No DRM for The Sims 3!

No DRM for the Sims 3 confirmed.

I guess the whole Spore Fiasco actually resulted in something good. This is a big + for me.

The only reason theyre doing this because they can. Everyone and their mom is going to buy Sims 3. Its teen-friendly, wholesome, appeals to all. Theyre gonna sell 50 million copies easy.

Dont be fooled, theyre gonna keep DRM on everything else.

Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

Great news!

The only reason theyre doing this because they can. Everyone and their mom is going to buy Sims 3. Its teen-friendly, wholesome, appeals to all. Theyre gonna sell 50 million copies easy.

Dont be fooled, theyre gonna keep DRM on everything else.

mrbojangles25

Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

Holy heart failure Batman! This is great! The outcry from spore actually worked. Also, not to be a kill joy, but It will have DRM. They have the right to manage their digital rights. It's Secure-Rom that was the bad thing.

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Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

justheretodl124

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Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

I'm taking this straight from FrogBoy's (aka Brad Wardell, owner of Stardock) blog on Impulse:

"Piracy is a joke. Freaking out about piracy is what executives who don't actually play games do. Piracy is real. Lots of people play pirated games. But the % of them who would have purchased the game is nil..."

I think he's exaggerating a bit, but I believe that most pirates wouldn't purchase a game unless they really like it. In fact, some pirates actually do go on to buy the games they pirate.

Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

Not to get off topic, but are you in any way related to OoSuperMarioO? Are we going to be seeing OoBrowserO or OoPrincessPeachO anytime soon?

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[QUOTE="justheretodl124"] Gamespot isn't live journal maybe you should cry somewhere else. Here's a shocker not everyone who pirates a game would have purchased it if piracy was not an option. And another shocker! Piracy isn't killing pc gaming people like you are, people who will buy such low quality crappy games that just rehash the same game every month to resell back to you at full price.BlueBirdTS

I'm taking this straight from FrogBoy's (aka Brad Wardell, owner of Stardock) blog on Impulse:

"Piracy is a joke. Freaking out about piracy is what executives who don't actually play games do. Piracy is real. Lots of people play pirated games. But the % of them who would have purchased the game is nil..."

I think he's exaggerating a bit, but I believe that most pirates wouldn't purchase a game unless they really like it. In fact, some pirates actually do go on to buy the games they pirate.

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The only reason theyre doing this because they can. Everyone and their mom is going to buy Sims 3. Its teen-friendly, wholesome, appeals to all. Theyre gonna sell 50 million copies easy.

Dont be fooled, theyre gonna keep DRM on everything else.

07pops07

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Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

For companies like EA I couldn't care less, they deserved it with Spore (another low quality game with lots of expansions, they should stick to Sims) and I'm still waiting for that revoke tool for Mass Effect >_>.

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Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

BlueBirdTS

Not to get off topic, but are you in any way related to OoSuperMarioO? Are we going to be seeing OoBrowserO or OoPrincessPeachO anytime soon?

Lugi is my apprentice. The force is strong with this one..

Bioware said the same thing about Mass Effect IIRC before the whole 10 day activation thing. I'm gonna wait since EA has lied in the past.

The only reason theyre doing this because they can. Everyone and their mom is going to buy Sims 3. Its teen-friendly, wholesome, appeals to all. Theyre gonna sell 50 million copies easy.

Dont be fooled, theyre gonna keep DRM on everything else.

mrbojangles25

Bioware said the same thing about Mass Effect IIRC before the whole 10 day activation thing. I'm gonna wait since EA has lied in the past.

Whiteblade999

They said nothing about DRM, just that they will use a new EA system and they ended up with that "thing" thanks to the community we managed to get another great thing, limited installations.

Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

I think you are wrong because DRM only affects the second hand game market, the legitimate copies. It has little effect on regular piracy, the cracked games. Look at Spore and Mass Effect. They got cracked and pirated like crazy. The Sims series is very popular, so DRM or not, it will get pirated like crazy either way.

[QUOTE="Makari"]Jesus. Guys, this isn't 'No DRM.' This is 'No online activation DRM.' They're still keeping SecuROM 7, in all likelihood... especially the part where he referred to using the same protection that the Sims 2 did, where they switched to SecuROM on Sims 2 about halfway through the game's life.paullywog

Personally, SecuROM bothers me a lot more than DRM does (not saying DRM doesn't bother me, it does).

[QUOTE="paullywog"][QUOTE="Makari"]Jesus. Guys, this isn't 'No DRM.' This is 'No online activation DRM.' They're still keeping SecuROM 7, in all likelihood... especially the part where he referred to using the same protection that the Sims 2 did, where they switched to SecuROM on Sims 2 about halfway through the game's life.BlueBirdTS

Personally, SecuROM bothers me a lot more than DRM does (not saying DRM doesn't bother me, it does).

