Nvidia GPUs have fallen behind AMD GPUs these days.

AMD offers more performance for the money and better scaling in multi-GPU setups than Nvidia. Nvidia graphics cards have become overpriced for what they offer. Add to that the fact that AMD graphics cards offer MLAA, which can be used to make any game look better, even those that don't normally support anti-aliasing. Nvidia offers no such feature yet.

For example, let's take 6970 Tri-Crossfire versus 580 Tri-SLI. The AMD solution is a much better buy, offers comparable performance, and offers MLAA!

Nvidia has 3D Vision? Well, so what? AMD has Eyefinity. They are tied in that category.

There used to be a time in the past when AMD/ATI GPU drivers were less than stellar, but nowadays their drivers are every bit as good as Nvidia GPU drivers. Only a total Nvidia fanboy would say otherwise. Therefore, I really don't see the point of Nvidia cards these days. Yes, they have their group of loyal followers, but I think it's pretty obvious that Nvidia has fallen behind AMD these days in graphics solutions. Maybe one day Nvidia will get their act together and stop overcharging for their GPUs, but as it stands right now, AMD is on top.

Who agrees?

I dont, and your an AMD fanboy, what about the 4xx gen series of scaling?

Specifically 2 GTX460's beating out a single GTX480, and then the very simple claim of Nvidia has physx?

I dont, and your an AMD fanboy, what about the 4xx gen series of scaling?

Specifically 2 GTX460's beating out a single GTX480, and then the very simple claim of Nvidia has physx?

GTR12

MLAA isn't an AMD independent feature, they just offer it in their drivers, it works fine on Nvidia cards. And there is FXAA that can be used with any game anyways, and nvidia will probably have SRAA in their drivers sometime soon Physx is hardly mediocre or irrelevant, especially when you are going by the standards of MLAA in drivers being some killer feature for AMD :lol:ferret-gamer

Sorry, but Physx is crap. Pure crap.

And good luck getting MLAA to work properly with Nvidia GPUs.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]MLAA isn't an AMD independent feature, they just offer it in their drivers, it works fine on Nvidia cards. And there is FXAA that can be used with any game anyways, and nvidia will probably have SRAA in their drivers sometime soon Physx is hardly mediocre or irrelevant, especially when you are going by the standards of MLAA in drivers being some killer feature for AMD :lol:Baurus_1

Sorry, but Physx is crap. Pure crap.

And good luck getting MLAA to work properly with Nvidia GPUs.

And as we can see, your an AMD fanboy, so wheres CUDA then on AMD's side?

Also Nvidia has the current fastest single GPU, even though they just trade blows in that department.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]MLAA isn't an AMD independent feature, they just offer it in their drivers, it works fine on Nvidia cards. And there is FXAA that can be used with any game anyways, and nvidia will probably have SRAA in their drivers sometime soon Physx is hardly mediocre or irrelevant, especially when you are going by the standards of MLAA in drivers being some killer feature for AMD :lol:Baurus_1

Sorry, but Physx is crap. Pure crap.

And good luck getting MLAA to work properly with Nvidia GPUs.

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]MLAA isn't an AMD independent feature, they just offer it in their drivers, it works fine on Nvidia cards. And there is FXAA that can be used with any game anyways, and nvidia will probably have SRAA in their drivers sometime soon Physx is hardly mediocre or irrelevant, especially when you are going by the standards of MLAA in drivers being some killer feature for AMD :lol:GTR12

Sorry, but Physx is crap. Pure crap.

And good luck getting MLAA to work properly with Nvidia GPUs.

And as we can see, your an AMD fanboy, so wheres CUDA then on AMD's side?

Also Nvidia has the current fastest single GPU, even though they just trade blows in that department.

Despite other stuff in this thread, generalized CUDA is pretty irrelevant for gaming, it has been effectively replaced by DX11's compute platform. CUDA is dead for video games, it only lives as the platform which physx runs on, and in the proffesional application realm.ferret-gamer

I know, I just said that cos its there lol, take a look at the other thread he posted in and you'll see my point.

