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#1 zvegasz
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I need a 120 mhz monitor. And acording to nVidias homepage only 3 monitors support HDMI 1.4 3D vision. The rest of 120 mhz is "only" BlueRay 3d ready.. What does HDMI 1.4 mean? Do I need it?

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#2 GTR12
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HDMI 1.4 is the new standard, its the version number.

You need 120Hz not mhz :lol: nothing else will work.

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I believe 1.4 is what supports 3D.
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#4 GTR12
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I believe 1.4 is what supports 3D.C_Rule

1.3 does aswell, just like the PS3, but its limited to 720P.

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#5 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]I believe 1.4 is what supports 3D.GTR12

1.3 does aswell, just like the PS3, but its limited to 720P.

The Wikipedia lies.
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#6 zvegasz
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That can´t be true.

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#7 -GeordiLaForge-
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I thought that you could use 3DVision through any of the outputs.. Also, contrary to popular belief, 100Hz is the real minimum requirement for using 3DVision...
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#8 zvegasz
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I thought that you could use 3DVision through any of the outputs.. Also, contrary to popular belief, 100Hz is the real minimum requirement for using 3DVision...-GeordiLaForge-

No. You need 120Hz to get 24fps per eye. If not the screen will flicker.

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#9 C_Rule
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Isn't it 60?
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#10 zvegasz
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Isn't it 60?C_Rule
60+60=120. two eyes you know..

It seems like HDMI 1.4 is needed to get 1080p @ 24 fps. And 1.3 only supports 720p. But i don´t know cause all the technical details is written in a engineering language.

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#11 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I thought that you could use 3DVision through any of the outputs.. Also, contrary to popular belief, 100Hz is the real minimum requirement for using 3DVision...zvegasz

No. You need 120Hz to get 24fps per eye. If not the screen will flicker.

3DVision games will work fine with 100Hz displays.. 720p 100Hz 3DVision projector...
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#12 zvegasz
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[QUOTE="zvegasz"]

[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]I thought that you could use 3DVision through any of the outputs.. Also, contrary to popular belief, 100Hz is the real minimum requirement for using 3DVision...-GeordiLaForge-

No. You need 120Hz to get 24fps per eye. If not the screen will flicker.

3DVision games will work fine with 100Hz displays.. 720p 100Hz 3DVision projector...

"There is an annoying strobe effect when watching content at 1080p24, possibly due to the color wheel only cleanly matching a 60Hz refresh. Again, it's so bad, I'm not sure why they even included this feature. If you can't stand 3:2 pulldown, look else"

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#13 GTR12
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That can´t be true.

zvegasz

Why?

The PS3 hardware specs say it has HDMI 1.3, and its marketed as a 3D console...so 1.3 can do 3D.

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#14 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Isn't it 60?zvegasz

60+60=120. two eyes you know..

It seems like HDMI 1.4 is needed to get 1080p @ 24 fps. And 1.3 only supports 720p. But i don´t know cause all the technical details is written in a engineering language.

I don't follow... Isn't the frame rate split in two? So if you're getting 60fps per eye, you'd be getting 60 fps?
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#15 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="zvegasz"]

No. You need 120Hz to get 24fps per eye. If not the screen will flicker.

zvegasz

3DVision games will work fine with 100Hz displays.. 720p 100Hz 3DVision projector...

"There is an annoying strobe effect when watching content at 1080p24, possibly due to the color wheel only cleanly matching a 60Hz refresh. Again, it's so bad, I'm not sure why they even included this feature. If you can't stand 3:2 pulldown, look else"

That's why I specified games. I would rather have a 1080p 3D HDTV for Bluray, and use 3x 720p 3D projectors at 100Hz for gaming.. 100Hz requires less GPU power, as does 720p resolution...
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[QUOTE="zvegasz"]

That can´t be true.

GTR12

Why?

The PS3 hardware specs say it has HDMI 1.3, and its marketed as a 3D console...so 1.3 can do 3D.

the newst version of 1.3 can do it. 1.4 adds ethernet through HDMI and 2k-4k resolution support (previously only DVi could do 2k)

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#17 zvegasz
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[QUOTE="zvegasz"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]Isn't it 60?C_Rule

60+60=120. two eyes you know..

It seems like HDMI 1.4 is needed to get 1080p @ 24 fps. And 1.3 only supports 720p. But i don´t know cause all the technical details is written in a engineering language.

I don't follow... Isn't the frame rate split in two? So if you're getting 60fps per eye, you'd be getting 60 fps?

As I understand it 120Hz @ 1080p gives 24 fpsX2. If 60Hz you get 12 fpsX2.

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#18 -GeordiLaForge-
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[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="zvegasz"] 60+60=120. two eyes you know..

It seems like HDMI 1.4 is needed to get 1080p @ 24 fps. And 1.3 only supports 720p. But i don´t know cause all the technical details is written in a engineering language.

zvegasz

I don't follow... Isn't the frame rate split in two? So if you're getting 60fps per eye, you'd be getting 60 fps?

As I understand it 120Hz @ 1080p gives 24 fpsX2. If 60Hz you get 12 fpsX2.

Hz = refreshes per second. 120Hz = 120fps (if your videocard can keep up).. 3DVision @ 120Hz = 60Hz x2... (3D Bluray is 24fps)
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#19 zvegasz
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[QUOTE="zvegasz"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"] I don't follow... Isn't the frame rate split in two? So if you're getting 60fps per eye, you'd be getting 60 fps?-GeordiLaForge-

As I understand it 120Hz @ 1080p gives 24 fpsX2. If 60Hz you get 12 fpsX2.

Hz = refreshes per second. 120Hz = 120fps (if your videocard can keep up).. 3DVision @ 120Hz = 60Hz x2... (3D Bluray is 24fps)

Then why do you need a 120Hz monitor? This is confusing as sh!t.. Im going to mail nVidia.

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#20 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="zvegasz"] As I understand it 120Hz @ 1080p gives 24 fpsX2. If 60Hz you get 12 fpsX2.

zvegasz

Hz = refreshes per second. 120Hz = 120fps (if your videocard can keep up).. 3DVision @ 120Hz = 60Hz x2... (3D Bluray is 24fps)

Then why do you need a 120Hz monitor? This is confusing as sh!t.. Im going to mail nVidia.

Yeah, but I think you're getting movies confused with games. Movies are capped at 24fps, games can go as high as your rig can handle.