Obsidian Entertainment Got thire respect Back?

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#1 kingeliran
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so after fallout new vegas released can, anyone confirme the got the respect they deserve since the release of alpha protocol when they were asamed at the game and i quote, said that "they arent proud of the game".

so what to do say.

Thumbs up Or down?

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#2 Stratacoustix
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I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

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#3 warmaster670
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Id rather play a buggy gem than polished mediocrity, and thats what obsidian makes, buggy gems.

I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

Stratacoustix

You must be new to the internet if you think thats any different with any other game.

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#4 kazakauskas
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I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

Stratacoustix

Ive seen 1 person in this forum so far , and my bud here is playing NV without problems . Heck , im pretty sure you didnt try this game .

Obsidian never lost my respect . I loved AP , playing NWN 2 atm - wonderful game .

And from what ive heard from Kozzy , NV is awesome game , and a lot better RPG than fallout 3 . I know i will be loving this game before i even tryed it lol .

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#5 RyuRanVII
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They always had my respect. Alpha Protocol may have it's problems, but It was one of the games released this year I've enjoyed the most.
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#6 Ragingbear505
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It is in every way better than Fallout 3 and I actually consider it a worthy successor to Fallout 1 and 2. Then again they never lost my respect.

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#7 Treflis
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I've had nothing but respect for Obsidian so as far as I go they never lost it, and I like Alpha Protocol.
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#8 True_Sounds
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And from what ive heard from Kozzy , NV is awesome game , and a lot better RPG than fallout 3 . I know i will be loving this game before i even tryed it lol .

kazakauskas

but kozzy is easy to please :P

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#9 kazakauskas
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[QUOTE="kazakauskas"]

And from what ive heard from Kozzy , NV is awesome game , and a lot better RPG than fallout 3 . I know i will be loving this game before i even tryed it lol .

True_Sounds

but kozzy is easy to please :P

Nah , we both just like bad games :D

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#10 ShimmerMan
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They've never had any respect to gain back. Only by the people who thinks it's "cool" to back crappy buggy video games which could of been great but ultimately failed. And that is where the majority of their fan base is.

KOTOR2 didn't even have a ending. The last quarter of the game was a.w.o.l. All their software is buggy even though they're given a engine and developers kit and software tools too work with. Sure they have potential to make a ground breaking RPG, but they don't do it. And that is the problem.

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#11 kozzy1234
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I love this game, this really is the game I wanted Fallout3 to be. The story is better in this one, the dialogue is WAY better, there are more rpg elements and the atmosphere is miles better.

I didnt think wed ever get a real fallout game again but man this awesome

This game is making me smile like Vince Mcmanon

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#12 SLUSHiNaToR
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I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

Stratacoustix
Im pretty positive that thats just the console versions.. Ive played for about 8 hours now without noticing any issues.
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#13 Legolas_Katarn
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I liked KOTOR 2 and they were forced to rush it. NWN2 was pretty good and got better as time went on from the people I heard from. Alpha Protocol had some problems but had great dialogue, a lot of choices, some good ideas I want to see in other games. I don't see how they lost any. I expect bugs in NV, Obsidian has always had a lot of small bugs on release and Bethesda has always had a lot of small and game breaking bugs, I expect the game to be pretty buggy when the two are both involved.
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#14 GeneralShowzer
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Id rather play a buggy gem than polished mediocrity, and thats what obsidian makes, buggy gems.

[QUOTE="Stratacoustix"]

I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

warmaster670

You must be new to the internet if you think thats any different with any other game.

And Bioware makes the polished mediocrity. You know it's true.
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#16 kdawg88
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They never lost my respect, particularly given that many of Obsidian's people came from Black Ilse. Every team has its ups and downs, and I expect NV to be a very big up.
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#17 kdawg88
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Yes, because taking an idea and video game that was already "built" really makes you a Dev that deserves respect. Not only that, they released a Fallout game that is "buggier" than Fallout 3. Have you noticed that anything Obsidian touches has turned into crap? Dungeon Siege 3 will be next, and I'm sure some of you guys already agree with me on that. Elann2008
I'm not saying that your Gamespot game collection is representative of the games you've actually played, but I don't see on that list Alpha Protocol, any of the Fallout games or either of the Dungeon Siege games, let alone anything developed by either Obsidian or Black Ilse. Don't make unjustified comments.
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#19 paladinqueen
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i give thumbs up

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#20 kozzy1234
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Game is awesome, destorys Fallout3 in every aspect besides maybe graphics are pretty much the same.

