at the range.

The colour tweaker had no such problems as it just adjusted colours. All DICE said about that was it looked too colourful

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[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...seanmcloughlin

They threatened bans for the BF3 tweaker. Not the BF3 colour tweaker. The tweaker allowed you to remove suppression, remove recoil and have your bullets do 100% damage per bullet at any range. Meaning your AEK could become the fastest firing gun that was effective at 3000m and killed you in one shot at the range.

The colour tweaker had no such problems as it just adjusted colours. All DICE said about that was it looked too colourful

People could just use the SweetFX Injector which works fine on plenty of other games if they want to adjust colors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02QRozsJ6Cc&hd=1&t=19s
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#14 mitu123
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Most awesome news all day! Can't wait!

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="DanielDust"]Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...Zubinen

They threatened bans for the BF3 tweaker. Not the BF3 colour tweaker. The tweaker allowed you to remove suppression, remove recoil and have your bullets do 100% damage per bullet at any range. Meaning your AEK could become the fastest firing gun that was effective at 3000m and killed you in one shot at the range.

The colour tweaker had no such problems as it just adjusted colours. All DICE said about that was it looked too colourful

People could just use the SweetFX Injector which works fine on plenty of other games if they want to adjust colors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02QRozsJ6Cc&hd=1&t=19s

I use Danoc v1.25 performance but it's essentially the same thing. SweetFX is a bit too colourful in areas for my liking

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Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

Swiftstrike5
BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!
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#17 JigglyWiggly_
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why are they letting people do this bf3's artstyle and crushed colors hide the fugly so well
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#18 Swiftstrike5
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

mitu123
BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!

The hit detection was pretty damn good in BC2 and BF2142. Both had moments of frustration, but nothing like BF3... No idea why DICE decided to switch to client side hit detection mid-development, especially when the hit detection in the alpha version of BF3 was really, really good.
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

Swiftstrike5

BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!

The hit detection was pretty damn good in BC2 and BF2142. Both had moments of frustration, but nothing like BF3... No idea why DICE decided to switch to client side hit detection mid-development, especially when the hit detection in the alpha version of BF3 was really, really good.

Lol, BC2 had some of the worst hit detection too, I had to knife a guy 3-5 times to kill him and the shotgun doesn't always work and neither do headshots.

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#20 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

Swiftstrike5
BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!

The hit detection was pretty damn good in BC2 and BF2142. Both had moments of frustration, but nothing like BF3... No idea why DICE decided to switch to client side hit detection mid-development, especially when the hit detection in the alpha version of BF3 was really, really good.

BC2's hit detection was so awful. Bf3's is okay
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]

Now if only there were a magical switch to fix the awful hit detection / networking...

Swiftstrike5

BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!

The hit detection was pretty damn good in BC2 and BF2142. Both had moments of frustration, but nothing like BF3... No idea why DICE decided to switch to client side hit detection mid-development, especially when the hit detection in the alpha version of BF3 was really, really good.

You're insane to say BC2 had good hit detection. I loved BC2, but the hit detection in that game was BUSTED. Battlefield 3 has far superior hit detection.

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I wonder if having the color grading off will improve framerate by any margin.

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long overdue, but I will check it out when it gets released

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#24 psn8214
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You're insane to say BC2 had good hit detection. I loved BC2, but the hit detection in that game was BUSTED. Battlefield 3 has far superior hit detection.

JangoWuzHere

Agreed. BC2's hit detection was horrid.

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#25 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...seanmcloughlin

they threatened with bans the mod that lets you go around switching weapon values as well as turn off color grading. anyway this is really interesting, but i'd like an option to set just how much i want it off. completely off looks like crap, completely on looks too washed out. there had to be some middle ground.

Yeah I don't really like how it's all or nothing. A slider would be nice. Still, it's better than nothing I guess. The newer maps have far less colour grading anyway so it's only really for base maps.

I agree would like to adjust it to the level I want but at least they added in the option for people who wanted it.
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#26 SharkheadHD
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[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

You're insane to say BC2 had good hit detection. I loved BC2, but the hit detection in that game was BUSTED. Battlefield 3 has far superior hit detection.

psn8214

Agreed. BC2's hit detection was horrid.

For my experience it was the exact opposite :U

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#27 MyopicCanadian
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That's... very surprising. Also, excellent news! I hope other games follow suit instead of forcing certain colour options on their customers. I'm happy :D

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#28 QQabitmoar
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

You're insane to say BC2 had good hit detection. I loved BC2, but the hit detection in that game was BUSTED. Battlefield 3 has far superior hit detection.

SharkheadHD

Agreed. BC2's hit detection was horrid.

For my experience it was the exact opposite :U

From my experience of hundreds of hours in both games...I had deaths after taking cover in pretty much every BC2 match I ever played. In BF3, it happened, but once or twice a day.

And you don't want to get me started on the knifing in BC2. Air knifing facing the other way, the dude walks 5 meters then falls down and I get the knife kill. Shlt like that was everyday stuff.

