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#1 RedxSniper
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In the next month or so i'll be looking for deals and purchasing them to make my first gaming computer. Now im wondering if this is a deal that i should buy now rather then wait because it seems rather good but im a noob.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145184

I kinda need to know rather soon because the rebate offer ends the 15th. Thanks :)

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#2 zaku101
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Looks like a very good deal to me.
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#3 RedxSniper
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Alright thanks i think i might buy it tomorrow.
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#4 GulliverJr
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It depends on your view of rebates. I usually base my own purchasing decisions on the actual up-front cost, unless it is an instant rebate, which this one is not. Rebates frequently get miffed, and by the time they come back, it is not like I really got the whatzzit for "cheaper". Some of that is perception.

The truth is, though, that with as many memory vendors as there are, there will always be a deal to be had somewhere. If there isn't, wait five minutes...one will turn up. Jokes aside, memory is a commodity; with DDR3 coming down the pike, prices on DDR2 will continue to further depress and deals will abound, I estimate. Good luck.

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#5 RedxSniper
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I think you have a great point.... Which makes me not want to buy it but at the same time i wonder if i can get a dual kit like this for 24.99$ or less in about a months time..
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#6 GulliverJr
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I can not say for certain that you will. But my perspective is that you are getting the kit for $55, letting the company borrow the other $30 for 6-12 weeks, and then having them pay you back the loan. I think recently all the companies have been going to rebates with these rebate cards that you swipe like a credit card.

Anyway, disregarding the whole time-value of money argument, in a month's time, you should be able to choose components that you want, including memory, with various deals and cost savings. If you lose out on the $30 rebate somewhere, you should be able to find it on another component.

I have seen memory prices waiver; years ago it used to be much more variated from month to month. In recent years, it has been much more stable, and almost all price movements have been downward. Memory prices might go up a little if, when, and as the economy recovers. I guess I would question purchasing memory sticks to have them sit around for a month or longer. If they are bad and only have a 30-day warranty policy, you might not find out in time to get your money back.

Rebates in this price range are nice tie-breakers if you are considering two products and one has a rebate and the other does not. But for $30 I would not jump now.

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#8 RedxSniper
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Alright thanks. I just hope i can get the whole system for under 900$ when the time comes. What i have right now is alot higher then my budget so im hoping things like gtx 260's and p45 and the Q6600 Drop so i can afford the whole system because whats slowing me down is that i need a moniter, keyboard mouse and speakers with the computer..
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Alright next one, antec 900 at 79.99$. Now or later( as in in one month) i don't really now much about case prices. Honestly i've decided ima go with the ram because for 24.99$ for 2 x 2 Gb it can't get much cheaper then that....
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[QUOTE="RedxSniper"]Alright next one, antec 900 at 79.99$. Now or later( as in in one month) i don't really now much about case prices. Honestly i've decided ima go with the ram because for 24.99$ for 2 x 2 Gb it can't get much cheaper then that....

Anyone?
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[QUOTE="RedxSniper"]Alright next one, antec 900 at 79.99$. Now or later( as in in one month) i don't really now much about case prices. Honestly i've decided ima go with the ram because for 24.99$ for 2 x 2 Gb it can't get much cheaper then that....RedxSniper

The above question and when looking for ram compatibility do you look at 'standard memory' or just the pins. Because the motherboard i want is 240 Pin but the memory standard is 1336+/1006 or w.e and the ram im getting is 240 pain with 806 or w.e .

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[QUOTE="RedxSniper"][QUOTE="RedxSniper"]Alright next one, antec 900 at 79.99$. Now or later( as in in one month) i don't really now much about case prices. Honestly i've decided ima go with the ram because for 24.99$ for 2 x 2 Gb it can't get much cheaper then that....RedxSniper

The above question and when looking for ram compatibility do you look at 'standard memory' or just the pins. Because the motherboard i want is 240 Pin but the memory standard is 1336+/1006 or w.e and the ram im getting is 240 pain with 806 or w.e .