This user.... needs moar lock.C_Rule

There fixed for you C_Rule :P

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]MLAA isn't an AMD independent feature, they just offer it in their drivers, it works fine on Nvidia cards. And there is FXAA that can be used with any game anyways, and nvidia will probably have SRAA in their drivers sometime soon Physx is hardly mediocre or irrelevant, especially when you are going by the standards of MLAA in drivers being some killer feature for AMD :lol:Baurus_1

Sorry, but Physx is crap. Pure crap.

And good luck getting MLAA to work properly with Nvidia GPUs.

I agree about the price/performance thing, my next build is going to be all AMD. And no i'm not a fanboy.Hellsing2o2

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]This user.... needs moar lock.GTR12

There fixed for you C_Rule :P

[QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]I agree about the price/performance thing, my next build is going to be all AMD. And no i'm not a fanboy.C_Rule

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="Hellsing2o2"]I agree about the price/performance thing, my next build is going to be all AMD. And no i'm not a fanboy.Baurus_1

Another Fail Fanboy thread.:roll:

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"][QUOTE="C_Rule"]
If you think AMD have better price/performance, across the board, you should do some research before you do your next build.C_Rule

6970 wrecks the 570, especially in Tri-Crossfire versus Tri-SLI

LOL @ the 570's 1.2GB of VRAM. For that matter LOL @ the standard 580's 1.5GB of VRAM. And let's not even talk about the ridiculously overpriced 3GB 580.

You fail again.

And YOU were saying?

LOL!!!!

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

No, YOU are the one that needs to do the research.

Nvidia GPUs are overpriced. AMD GPUs are a far better value.Baurus_1

6970 wrecks the 570, especially in Tri-Crossfire versus Tri-SLI

LOL @ the 570's 1.2GB of VRAM. For that matter LOL @ the standard 580's 1.5GB of VRAM. And let's not even talk about the ridiculously overpriced 3GB 580.

You fail again.

And YOU were saying?

LOL!!!!

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

6970 wrecks the 570, especially in Tri-Crossfire versus Tri-SLI

LOL @ the 570's 1.2GB of VRAM. For that matter LOL @ the standard 580's 1.5GB of VRAM. And let's not even talk about the ridiculously overpriced 3GB 580.

You fail again.

And YOU were saying?

LOL!!!!

C_Rule

I doubt he knows what VRAM even is...or what its used for.

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

6970 wrecks the 570, especially in Tri-Crossfire versus Tri-SLI

LOL @ the 570's 1.2GB of VRAM. For that matter LOL @ the standard 580's 1.5GB of VRAM. And let's not even talk about the ridiculously overpriced 3GB 580.

You fail again.

And YOU were saying?

LOL!!!!

GTR12

I doubt he knows what VRAM even is...or what its used for.

It creates the magic that powers unicorns, of course :Pferret-gamer

Thanks alot lol, I just spilt my beer on my kb reading that and laughing.

People are always going to be biased with on brand or another, its just personal taste and experience. AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.robertoenrique

People are always going to be biased with on brand or another, its just personal taste and experience. AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.robertoenrique

[QUOTE="robertoenrique"]People are always going to be biased with on brand or another, its just personal taste and experience. AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.JonChaoZ

[QUOTE="JonChaoZ"][QUOTE="robertoenrique"]People are always going to be biased with on brand or another, its just personal taste and experience. AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.04dcarraher

Thats not quite true neither because Nvidia and AMD have both low and high ended cards. And for both their mid ranged sub $200 are their biggest sellers. 04dcarraher

I think he means one dominates one end and the other the other end. Nvidia controls the top with the 580 and arguably 570, and AMD the bottom with their x670cards and x770 / x750 cards.

Same with Intel vs AMD. Remember, you get what you paid for.JonChaoZ

Yeah, I paid $80 for a retail3.3ghz black edition quad core cpu. Can I say the same for Intel?

imo Radeon 6850 and 6950 are probably dominating due to their price per performance ;o

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"][QUOTE="C_Rule"]
If you think AMD have better price/performance, across the board, you should do some research before you do your next build.C_Rule

Here's what you get with each GPU maker from my personal experience-

AMD- Great performance for the price, great (current generation) Crossfire scaling. Low power consumption in the 5000 series, not quite as low in the 6000 series. Outstanding multi-monitor support.

