Nvidia GTX 595 VS ATI 6990

Okay so I'm looking for a new graphics card and I was set on getting a 580 GTX but then I heard the GTX 595 will be coming this month, then after some more research I find ATi will also be releasing a new monster this month or early next month.

Does anyone know anymore on these two and what do you think about which will come out on top.

Be advised, any answer you receive in this thread is purely speculation until the actual products are released and benchmarked.

Let the idocy commence!

dunnoooooo, let me check my crystal balllzzz. K in all honesty probably the 595

dunnoooooo, let me check my crystal balllzzz. K in all honesty probably the 595

blaznwiipspman1

6990 fo sho.

Just get 2 GTX570's now and be happy.

honestly i'm leaning toward the 595 but it would be nice to see what the 6990 can do also.

since the gtx 580 is already that strong i presume the gtx 595 will be the best but you never know, the hd 5970 is about the same but that's a dual gpu card. If the gtx 595 is a dual gpu card that will be a real monster. But for all we know ati put 5 gpu's on that 6990 . Since i don't like gpu cards i suggest you just crossfire 2 hd 6970's. Ati's scaling in crossfire is better than nvidia , so much better even that 2 hd 6950's beatdown 2 gtx 570's while the gtx 570 is clearly the stronger card. evildead6789

i think the 570's in sli are stronger than 2 6950s in crossfire. It is pretty close though...very close.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]since the gtx 580 is already that strong i presume the gtx 595 will be the best but you never know, the hd 5970 is about the same but that's a dual gpu card. If the gtx 595 is a dual gpu card that will be a real monster. But for all we know ati put 5 gpu's on that 6990 . Since i don't like gpu cards i suggest you just crossfire 2 hd 6970's. Ati's scaling in crossfire is better than nvidia , so much better even that 2 hd 6950's beatdown 2 gtx 570's while the gtx 570 is clearly the stronger card. blaznwiipspman1

i think the 570's in sli are stronger than 2 6950s in crossfire. It is pretty close though...very close.

not stronger but you're right about close

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/8

Take the 2 gb versions and it's no longer close i guess...

i dont know how they can put 2 580s on one board. i personally think they will be 2 560s

if they use 580s then i think they will be very short in supply, something like limited edition(as reported) and downclocked

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]since the gtx 580 is already that strong i presume the gtx 595 will be the best but you never know, the hd 5970 is about the same but that's a dual gpu card. If the gtx 595 is a dual gpu card that will be a real monster. But for all we know ati put 5 gpu's on that 6990 . Since i don't like gpu cards i suggest you just crossfire 2 hd 6970's. Ati's scaling in crossfire is better than nvidia , so much better even that 2 hd 6950's beatdown 2 gtx 570's while the gtx 570 is clearly the stronger card. evildead6789

i think the 570's in sli are stronger than 2 6950s in crossfire. It is pretty close though...very close.

not stronger but you're right about close

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/8

Take the 2 gb versions and it's no longer close i guess...

Crysis runs better on AMD cards so it doesnt really matter as I am sure a single 6950 would be pretty close if not better than GTX 570 as well due to AMD's better performance in crysis. And they WERE using 2GB versions.:|

GTX 570 SLI >>>> 6950 CF.

The unofficial rule is: Multi GPU setup is for ATI/AMD. Single GPU setup is Nvidia.xsubtownerx

Your forgetting the GTX460's in SLI.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]The unofficial rule is: Multi GPU setup is for ATI/AMD. Single GPU setup is Nvidia.GTR12

Your forgetting the GTX460's in SLI.

Which are great when it works.

Still single gpu is always better over sli/cf. Sli/cf has got much better but their are still many issues. Part of me still wishes i just got a 570.

Just get 2 GTX570's now and be happy.

GTR12

i think u shud go with nvidia gta 595..

I always don't give all the info immediately because i love to strike down such noobs like yourself, be sure to compare all the games in multiscaling , i'm sure you will see the gtx 570 loses of the 2gb versions.

Fail statement.

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

i think the 570's in sli are stronger than 2 6950s in crossfire. It is pretty close though...very close.

Gambler_3

not stronger but you're right about close

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/8

Take the 2 gb versions and it's no longer close i guess...

Crysis runs better on AMD cards so it doesnt really matter as I am sure a single 6950 would be pretty close if not better than GTX 570 as well due to AMD's better performance in crysis. And they WERE using 2GB versions.:|

GTX 570 SLI >>>> 6950 CF.

did you even read the link properly? The only games where 570 sli beats out 6950 cf is in which probably there are driver issues. For example, anno dawn of discovery, the single 6950 setup is pretty close to a single 580 for results, but in crossfire even the 5870cf beats them out. This is most likely a driver issues right there. The other game where there is a difference is call of duty where a single 6950 gets 127 frames and a single 570 gets 140 frames. When cf/sli the 6950 only gains 23 frames but the 570 gains 80. Again driver issues. Other than these 2 outliers the results are very similar.