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#29 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I wonder if having the color grading off will improve framerate by any margin.

SharkheadHD

It won't change the framerate even a little

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#30 Twisted14
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Don't really understand why this is such a big deal. I've always been fine with the colouring in BF3. From the video comparisons it looks nicer without the grading for sure, but I never took notice of it while playing and I still wouldn't if I was to play now. And now that it has been brought up, I had a lot of situations of poor hit detection in Bad Company 2, and nowhere near as many in BF3.
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#31 Frankenstrat247
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Oh man, thank you DICE. Now the game will look even better without that blue filtering business!

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#32 JigglyWiggly_
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Oh man, thank you DICE. Now the game will look even better without that blue filtering business!

Frankenstrat247

it's going to look worse

people here are confused

the filter hides all the low res textures very well

gross

bf3 has so few polygons and low res textures

that's why it runs so well

they just made up for it with good art style

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#33 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="Frankenstrat247"]

Oh man, thank you DICE. Now the game will look even better without that blue filtering business!

JigglyWiggly_

it's going to look worse

gross

I agree, I saw some of the videos when they first removed the color grading filter. Peoples eyes must be in wack these days, because without the color grading, the game looks AWFUL.
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#34 II-Siamak-II
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Is it too late to get into Battlefield 3? I kinda wanna play it for single player campain and some MP, I'm going to buy Black Ops 2 next month so i'll be busy with that, but for single player and occasional MP is it worth getting BF3?

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#35 JigglyWiggly_
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Is it too late to get into Battlefield 3? I kinda wanna play it for single player campain and some MP, I'm going to buy Black Ops 2 next month so i'll be busy with that, but for single player and occasional MP is it worth getting BF3?

II-Siamak-II

i just got into bf3

it's not too late just use SKS and sv98

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#36 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="II-Siamak-II"]

Is it too late to get into Battlefield 3? I kinda wanna play it for single player campain and some MP, I'm going to buy Black Ops 2 next month so i'll be busy with that, but for single player and occasional MP is it worth getting BF3?

JigglyWiggly_

i just got into bf3

it's not too late just use SKS and sv98

M417 > SKS

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[QUOTE="SharkheadHD"]

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

Agreed. BC2's hit detection was horrid.

QQabitmoar

For my experience it was the exact opposite :U

From my experience of hundreds of hours in both games...I had deaths after taking cover in pretty much every BC2 match I ever played. In BF3, it happened, but once or twice a day.

And you don't want to get me started on the knifing in BC2. Air knifing facing the other way, the dude walks 5 meters then falls down and I get the knife kill. Shlt like that was everyday stuff.

Were you playing on high ping servers? I very rarely had issues after the first couple of patches, except for the occasional crouched sniper. And, to be honest, I could care less if the CoD knife lunge was working or not. It was still miles better than the frustration caused by BF3's hit detection. I care more about having a fair playing field than having every last one of my bullets register. If I shoot someone and the server says he was behind cover, it shouldn't register. It's my fault for having a **** internet connection and/or picking a high ping server to play on.

I find it impossible to effectively take cover in BF3 simply because the hit detection favors the shooter and, if they're high ping, you're dead before the server even tells the player they're being shot. How's that fair? The whole point of having servers is to have better networking / hit detection and to level the playing field.

BF3 has the exact same issues as BC2:

Shots not registering-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMsRVi4IsS0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB3De99hquk&feature=related

Knife BS-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tIbzxtYlD4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP_XGD45WBs

Except it also has this:

Client Side Garbage-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p933kkTUNs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adfgUL5aM0I

Except for Vietnam and Heroes, I've played all the BF titles extensively and I've never been as frustrated as I am with BF3's hit detection. It's clearly a step in the wrong detection for the series. I don't even bother playing anymore because I know it'll be more frustrating that it is enjoyable.

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Interesting they threatened with bans because it breaks balance, now it's absolutely normal and ok if you want to play with it like that, pft DICE...DanielDust

yes, for shame, that DICE reconsiders a previous standpoint based on community feedback. What horrible, horrible people.

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Half the people complaining about it probably don't even play it anymore.
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#40 MyopicCanadian
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Except for Vietnam and Heroes, I've played all the BF titles extensively and I've never been as frustrated as I am with BF3's hit detection. It's clearly a step in the wrong detection for the series. I don't even bother playing anymore because I know it'll be more frustrating that it is enjoyable.

Swiftstrike5

They're all pretty horrible though. DICE is notorious for having awful hit detection, and I have the same issues in BF3 as I did BC2. The only two games I don't have issues with the hit detection in are BC2 Vietnam and BF1943. Those games both had very minimal amounts of environment destruction compared to other DICE games, so I have a feeling that's related.

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#41 mitu123
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Played several rounds of BC2 recently, hit detection is still so bad. For example I knifed a recon twice and it did nothing to him due to the slash motion and then he turns around to knife me once. I shot a medic with a shotgun 3 times and he takes no damage yet he hits me with a shotgun once and kills me. I shot an engineer with an XM8 assault rifle 1st and he still gets me somehow.

