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#1 Mtnes
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Which is the best

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#2 IQT786
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i love myn dell 2408wfp
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samsung SYNCMASTER 226BW imo
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#4 kidcool189
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I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but a high qulaity crt is the way to go for gaming

i myself have a dell p1110 21", although that particular one had a terible birghtness problem at one point i was able to fix it with a simple resistor swap and it is BEAUTIFUL for gaming, and i picked it up for only about $80

ive used a couple high quality lcd's such as the samsung 226bw and the lg l227wtg, both were nice and all but they cant beat the clarity and SMOOTHNESS(crt's refresh rates kicks the **** out of lcd's 60hz, and FYI fps above the monitors refresh rate is not visible to the eye, with my crt i play at 1600x1200 w/ 85hz refresh rate which = 25fps more VISIBLE smoothness over lcd's 60hz, and crts scale MUCH better at different resolutions than lcds from native resolutions) of a nice crt in games, the only thing imo that i like about lcds over crts is the color vibrancy(and that can be competed with if u just turn up the color vibrancy in ur vidoe card driver settings)and text clarity(just for text, not games)

and u can get crts for very cheap today of ebay or craigslist or something


Overall though high quality crt>>>high quality lcd
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samsung SYNCMASTER 226BW imoGTR2addict
Not even close.....
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i love myn dell 2408wfp IQT786
From what I have read that does seem a really good monitor.
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I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but a high qulaity crt is the way to go for gaming

i myself have a dell p1110 21", although that particular one had a terible birghtness problem at one point i was able to fix it with a simple resistor swap and it is BEAUTIFUL for gaming, and i picked it up for only about $80

ive used a couple high quality lcd's such as the samsung 226bw and the lg l227wtg, both were nice and all but they cant beat the clarity and SMOOTHNESS(crt's refresh rates kicks the **** out of lcd's 60hz, and FYI fps above the monitors refresh rate is not visible to the eye, with my crt i play at 1600x1200 w/ 85hz refresh rate which = 25fps more VISIBLE smoothness over lcd's 60hz, and crts scale MUCH better at different resolutions than lcds from native resolutions) of a nice crt in games, the only thing imo that i like about lcds over crts is the color vibrancy(and that can be competed with if u just turn up the color vibrancy in ur vidoe card driver settings)and text clarity(just for text, not games)

and u can get crts for very cheap today of ebay or craigslist or something


Overall though high quality crt>>>high quality lcdkidcool189
The colours on a high quality CRT are as much vibrant as any LCD.What you are probably refering to is the overall clear picture of LCD.

And high quality LCD>High quality CRT>>TN panel LCD and lagging non-TN LCD's.

As long as you have the graphics power to play in the native res,nothing can beat a high quality LCD.Ofcourse if you dont have it then maybe you can give the edge to a CRT but actually the better 1080p HDTV's in the market are EXTREMELY good at upscaling.

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NEC 20WGX2 Pro - AS-IPS matrix.
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I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but a high qulaity crt is the way to go for gaming

i myself have a dell p1110 21", although that particular one had a terible birghtness problem at one point i was able to fix it with a simple resistor swap and it is BEAUTIFUL for gaming, and i picked it up for only about $80

ive used a couple high quality lcd's such as the samsung 226bw and the lg l227wtg, both were nice and all but they cant beat the clarity and SMOOTHNESS(crt's refresh rates kicks the **** out of lcd's 60hz, and FYI fps above the monitors refresh rate is not visible to the eye, with my crt i play at 1600x1200 w/ 85hz refresh rate which = 25fps more VISIBLE smoothness over lcd's 60hz, and crts scale MUCH better at different resolutions than lcds from native resolutions) of a nice crt in games, the only thing imo that i like about lcds over crts is the color vibrancy(and that can be competed with if u just turn up the color vibrancy in ur vidoe card driver settings)and text clarity(just for text, not games)

and u can get crts for very cheap today of ebay or craigslist or something


Overall though high quality crt>>>high quality lcdkidcool189

Those are good 22 inch TN monitors but TN panels are still the worst type of LCD screens. They are definitly not high-quality by any means.

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#10 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but a high qulaity crt is the way to go for gaming

i myself have a dell p1110 21", although that particular one had a terible birghtness problem at one point i was able to fix it with a simple resistor swap and it is BEAUTIFUL for gaming, and i picked it up for only about $80

ive used a couple high quality lcd's such as the samsung 226bw and the lg l227wtg, both were nice and all but they cant beat the clarity and SMOOTHNESS(crt's refresh rates kicks the **** out of lcd's 60hz, and FYI fps above the monitors refresh rate is not visible to the eye, with my crt i play at 1600x1200 w/ 85hz refresh rate which = 25fps more VISIBLE smoothness over lcd's 60hz, and crts scale MUCH better at different resolutions than lcds from native resolutions) of a nice crt in games, the only thing imo that i like about lcds over crts is the color vibrancy(and that can be competed with if u just turn up the color vibrancy in ur vidoe card driver settings)and text clarity(just for text, not games)

and u can get crts for very cheap today of ebay or craigslist or something


Overall though high quality crt>>>high quality lcdSpybot_9

The colours on a high quality CRT are as much vibrant as any LCD.What you are probably refering to is the overall clear picture of LCD.