did you even read the link properly? The only games where 570 sli beats out 6950 cf is in which probably there are driver issues. For example, anno dawn of discovery, the single 6950 setup is pretty close to a single 580 for results, but in crossfire even the 5870cf beats them out. This is most likely a driver issues right there. The other game where there is a difference is call of duty where a single 6950 gets 127 frames and a single 570 gets 140 frames. When cf/sli the 6950 only gains 23 frames but the 570 gains 80. Again driver issues. Other than these 2 outliers the results are very similar.

blaznwiipspman1

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

did you even read the link properly? The only games where 570 sli beats out 6950 cf is in which probably there are driver issues. For example, anno dawn of discovery, the single 6950 setup is pretty close to a single 580 for results, but in crossfire even the 5870cf beats them out. This is most likely a driver issues right there. The other game where there is a difference is call of duty where a single 6950 gets 127 frames and a single 570 gets 140 frames. When cf/sli the 6950 only gains 23 frames but the 570 gains 80. Again driver issues. Other than these 2 outliers the results are very similar.

Gambler_3

no it just means that the driver issues are probably ironed out by now, 3 months after the original release date and immature drivers were used. Also you can find a 2gb 6950 for $250 after rebate while a 570 usually goes for 350

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

did you even read the link properly? The only games where 570 sli beats out 6950 cf is in which probably there are driver issues. For example, anno dawn of discovery, the single 6950 setup is pretty close to a single 580 for results, but in crossfire even the 5870cf beats them out. This is most likely a driver issues right there. The other game where there is a difference is call of duty where a single 6950 gets 127 frames and a single 570 gets 140 frames. When cf/sli the 6950 only gains 23 frames but the 570 gains 80. Again driver issues. Other than these 2 outliers the results are very similar.

blaznwiipspman1

no it just means that the driver issues are probably ironed out by now, 3 months after the original release date and immature drivers were used. Also you can find a 2gb 6950 for $250 after rebate while a 570 usually goes for 350

And are rebates only available to 6950? The MSRP difference is $70 and that is all there is to it.....

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]So you mean SLI is more consistent? That means it's better if that's the case....

Gambler_3

no it just means that the driver issues are probably ironed out by now, 3 months after the original release date and immature drivers were used. Also you can find a 2gb 6950 for $250 after rebate while a 570 usually goes for 350

And are rebates only available to 6950? The MSRP difference is $70 and that is all there is to it.....

evidence....there are no updated reviews with the latest drivers. Fact is those original reviews were used with mature drivers for the 570 vs the first batch of drivers for the 69xx series. That is not speculation that right there is fact. Also the fact that the nvidia cards scaled better in that one particular game than the radeon cards...doesn't make sense unless the reason for it were imature drivers. I'll agree with you on the rebate deal though i don't like them either so yah the price difference is $70. That coupled with the FACT that the 6950 unlocks to a 6970 make it a much better card for the $$ than the 570

[QUOTE="evildead6789"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

i think the 570's in sli are stronger than 2 6950s in crossfire. It is pretty close though...very close.

Gambler_3

not stronger but you're right about close

http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6950-crossfirex-review/8

Take the 2 gb versions and it's no longer close i guess...

Crysis runs better on AMD cards so it doesnt really matter as I am sure a single 6950 would be pretty close if not better than GTX 570 as well due to AMD's better performance in crysis. And they WERE using 2GB versions.:|

GTX 570 SLI >>>> 6950 CF.

ok i replied to this 2 days ago but since i insulted you on that reply and you reported me i was suspended for two days. I also added the evidence that 6950 2gb versions in crossfire outmatch the two gtx 570's in that reply but it was deleted because you reported me. I won't insult you this time.

You already read my reply(which was deleted) still you go on that the gtx 570 is better in sli giving all the other posters the wrong information.

First

Crysis is 'nvidia the way it's meant to be played' so it doesn't run better on amd cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj3XA74SmKo

Second

The 6950 1gb versions in crossfire outmatch the gtx 570 in sliin crysis but true in that guru3d review the gtx 570 wins in other gamesbut only from the 1 gb versions, not from the 2 gb versions. Let me tell you again that the gtx 570 cost a 100$ more than the hd6950 1gb version and 75$ more than the hd 6950 2gb versions.

These are the benchmarks where the hd 6950 2gb in crossfire is compared to the gtx 570 in sli. You will see that the 2gb versions outmatch the gtx 570's and this for 150$ less.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950-cayman,2818-17.html

I gave given users this informationon other threads too and there you go saying i'm trolling and i'm lying. Again giving posters the wrong information. I'm not going to judge here because i don't want to get suspended again.I'm sure the other posters will make up their own mind.

HD 6950 crossfire > gtx570 sli

I actually did not read your post, it was deleted before I could read. And I never report anyone btw.

I have replied in the other thread but would add one thing here. It doesnt matter if crysis is "nvidia it's meant to be played", ever since the launch of the 5870, AMD has given better performance in crysis and thumbs up for that but you cant really use that as an argument for general superiority.

When crysis launched it was running much better on nvidia hardware but that is not supposed to be the case forever...