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#42 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"][QUOTE="mitu123"] BF games with perfect hit detection will never exist!JigglyWiggly_
The hit detection was pretty damn good in BC2 and BF2142. Both had moments of frustration, but nothing like BF3... No idea why DICE decided to switch to client side hit detection mid-development, especially when the hit detection in the alpha version of BF3 was really, really good.

BC2's hit detection was so awful. Bf3's is okay

No, no it isn't. Client side hit detection is just as bad.
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#43 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Frankenstrat247"]

Oh man, thank you DICE. Now the game will look even better without that blue filtering business!

JigglyWiggly_

it's going to look worse

people here are confused

the filter hides all the low res textures very well

gross

bf3 has so few polygons and low res textures

that's why it runs so well

they just made up for it with good art style

It doesn't hide anything. The low-res textures are visible with or without the color filter. BF3 looks like sh!t anyway. Nice animation and character models. Everything else looks like ass. Also can you type in English? Can you try using capital letters and periods for once? You type like an 8 year old that just discovered the internet.
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#44 DanielDust
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What a troll, first time seeing Jiggly writing in common English this month and you're annoyed by it, it's like you're not even trying these days, as bad as having an yellow trollface for your avatar an signature I guess.
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#45 nutcrackr
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Played several rounds of BC2 recently, hit detection is still so bad. For example I knifed a recon twice and it did nothing to him due to the slash motion and then he turns around to knife me once. I shot a medic with a shotgun 3 times and he takes no damage yet he hits me with a shotgun once and kills me. I shot an engineer with an XM8 assault rifle 1st and he still gets me somehow.

mitu123
BC2 knife has been broken for a very long time, people look back at BC2 with rose tinted glasses.
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#46 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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What a troll, first time seeing Jiggly writing in common English this month and you're annoyed by it, it's like you're not even trying these days, as bad as having an yellow trollface for your avatar an signature I guess.DanielDust

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#47 Toxic-Seahorse
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Played several rounds of BC2 recently, hit detection is still so bad. For example I knifed a recon twice and it did nothing to him due to the slash motion and then he turns around to knife me once. I shot a medic with a shotgun 3 times and he takes no damage yet he hits me with a shotgun once and kills me. I shot an engineer with an XM8 assault rifle 1st and he still gets me somehow.

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BC2 knife has been broken for a very long time, people look back at BC2 with rose tinted glasses.

I still had way more fun with BC2 than I did with BF3.
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[QUOTE="nutcrackr"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Played several rounds of BC2 recently, hit detection is still so bad. For example I knifed a recon twice and it did nothing to him due to the slash motion and then he turns around to knife me once. I shot a medic with a shotgun 3 times and he takes no damage yet he hits me with a shotgun once and kills me. I shot an engineer with an XM8 assault rifle 1st and he still gets me somehow.

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BC2 knife has been broken for a very long time, people look back at BC2 with rose tinted glasses.

I still had way more fun with BC2 than I did with BF3.

Yeah I got Vietnam in that EA blunder recently and decided I wanted to go back to BC2 cos I hadn't played it since getting used to PC controls. But man it's such a different game. Some ways I like it a whole lot more than BF3 and some ways I don't. The maps in BC2 are far superior to BF3 but the gunplay of BF3 is better. I would love the maps and overall atmosphere of BC2 with the visuals and gunplay of BF3

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[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="nutcrackr"] BC2 knife has been broken for a very long time, people look back at BC2 with rose tinted glasses. seanmcloughlin

I still had way more fun with BC2 than I did with BF3.

Yeah I got Vietnam in that EA blunder recently and decided I wanted to go back to BC2 cos I hadn't played it since getting used to PC controls. But man it's such a different game. Some ways I like it a whole lot more than BF3 and some ways I don't. The maps in BC2 are far superior to BF3 but the gunplay of BF3 is better. I would love the maps and overall atmosphere of BC2 with the visuals and gunplay of BF3

Yeah I totally agree. BC2 had some awesome maps and I liked the look of the game much better than BF3.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] I still had way more fun with BC2 than I did with BF3. Toxic-Seahorse

Yeah I got Vietnam in that EA blunder recently and decided I wanted to go back to BC2 cos I hadn't played it since getting used to PC controls. But man it's such a different game. Some ways I like it a whole lot more than BF3 and some ways I don't. The maps in BC2 are far superior to BF3 but the gunplay of BF3 is better. I would love the maps and overall atmosphere of BC2 with the visuals and gunplay of BF3

Yeah I totally agree. BC2 had some awesome maps and I liked the look of the game much better than BF3.

There's also a bigger feeling of actual battle I think. Like take port valdez as an example on rush. When you come in as an attacker in your parachute and all those air rounds are going off around you as you come down and then everyone hopes in vehicles and full on assaults the capture points. It's a very powerful experience. Then you have the failure or success cinematics at the end of the round that looked cool and added a little extra something. It just felt better overall somehow. BF3 feels very cold sometimes and a bit disconnected, you don't feel part of a bigger battle