I'll admit that in practice DRM does not affect me just like in practice the 2nd amendment does not affect me personally. However, it's what DRM represents that bothers me.

On the other hand, SecuROM does affect me in practice.

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Personally, SecuROM bothers me a lot more than DRM does (not saying DRM doesn't bother me, it does).

OoSuperMarioO

Nope, it was actually worse, before that, the game had to check if you have an original copy every 10 days and even more, if it couldn't to that, the DRM would have rendered it useless until you contacted EA support, not Bioware support, since the lame (taken over by EA) Bioware staff, would just give you a link to EA support >_>, because it isn't up to them and it isn't their job to provide technical support for the game (yeah right). They said nothing about DRM, just that they will use a new EA system and they ended up with that "thing" thanks to the community we managed to get another great thing, limited installations.DanielDust

this is a very good thing, keep improving ea

Well its certainly is a relief to hear. I'd have thought that the Spore fiasco would have grinded them to a halt sooner then this though. >_>

No online activation is great.

What's DRM?Dogswithguns

Digital Rights Management

Sorry to burst your guys bubble but

"It turns out that EA was potentially not being entirely honest about Securom on Sims 3 yesterday. One of our members investigated the Sims 3 EULA which clearly states that the game will come with the EADM included and that all game updates will be obtained through that portal. Now as the EADM (EA Download Manager) updates itself and includes Securom, this would mean that EA would be reinstalling Securom on your game by stealth.

The obvious question is, will the EADM still include Securom? Because if so, EA was not tellilng us the truth yesterday when they told us the game would not include Securom. We will be asking more questions and will let you know when information comes to hand."

EULA is here http://www.ea.com/portal/pdf/legal/EULA-TheSims3-Retail-3-22-09.pdf

lol. This has nothing to do with piracy. They are going to implement micro-transactions. Basically, its gonna bea spore like setup, just without the double activation. I.e. spore required you to activate, and then u had to create an account that used up the key. They removed the software activation on Spore because, A) it was redundant and B) the DRM prevented legit customers from enjoying the software fully. They don't care about the base game, because in the long run they are gonna make tons of cash selling DLC. Since you still need a legit code to make an online account, allowing the base game to be copied is win win for them. First, you don't have access to all the goodies, since much of it will be stuff developed after release. Two, if you do like it, you still gotta buy the game to get a code and make an account. Without the online component (which requires the code to use), the game will be very limited in scope. Its sorta like a mini-mmo. They are going to have online cities where you can have your house and visit with other people. Its going to be a social type game, much like Second Life. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a Steamlike service, where you have to tie the game to your account to play it. Spore was an experiment in comparison to Sims 3.

So in short, its not a big deal about Sims 3 and DRM. They aren't doing this for us. They did not suddenly listen to us. Of course, they are going to spin the PR and make it sound like they are doing us a faver. Don't allow yourself to be duped.

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Eager to see the piracy data for Sims 3 with the strategy to remove DRM. One step closer to prove pirates just make excuses.

OoLugioO

lol. This has nothing to do with piracy. They are going to implement micro-transactions. Basically, its gonna bea spore like setup, just without the double activation. I.e. spore required you to activate, and then u had to create an account that used up the key. They removed the software activation on Spore because, A) it was redundant and B) the DRM prevented legit customers from enjoying the software fully. They don't care about the base game, because in the long run they are gonna make tons of cash selling DLC. Since you still need a legit code to make an online account, allowing the base game to be copied is win win for them. First, you don't have access to all the goodies, since much of it will be stuff developed after release. Two, if you do like it, you still gotta buy the game to get a code and make an account. Without the online component (which requires the code to use), the game will be very limited in scope. Its sorta like a mini-mmo. They are going to have online cities where you can have your house and visit with other people. Its going to be a social type game, much like Second Life. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they have a Steamlike service, where you have to tie the game to your account to play it. Spore was an experiment in comparison to Sims 3.

So in short, its not a big deal about Sims 3 and DRM. They aren't doing this for us. They did not suddenly listen to us. Of course, they are going to spin the PR and make it sound like they are doing us a faver. Don't allow yourself to be duped.

stele29

Ah!Greatest news ever!Kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Pre-order it now.

No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

MagusAugury

Is it confirmed that there's no SecuROM?

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No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

BlueBirdTS

Is it confirmed that there's no SecuROM?

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No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

Makari

Is it confirmed that there's no SecuROM?

That's what I though. I wouldn't want to go around spreading FUD.

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No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

Makari

Is it confirmed that there's no SecuROM?

That's what I though. I wouldn't want to go around spreading misinformation.

Everyone and their mom is going to buy Sims 3. mrbojangles25

Not me, not my mom, not even my dog. Can't stand the Sims.

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No DRM, SecuROM etc. = SOLD! PRe Ordering...

BlueBirdTS

Is it confirmed that there's no SecuROM?