And high quality LCD>High quality CRT>>TN panel LCD and lagging non-TN LCD's.

As long as you have the graphics power to play in the native res,nothing can beat a high quality LCD.Ofcourse if you dont have it then maybe you can give the edge to a CRT but actually the better 1080p HDTV's in the market are EXTREMELY good at upscaling.



i forgot what exactly their called, but ur tlaking about the non-tn panel lcds right? the ones that run for $600+++?

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]I know a lot of people will disagree with me on this, but a high qulaity crt is the way to go for gaming

i myself have a dell p1110 21", although that particular one had a terible birghtness problem at one point i was able to fix it with a simple resistor swap and it is BEAUTIFUL for gaming, and i picked it up for only about $80

ive used a couple high quality lcd's such as the samsung 226bw and the lg l227wtg, both were nice and all but they cant beat the clarity and SMOOTHNESS(crt's refresh rates kicks the **** out of lcd's 60hz, and FYI fps above the monitors refresh rate is not visible to the eye, with my crt i play at 1600x1200 w/ 85hz refresh rate which = 25fps more VISIBLE smoothness over lcd's 60hz, and crts scale MUCH better at different resolutions than lcds from native resolutions) of a nice crt in games, the only thing imo that i like about lcds over crts is the color vibrancy(and that can be competed with if u just turn up the color vibrancy in ur vidoe card driver settings)and text clarity(just for text, not games)

and u can get crts for very cheap today of ebay or craigslist or something


Overall though high quality crt>>>high quality lcdGog

Those are good 22 inch TN monitors but TN panels are still the worst type of LCD screens. They are definitly not high-quality by any means.



true, but a majority of gamers, if not all, are going to be getting some kind of TN lcd when monitor shopping,rather than those other kinds(forgot what there called) that are meant for graphic design and such

overall though a highquality crt >>>>high quality TN lcd imo

especially when u addin the price

u can get nice 21" crts for dirt cheap off ebay of craigslist (assuming u do ur research and get from a trustworthy seller)

i forgot to say about mine, i got for $80 w/shipping, the dell p1110(just google that and u will find tons of topics of this "brightness" problem wiht that model) and the one i got was a victim of it, BUT the seller gave me a full refund w/shipping AND he told me just to keep it, i did a little research on the bad boy and did the resistor mod for it and the picture quality WAS GOOD AS NEW, and all for free

really couldnt ask for a better deal than that :P

but the one big thing in particular i LOVE about crts>LCD's(tn panels in particular, not sure about other panels) is the refreshrates

1600x1200 @ 85hz is jsut sooooo mcuh smoother than 1680x1050(something like that for lcd's)@ 60hz, if ur computer is powerful enough to produce frames that high for todays games
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Yes I am refering to non-TN LCD's with a good response time and yes they cost quite a bit and normally carry a pretty hefty native resolution to deal with.But it's not like 10x7 is going to look brilliant on a 21" CRT.But ofcourse I am not trying to dispute the resolution advantage of a CRT.
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1600x1200 @ 85hz is jsut sooooo mcuh smoother than 1680x1050(something like that for lcd's)@ 60hz, if ur computer is powerful enough to produce frames that high for todays gameskidcool189
The better LCD's actually have 75Hz if I am not mistaken.

And there are HDTV's with 120Hz.But regardless to say that 85Hz feels "sooo" much smoother is now overating things.The mouse does feel quite a bit smoother I'll give you that.;)

Honestly I dont think you have seen a high quality LCD in it's awesomeness.As gog pointed the ones you have seen are absolutely not high quality.

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#13 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

1600x1200 @ 85hz is jsut sooooo mcuh smoother than 1680x1050(something like that for lcd's)@ 60hz, if ur computer is powerful enough to produce frames that high for todays gamesSpybot_9

The better LCD's actually have 75Hz if I am not mistaken.

And there are HDTV's with 120Hz.But regardless to say that 85Hz feels "sooo" much smoother is now overating things.The mouse does feel quite a bit smoother I'll give you that.;)

Honestly I dont think you have seen a high quality LCD in it's awesomeness.As gog pointed the ones you have seen are absolutely not high quality.



you are right, and the best lcd monitor ive seen in action is the lg l227ltg i had for a little while, never seen one of those crazy non-tn panels in action(i would love to though some day, they dont have those kinds at best buy or circuit city or somewhere right? dont remember seeing one there last time was there)

but realisticly, very few gamers(such as the TC probably) are gonna dish out money for one of those kind of lcd's, most of them would be choosing something in the range of 226bw's, l227ltg's, etc, etc, and for that price, id rather save a 100 or two and get nice big crt

but as years go by lcd's will for sure eventually take over crts in every way and be affordable, but i have no idea when that time will come

but for now im very happy with my FREE 21 incher crt :P
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#14 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]

1600x1200 @ 85hz is jsut sooooo mcuh smoother than 1680x1050(something like that for lcd's)@ 60hz, if ur computer is powerful enough to produce frames that high for todays gameskidcool189

The better LCD's actually have 75Hz if I am not mistaken.

