I prefer games that are single player only anyway. If I want to play multiplayer, I'm going to play a multiplayer focused game. I don't see the need AT ALL for every game to have multiplayer. I simply will not touch it when I can be putting my time into funner games that focus on multiplayer like Halo, TF2, and CS.
[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"]I prefer games that are single player only anyway. If I want to play multiplayer, I'm going to play a multiplayer focused game. I don't see the need AT ALL for every game to have multiplayer. I simply will not touch it when I can be putting my time into funner games that focus on multiplayer like Halo, TF2, and CS. At the end of the day, you can just play the SP Campaign and forget about the MP, problem is that some games just aren't meant for MP so it's gonna impact the development cycle of the SP Campaign.
I'm not surprised, games have been leaning toward online and MP for years. I, myself, prefer SP. Even with MMO's, I mostly do PvE. With that said, the thing I'm mostly concerned about (specifically with EA) is Simcity online. I'm ok with having a world wide economies or whatever they called it. However, I also want the option of not being connected. I'd like to be able to pause, take time with my city, and manage in some sort of controlled environment. Maybe I'll want to take a break for a few months from the game... how would my city be affected with a constantly moving economy? I'm a bit curious how they'd get around that.
I remember Gabe Newell saying something similar around a year ago. He said that Valve will probably never make a completely offline single-player game again.
This has certainly been EA's focus for a while now. For some reason they're convinced that gamers hate single player. They're all about adding that online social connectivity buzzword stuff into their games because they think that we're really into that. They think that we use video games as a substitute for meeting people in social environments. Look at what they're doing to SimCity.
Meanwhile, all we really want are good games that are fun to play.
I don't really see the problem, it's not like he's saying they will make all SP games MP and ruin them (like they are doing with Dead Space 3), he's just saying they will have online components such as social features etc...it's a pretty broad declaration. I'm sure one of the main reason's they are doing this is so they can have an always online DMR that is justified. Personally I'd rather have no DMR but it's so easy to pirate game's these days I can understand why more and more companies are including these features.
[QUOTE="Croag821"]I don't really see the problem, it's not like he's saying they will make all SP games MP and ruin them (like they are doing with Dead Space 3), he's just saying they will have online components such as social features etc...it's a pretty broad declaration. I'm sure one of the main reason's they are doing this is so they can have an always online DMR that is justified. Personally I'd rather have no DMR but it's so easy to pirate game's these days I can understand why more and more companies are including these features. Problem is development time and cycles. When you have to develop (or even slap on) MP to SP games, then you have less development time for the SP experience, which results in a more buggy (less tested) not as polished campaign.
This is just the major trend in gaming. MP is the new standerd. With the success of Cod, BF, LOL, and the list goes on. Everyone wants a chunk and a majority of gamers want it. The problem is MP is tacked on for many sp games, Spec OPs, Bioshock, and once again the list goes on. It the new focus of gaming and we will have to live with it.
But then do they mean every game will have some PVP, or PVE mode, or is every game shipping with Online Co-op.
They fail to realize that the most popular online games are the ones that are actually developed. There's a reason Bioshock 2 never had a following. There's a reason no one bought Singularity for the multiplayer.
Even AC: Brotherhood only had the multiplayer out of obligation. It doesn't resemble the gameplay of the singleplayer at all about 97% of the time. (And they say that 83% of statistics are made up...)
I don't really see the problem, it's not like he's saying they will make all SP games MP and ruin them (like they are doing with Dead Space 3), he's just saying they will have online components such as social features etc...it's a pretty broad declaration. I'm sure one of the main reason's they are doing this is so they can have an always online DMR that is justified. Personally I'd rather have no DMR but it's so easy to pirate game's these days I can understand why more and more companies are including these features.Croag821
Except that none of the DRM crap has ever even made a dent in alleged piracy rates. Thats why ubisoft is abandoning their Online DRM.
This is just the major trend in gaming. MP is the new standerd. With the success of Cod, BF, LOL, and the list goes on. Everyone wants a chunk and a majority of gamers want it. The problem is MP is tacked on for many sp games, Spec OPs, Bioshock, and once again the list goes on. It the new focus of gaming and we will have to live with it.