Nvidia- Great performance and feature set. Driver stability typically superior. GPU configuration interface provided in drivers typically superior. The fastest single GPU card on the market for the last 3+ generations. Leading technologies like Cuda and Physx, although some people don't care for Physx. Decent multi-gpu scaling. Fairly high power consumption, but not ridiculous.

I prefer Nvidia due to my experiences with the drivers and control center interfaces from both companies. I also prefer Nvidia because I can use Physx if a game offers it. It's not a huge deal in most games, but it's nice to be able to enable all features.

I think that the whole "AMD offers better performance for the money" thing is a bit overblown. Nvidia matches up pretty well in that department when you look at the midrange and up. Of course AMD has no equal to the GTX 580 in a single GPU card, so Nvidia can charge more for that beast.

AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.robertoenrique

Nope. Not true at all. AMD GPUs take care of the market of people who are tech-savvy enough to know that they (AMD) offer more performance for the money and better multi-GPU scaling. Nvidia takes care of the market of loyal Nvidia fans and tech-clueless gamers who don't know any better.

Same with Intel vs AMD. Remember, you get what you paid for.JonChaoZ

We are talking about GPUs here, not CPUs. Yes, with CPUs Intel has been dominating. However, with GPUs, presently AMD has the best technology.

And you do not always get what you pay for. For example, for gaming, a reasonably priced i7-2600k CPU beats the crap out of a high-priced i7-990X CPU.

AMD GPUs > Nvidia GPUs

WOWOWOWOW i thought everyone on this forum was nice :( this feel like System Wars.murat8

No TC probably migrated from there.

IDK about that. My GTX480 in SLI is pretty beastly.

[QUOTE="robertoenrique"]AMD takes care of the lower budget market while Nvidia takes care of the high budget market. Thats all there is to it.Baurus_1

Nope. Not true at all. AMD GPUs take care of the market of people who are tech-savvy enough to know that they (AMD) offer more performance for the money and better multi-GPU scaling. Nvidia takes care of the market of loyal Nvidia fans and tech-clueless gamers who don't know any better.

LOL, tc is getting us good. Your forgetting Nvidia still holds tri/quad setup performances. Also, this is not system wars, users here are more wise than to be a fanboy over either product since they are similar just that each of them has different features/pros/cons.

What a stupid thread failed fanboy, I have a 6970 and I dont go starting flame wars, its all personal experience and taste on what you like, at the time when i bought mine it was roughly the same price as a 570 or a little cheaper but npthing significant, the reason i bought it is I reviewed several respectable hardwarre review websites on benchmarks and performance, the 6970 was just slightly faster also nothing significant, I chose AMD cause it seemed it offered the most for my money at the given time, it had more vram also you can do eyefinity with a single card. Previously I have owned only nvidia GPUS, besides a 5850 that I had for 2 weeks. Ever since I have had my 6970 I have never had any problems with drivers only GTA 4 where certain problems arrise but its a terrible port so its not worth even mentioning, at the moment I can max every game that there is with 2xaa and get 30+ fps(of course there is the witcher with ubersmpling or 1 or 2 titles with certain unoptimized features). I dont use mlaa or fxaa I dont really care about those so its irelevant to me.

AMD is ahead in terms of raw computing power (see bitcoin mining for example) and energy efficiency. That is about it.

Dont feed the troll.V4LENT1NE

[QUOTE="murat8"]WOWOWOWOW i thought everyone on this forum was nice :( this feel like System Wars.kaitanuvax

No TC probably migrated from there.

Want more proof that AMD GPUs are better than Nvidia GPUs this gen? HD 6990s have been sold out everywhere because they are in very high demand, whereas GTX 590s have been mostly readily available because no one even cares about them. People know which offers better performance and specs.

Nvidia GPUs this gen = fail