And there are HDTV's with 120Hz.But regardless to say that 85Hz feels "sooo" much smoother is now overating things.The mouse does feel quite a bit smoother I'll give you that.;)

Honestly I dont think you have seen a high quality LCD in it's awesomeness.As gog pointed the ones you have seen are absolutely not high quality.



you are right, and the best lcd monitor ive seen in action is the lg l227ltg i had for a little while, never seen one of those crazy non-tn panels in action(i would love to though some day, they dont have those kinds at best buy or circuit city or somewhere right? dont remember seeing one there last time was there)

but realisticly, very few gamers(such as the TC probably) are gonna dish out money for one of those kind of lcd's, most of them would be choosing something in the range of 226bw's, l227ltg's, etc, etc, and for that price, id rather save a 100 or two and get nice big crt

but as years go by lcd's will for sure eventually take over crts in every way and be affordable, but i have no idea when that time will come

but for now im very happy with my FREE 21 incher crt :P

Sure.

You said that a high quality CRT is better than a high quality LCD which is wrong.All of your other points are fair enough.

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I would go with a 46" Viewsonic Widescreen LCD monitor at 6ms with a resolution of 1920x1080 contrast ratio of 1500:1.
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#16 LordEC911
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Sure.

You said that a high quality CRT is better than a high quality LCD which is wrong.All of your other points are fair enough.Spybot_9

What are you talking about?
Not to turn into Thinker... but CRTs ARE better than LCDs.

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Acer AL191WAbd 19-inch Widescreen LCD monitor is what I have and im really satisfied with it.
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#18 LibertySaint
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samsung SYNCMASTER 226BW imoGTR2addict
oh yeah soo totally, that is unless u want a really expensive monitor...on average the 226bw is 200 bucks, sooo yeah. its awsome for its value.
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#19 Mtnes
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which would be the best

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below 250 $ monitor.

how is this - ViewSonic's 19' VX1932wm widescreen LCD 2ms video response

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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Sure.

You said that a high quality CRT is better than a high quality LCD which is wrong.All of your other points are fair enough.LordEC911

What are you talking about?
Not to turn into Thinker... but CRTs ARE better than LCDs.

How can you say so?

A high quality non-TN LCD has much better image quality than a CRT.The image is just so crisp,bright and clear on the LCD.Not to say that the image is not excellent in it's own right on the CRT.

Widescreen>Normal screen.

And lastly CRT's are so reflective that it's impossible to have any light source behind the monitor.While on LCD's you may see backlight bleeding in darker areas,on CRT's you may see your own face in darker areas.:oops:

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If you are talking aboit less than 250$ then its going to be TN-screen mostly... However, if your pc is decent or you dont really care much about gaming then 20'' screen should be better to have higher resolution (16x10) at least..
Honestly, if i were you with that small budget, I'd search on eBay, you should find great deals on 2007wfp (S-IPS Panel or even S-PVA in some cases) you might have to pay like 275~300$ depends of the auction and bidders but this 50$ will worth it for sure because you are talking about one of the top screens at this range..
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If you are talking aboit less than 250$ then its going to be TN-screen mostly... However, if your pc is decent or you dont really care much about gaming then 20'' screen should be better to have higher resolution (16x10) at least..
Honestly, if i were you with that small budget, I'd search on eBay, you should find great deals on 2007wfp (S-IPS Panel or even S-PVA in some cases) you might have to pay like 275~300$ depends of the auction and bidders but this 50$ will worth it for sure because you are talking about one of the top screens at this range.. SearchMaster
Eh but it's 19x12 right?

If you want really good image quality on a LCD and not a very high res,then IMO a good brand 720p HDTV is the best.Just sit a little far from the screen and the low res is not a big concern.:)

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How do you tell if a monitor's panel is TN or not?

I think I heard something about the viewing angle...

EDIT: Also, does anyone know if the ASUS MK241 24" LCD is a TN panel?

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#25 IQT786
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How do you tell if a monitor's panel is TN or not?

I think I heard something about the viewing angle...

EDIT: Also, does anyone know if the ASUS MK241 24" LCD is a TN panel?

poogawotta

it's a tn read the review http://www.trustedreviews.com/displays/review/2008/02/19/Asus-MK241-24in-LCD-Monitor-/p1

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#26 DJ8WORK
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depending what rez you can play at, i'd go with dell... the 2408 or 3007REV Ao2(which ive got) are very good for gaming!!