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#1 basketcase14240
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Im going to build my first computer and i was thinking about how on my alienware desktop right now it has this recovery software that allows me to restart my comp to original settings like how it left the factory..that program has saved my comp so many times and its the only reason its lasted so long..so i was wondering if im building it myself how can i do that? im sure there has to be a way.

ps sorry this isnt on the cnet software discussion..those forums looked more confusing to use i figured i could just ask on here

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#2 markop2003
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You can just reformat the drive, the recovary software just reformats the system partition and replaces it with the data from a backup partition
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You can just reformat the drive, the recovary software just reformats the system partition and replaces it with the data from a backup partitionmarkop2003
.....uhmmm sorry i dont kno what any of that means...how do u learn this stuff by the way? are you a comp engineer or something...anyway can you try and explain this in simpler terms or is there just some software i can buy to do this for me?
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#4 --Anna--
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If you are going to build your own computer, you may as well learn this: http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-backup-your-data

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#5 markop2003
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]You can just reformat the drive, the recovary software just reformats the system partition and replaces it with the data from a backup partitionbasketcase14240
.....uhmmm sorry i dont kno what any of that means...how do u learn this stuff by the way? are you a comp engineer or something...anyway can you try and explain this in simpler terms or is there just some software i can buy to do this for me?

Not a comp engineer at all, actually until August 20th i don't even have an AS in computing :lol: This sort of stuff i learned from forums and just messing around also breaking computers and then having to fix them yourself is a great way to learn about them. Reformatting wipes the MFT ((main file table) this is the data base that says where files physically are on you hard drive, with out that your drive as far as your PC is concerned is empty. To do this you can just right click on the drive in windows (under my computer) and click reformat or insert your windows disk and do it via the installation of the operating system.
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#6 markop2003
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If you are going to build your own computer, you may as well learn this: http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-backup-your-data

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It's much better just to do it by hand then you can get all your saved games and such too or if you have any personal files not stored in my documents ect
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#7 Gog
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You need a disk image software like Acronis TrueImage or Norton Ghost. Thsi will create an exact copy of your curent installation and recover that image when you need it.

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#8 basketcase14240
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hmm okay now i have 3 methods...do it manually..create a back up..or download that software...alrightt thanks guys now i feel more confident in building a comp incase it gets messed up with viruses. and thats pretty interesting stuff about reformating the hard drive..it seems simple enough

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#9 markop2003
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Ghosting using the software is only any use if your going to use the backup on the same computer as it copies everything including all your drivers, backing up manually means you have all your music and documents ect in a format that allows you to load them on to any PC so if you get a laptop and want your files on that or you just want to send some old photos to a friend they're all their on your backup in an easy to use form. Personally i just go straight to my backup drive these days, i don't even bother putting personal files on my system drive.
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#10 basketcase14240
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soo you reccomend backing up my files then? also if i want to restore those files and drivers can i make it delete everything else on my comp except the backup files..?

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[QUOTE="basketcase14240"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Reformatting wipes the MFT ((main file table) this is the data base that says where files physically are on you hard drive, with out that your drive as far as your PC is concerned is empty. markop2003

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but does that mean that if a HDD is reformated the files are not deleted, just not visible? But I guess over time the files would be overwritten?

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#12 markop2003
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[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="basketcase14240"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Reformatting wipes the MFT ((main file table) this is the data base that says where files physically are on you hard drive, with out that your drive as far as your PC is concerned is empty. joshuahaveron

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but does that mean that if a HDD is reformated the files are not deleted, just not visible? But I guess over time the files would be overwritten?

Unless you use a low level format that overwrites everything with zeros then no, there are programs around that will reformat a drive multiple times to so there must be programs around that can even break a low level reformat. Though it seems logical to me if you really want to make a drive unreadable you'ld be better off over writing the disk several times with jumbled code not zeros as it would make it harder to differentiate between multiple generations of jumbled code than code and multiple generations of zeros. Unless your storing criminal records on your computer though you 'll be fine with a regular reformat. The only sure way to wipe a disk is to take the platters out the drive, attck them with the magnet from a magnetic crane then incinerating them.
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#13 basketcase14240
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lol wow you really do know alot about computers..so your a computer science major then?

oh and if i restore the files on my back up can i make it delete everything else on my comp except the backup files

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#14 joshuahaveron
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[QUOTE="joshuahaveron"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"][QUOTE="basketcase14240"][QUOTE="markop2003"] Reformatting wipes the MFT ((main file table) this is the data base that says where files physically are on you hard drive, with out that your drive as far as your PC is concerned is empty. markop2003

Sorry for hijacking this thread, but does that mean that if a HDD is reformated the files are not deleted, just not visible? But I guess over time the files would be overwritten?

Unless you use a low level format that overwrites everything with zeros then no, there are programs around that will reformat a drive multiple times to so there must be programs around that can even break a low level reformat. Though it seems logical to me if you really want to make a drive unreadable you'ld be better off over writing the disk several times with jumbled code not zeros as it would make it harder to differentiate between multiple generations of jumbled code than code and multiple generations of zeros. Unless your storing criminal records on your computer though you 'll be fine with a regular reformat. The only sure way to wipe a disk is to take the platters out the drive, attck them with the magnet from a magnetic crane then incinerating them.

That's interesting :D. Also quite worrying, seen as though many people sell their old computers and if someone with the right skills and knowledge could find out a lot of personal information.

I saw an episode of malcolm in the middle like that :D

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#15 basketcase14240
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yeahh thats why im majoring in comp engineer so i can learn to avoid that problem wooo

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#16 Xsan3
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[QUOTE="basketcase14240"][QUOTE="markop2003"]You can just reformat the drive, the recovary software just reformats the system partition and replaces it with the data from a backup partitionmarkop2003
.....uhmmm sorry i dont kno what any of that means...how do u learn this stuff by the way? are you a comp engineer or something...anyway can you try and explain this in simpler terms or is there just some software i can buy to do this for me?

Hey Mark - remember that thread about ur Brain Hurting :)