I also have not had any big issues either.

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#21 hypoty
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I'm liking it more than Fallout 3. It has the same great atmosphere but I'm finding the premise, pacing and dialogue (especially the dialogue) to be much improved in New Vegas. I'm basing this from the first 5 hours of play, but I'm certain this is going to be a stronger game (with a much better ending).

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#22 Planeforger
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They've never had any respect to gain back. Only by the people who thinks it's "cool" to back crappy buggy video games which could of been great but ultimately failed. And that is where the majority of their fan base is.

ShimmerMan

To be fair, the only devs that make RPGs that aren't completely buggy/broken are Bioware, and they're not exactly pushing the genre forward, to put it lightly.

Also, Troika were generally much worse when it comes to making buggy games, yet they were often considered to be one of the best RPG devs in the business. I think us RPG fans are just more tolerant of bugs, and capable of appreciating the deeper gameplay mechanics and whatnot beneath them.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, they never lost my respect in the first place. Alpha Protocol was a great RPG, with somewhat average gameplay mechanics.

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#23 Gladestone1
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Im enjoying it..Obsidian gets a bad rap..Sure was kotor 2 as good as the first no..It was rushed out the door as others have said..Never winter nigts 2 is a fun game, every one should try it..Very deep rpg elements in the game..The expansions are good fun also..Alpha protocol was a great game on its own..Sure it was a bit buggish as it was..Still playable an not as bad as some of you people make it out to be..Crying about how bad the shooting in the game is..Duh its a rpg, suppose to get better with your weapons as time goes on..So nothing was broken if you realised this..People need to look at what type of game it was not a straight up shooter..It was a rpg, hybrid shooter..The karate was fun as hell when you lvl that up in the game..

Fallout nv..Played last night while talking to kozzy..Said to him it had more rpg elements than fallout 3..Fallout 3 was a bland game until you got to the quest marker..The world was barren an booring...Now ive also noticed a few bugs last night.Saw some blotches in the back ground as i played..It crashed on me once..Im sure these things will be patched up..How ever its a decent game..Just wish people would stop giving obsidian a hard time..Heck at least they try to make a decent, different kind of rpg experience..Im glad there out there an ill buy there games in the future like ive always had..Kozzy your not alone bro..

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#24 dakan45
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Too early to tell.[QUOTE="Stratacoustix"]

I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

But there is that, soooo cant say they made anything diffirent from what they made before that will rank up as better. It is yet another buggy mess from what i have been hearing but its a larger game on an already buggy engine. So again its too early to tell but so far its not looking good.
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#25 kazakauskas
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Too early to tell.[QUOTE="Stratacoustix"]

I'm pretty sure the amount of "Fallout NV runs like crap / is full of glitches" posts all over the internet, including the 15 other posts surrounding this one answer that question.

In short....No.

dakan45

But there is that, soooo cant say they made anything diffirent from what they made before that will rank up as better. It is yet another buggy mess from what i have been hearing but its a larger game on an already buggy engine. So again its too early to tell but so far its not looking good.

The thing is that you only listen about too many game and dont actually try them , but post so much about them :P

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#26 dakan45
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I wont even bother to argue with that. :lol: Mainly because it does not make any sense but the fact still remains that is absolutly randomand arguing about it will lead to another random thing unrelated to the point i was trying to make.So i guess i will not argue about it. Besides everything i have ever said prior to a game release has turned out to be true so i will keep it that way till gamedevelopers prove me wrong. If not true then atleast "right" by my own experiance.

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#27 Born_Lucky
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When I found out about the male prostitutes for men in New Vegas - I lost all respect for Obsidian. That was completely unnecessary, and is a deal breaker.

I was really looking forward to this too.

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#28 Planeforger
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When I found out about the male prostitutes for men in New Vegas - I lost all respect for Obsidian. That was completely unnecessary, and is a deal breaker.

I was really looking forward to this too.

Born_Lucky

I'm pretty sure that the game doesn't force you to use them, nor does it graphically show anything, so I don't see why that should stop you from playing a really good RPG.