But then do they mean every game will have some PVP, or PVE mode, or is every game shipping with Online Co-op.
James161324
I'm sure they'll just take any game that has an action focus, with combat of some kind, and throw in some terrible half-assed deathmatch.
trying to think of the last game from EA i cared... BF3. bought it for the multiplayer, so not affected on that. before that... burnout paradise? and now NFS most wanted. so yeah, the only things EA-related i cared about already need multiplayer anyway.
[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]trying to think of the last game from EA i cared... BF3. bought it for the multiplayer, so not affected on that. before that... burnout paradise? and now NFS most wanted. so yeah, the only things EA-related i cared about already need multiplayer anyway. That's fine but a bit of selfish thinking on your part, and doesn't excuse EA's practice. What if it would have been the other way around?
[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Devs should work on integrating multiplayer into the single player like in Dark Souls, instead of just having separate modes.R4gn4r0k
I think Simcity uses a system comparable to that right ? i.e. the multiplayer not being a different mode but available in the SP
Yes, you will be building ur city on the same planet as other players....and u can even help (or destroy) other player cities. I don't mind this type of MP or Integration, but like I said before, it depends on the game. Some are for SP only, others can integrate both.
We have always moaned when games didn't come with mp feature, like with mafia 2. They'd better stick to one side rather than wasting time in a game's section that will be just occupying space in the menu.
But why all the hate this time? This is the only reasonable initiative from ea in years, they just did what you were asking for..
[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]Devs should work on integrating multiplayer into the single player like in Dark Souls, instead of just having separate modes.FelipeInside
I think Simcity uses a system comparable to that right ? i.e. the multiplayer not being a different mode but available in the SP
Yes, you will be building ur city on the same planet as other players....and u can even help (or destroy) other player cities. I don't mind this type of MP or Integration, but like I said before, it depends on the game. Some are for SP only, others can integrate both.
Yes I don't mind that sort of community integration either, as it fits the game. A Sim city team deathmatch or something would be rather weird :P
I do mind when there is a MP/SP mode in the game if it doesn't fit and is soley there so the publisher 'can tick a box' and have a 'complete game'. Mirrors edge 2 multiplayer wouldn't work and Battlefield 3's singleplayer didn't work.
Only the anti-social losers who suck at video games are playing single player games. Good riddance. If you want single player games go play on a console with all the other scrubs.SKaREO
Only the anti-social losers who suck at video games are playing single player games. Good riddance. If you want single player games go play on a console with all the other scrubs.SKaREO
What a load of total BS, but coming from you obviously it doesn't surprise me. Only anti-social loser here is you with that statement.
I suspect this fascination with tacked-on multi-player is an effort by some publishers to curb used game sales. If every game has an online component, which needs to be tied to a specific online account, even on consoles, then it becomes much more troublesome to resell the game when you are finished playing it. It's a not so subtle form of DRM.
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]trying to think of the last game from EA i cared... BF3. bought it for the multiplayer, so not affected on that. before that... burnout paradise? and now NFS most wanted. so yeah, the only things EA-related i cared about already need multiplayer anyway. That's fine but a bit of selfish thinking on your part, and doesn't excuse EA's practice. What if it would have been the other way around? my point is i stopped caring about EA long ago, and if it wasn't my source of racing games, i'd probably never buy an EA game again and be totally fine with it.
This has certainly been EA's focus for a while now. For some reason they're convinced that gamers hate single player. They're all about adding that online social connectivity buzzword stuff into their games because they think that we're really into that. They think that we use video games as a substitute for meeting people in social environments. Look at what they're doing to SimCity.
Meanwhile, all we really want are good games that are fun to play.
xLittlekillx
They don't think people hate single player. It's just that multilayer games tend to have longer "longevity". Which they can exploit to raise DLC sales.
This is a surprise?, EA is infamous for eventually tacking on Multiplayer and/or Online play on every single game the developers underneath their banner makes.
I shouldn't be so insensitive to other people. For that, I apologize and hope you will accept my deepest regrets. I just can't justify playing a game alone when we have the Internet in almost every home across our nations. It's time to get out of the cave and join the rest of us in the new age of gaming.
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