Is this the first PC you are building or the just the first gaming PC? I've got three concerns: I can understand you being concerned about the prices for components, should you buy certain ones now at certain prices, but I have not heard what your requirements are. Are you buying a 64-bit OS so that you can use all of the RAM you are buying? What are your case requirements? Mine were that the included fans had to be qty two and 120mm, the hard drive bays had to be side mounted, and the drive bays all had to use drive rails for tool-less securing of all optical drives and hard drives. If you need to be in a case for less than $100 that meets those requirements, you will be able to find one in a month. Or is the Antec 900 a sacred cow for you and you want that case?

Most importantly, I think you need to get into the weeds on the details of the components you are picking before you spend the money. The specs for RAM are probably not best selected off of a "whatever". I am not even sure off the top of my head if there is a chipset that only accepts 1066 or 1333MHz RAM, but if there is, then no, 800MHz RAM will not work in it. Motherboard chipsets allow RAM to to downclock, not up-clock (with overclocking being a seperate question for another day). You can buy DDR3-1600MHZ RAM and it will work in a DDR3-1333MHz board, the RAM will simply operate at the maximum speed the board can support of 1333MHz. But you can not buy DDR3-800MHz RAM and place it in a board that will only accept 1066 or 1333 MHZ RAM. The RAM will not operate at the minimum speed the board would be spc'd to.

You also need to know about things like the difference between DDR2 and DDR3 and more importantly make sure you do not order ECC RAM for a consumer level moboard. All of these are things you should understand. There are several sites with "How to build a PC" guides that will walk you through the specs on RAM and other compnents like the paragraph above.

It will arm you with the info you need before trying to buy GTX200 cards and a quad-core processor. Hope this helps.

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#13 RedxSniper
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Hey. Thanks that was a really good description. yes this is my first build period, and my first gaming pc. As of my case, i wanted it to have alot of air flow and look really nice. This left me with a couple choices and i ended up choosing the antec 900. So i guess you can say its my 'sacred cow'. My second thing is im going to be using a 32 bit os for a couple months until windows 7 comes out then im upgrading to a 64 bit, So that's where 4gb comes in. Lol no worries on the Ddr2 vs Ddr3 i know that but what i was asking is when i looked at the motherboard it said 240pin and then the words 'Memory Standerd: 1066/1333Mhz.' What im asking is does that mean that it's for those types and up? Or am i misinterpreting Memory Standard? The "How to build a Pc" guides is what got me started so i have learned quite a bit. Unfortunetly with the budget i have (900$ and i need a moniter, keyboard, mouse and speakers) i won't be able to get a 200 series card so my plan is to get a good processor that will last for a long time ( Q6600 (can always overclock)), a pretty good motherboard 750/780i, most likely the 750 and then a decent case. For the graphics card im leaning towards a ati 4830 because 1. It's very cheap, 2. It can max almost every game(except crisis) and 3. It should last me till the summer at the very least. Then in the summer when i get my cash ill get a better psu if needed and upgrade my gpu. So now my whole goal is to try and save 15$ here and 20$ there ect.. So i can get better parts for my budget, and i have 1.5 months to look for deals so untill i find one i probably won't buy anything.

I have a question, i was looking at mouses and i realised "dpi" i used to always think sensitivity as in for speed, but i don't know if im right. The whole "Fly on the way" or w.e you call it is confusing, if someone would care to explain it i would be gratefull. Thanks :)

EDIT: As for the case i have decided not to get it yet, because from what i heard there are lots of sales on them throughout the year and this one was a good one except for the fact that with shipping it's back at 95$ so...

DOUBLE EDIT: I couldn't find benchmarks comparing 8800gts( Not g92) and the 4830. So does anyone know which one is better?

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#14 RedxSniper
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If only there were a bump button lol. Questions above still apply.