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#29 Renevent42
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^ :lol: Anyways... The game so far is fantastic. I agree with those who said the writing, story, pacing, and pretty much everything is tons better. The factions are a lot cooler too. I enjoyed FO3 as well but I think overall NV is just a better RPG. It's not without it's faults though, the game has some pretty poor performance at times and stuttering to the point of detracting from the game. This will probably be addressed at some point so not a huge deal.
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#30 dakan45
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the game has some pretty poor performance at times and stuttering to the point of detracting from the game. This will probably be addressed at some point so not a huge deal.Renevent42
Ahh, same thing with fallout 3. :( I HOPE it will be adressed and fixed. Unlike fallout 3.
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#31 Renevent42
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[QUOTE="Renevent42"]the game has some pretty poor performance at times and stuttering to the point of detracting from the game. This will probably be addressed at some point so not a huge deal.dakan45
Ahh, same thing with fallout 3. :( I HOPE it will be adressed and fixed. Unlike fallout 3.

Not for me...FO3 ran pretty much flawlessly for me on ultra/max settings. The only serious bug/issue I remember with FO3 was it would crash when I exited the game...and if you think about it that's not a huge issue lol.

Oh and I forgot another bug I ran into last night...after a 2-3 hour session earlier in the day I had some stuff to do and stopped plauying for a few hours. When I came back and hit 'continue' the game seemed to have lost hours of progress and my save started way back at level 1. I immediatly exited the game and checked out my save folder. It basically overwrote my progress to an earlier point! Luckily the game also takes backups of every save and I reverted them...which actually didn't work at first. It keept overwriting those to the earlier game state. Finally restarted steam and replaced the files once again which brought my saves back to the correct point.

I am not sure what happened here (does the game use steam cloud?) but almost loosing hours of progress would have REALLY sucked! Be careful and backup often :P

*edit*

Did a little research and the issue is definetly there:

5# Fallout New Vegas Quick/Auto Saves Fix
If you save your progress using autosave/quicksave, the game may revert you back to first quicksave when you restart the game, resulting in loss of all the game progress. Steam cloud may be the problem as there is no fix yet, and disabling steam cloud would disable the achievements.
Though, Steam has come out themselves to disable the Steam cloud for this game, and they are investigating these issues. Meanwhile, use the ESC/Save to save the game manually then using quick save hotkey to save instantly and save a lot. When you start the game again, you may notice that continue starts the game from the quick save so better load the game.

You can speed up the save process by using the console key to save the game. Here's how:

  • Hit the ~ key.
  • Type save "save_mission or zone" and hit enter.
  • When you need to save the game, press ~ console key and press up arrow to get the previous save name, you can either overwrite this save or rename the save file for a different mission or zone.
  • Now when you need to load your saved game, hit the ~ key and type in load "save_mission or zone".

How to Recover Your Saved Progress/Saves in Fallout New Vegas
via Steam Forums

  • Locate the save files folder, My DocumentsMy GamesFalloutNVSaves.
  • Find files that have a *.bak extension. Rename the files with a .bak extension some other extension like .txt for simplicity. Now rename these files as old .bak extensions. Now try quick saving, hopefully it won't revert back to previous saves.
  • If you don't have any saves in there, try:
  • Navigate to your Fallout.ini in the FalloutNV folder and un-check Read-Only.
  • Open the file and search for "SLocalSavePath".
  • In the SlocalSavePath= make sure the folder exists. If it isn't, create the folder with the same name in the specified path.
  • Now, change "iSaveGameBackupCount=1″ to "iSaveGameBackupCount=0″.

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#32 rmfd341
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Bugs happen all the time in Gamebryo engine games, you guys should've gotten used to it by now. It will get fixed.
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#33 Renevent42
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I'm sure it will get fixed, but like I said even FO3/Oblivion on release didn't feel anywhere near as buggy. Of course all of this will vary from person to person but that's my experience so far. Great game with more than expected level of buggyness.
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#34 True_Sounds
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If they spent some time patching up games after release instead of moving their team onto new projects sttraight away, I would have SO MUCH more respect for them as a develeper. It's a shame, but games like Alpha Protocol have had no patches at all to fix gameplay or bug issues. If I remember correctly, KOTOR 2 had fanmade patches to fix some problems, and even then, it was possible to get stuck in a infinite loop of conversations, without an option to progress, if you chose specific answer trees that led to glitches.