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#1 Zaber123
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I'll be getting a Q6600 G0 soon. I really want to overclock it as I'll have an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro on it in a very high airflow case. I also need this CPU to last me 4 to 5 years though. I was wondering, what is the main part of overclocking that shortens the CPUs life? Is it the extra heat, extra voltage, higher FSB, highers speeds (multiplyer), or what?
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I'll be getting a Q6600 G0 soon. I really want to overclock it as I'll have an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro on it in a very high airflow case. I also need this CPU to last me 4 to 5 years though. I was wondering, what is the main part of overclocking that shortens the CPUs life? Is it the extra heat, extra voltage, higher FSB, highers speeds (multiplyer), or what?Zaber123

Heat and voltage.

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#3 whgresiak
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Voltage
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#4 Zaber123
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So if I OC it as high as possible on stock voltage it will last me a good 5 years?
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#5 whgresiak
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yes, but you won't be able to overclock it as fast or Stably
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#6 Zaber123
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That's fine. I was going to go as high as I could on stock voltage where it was still stable. I was going to run two instances of Prime for 8 or so hours to make sure. Doesn't sound like it'll be too hard to get 3.0 from others experiences with the CPU.
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#7 gtarmanrob
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you should hit 3.0ghz on the q6600 easy on stock volts. even stock air cooling. you only need to pump a few extra volts to hit the 3.5ghz range...but if u want the thing to last, dont do it. IMO volts kill the overclock. will shorten the life span from 5 yrs to like 2 or 3yrs max, even if u keep it relatively cool.
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Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

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Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

Zaber123

3.0ghz on a quad core will do you fine for a long while yet. there isnt even a game that utilises dual core yet

im not a chip tech, but im sure they could tell that something has been overclocked hard enough if u crank the volts, coz it could leave some kind of scoring or burning. then again im just guessing and dont really know **** bout how they can tell. put it this way, they can tell if u fry the thing :P

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[QUOTE="Zaber123"]

Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

gtarmanrob

3.0ghz on a quad core will do you fine for a long while yet. there isnt even a game that utilises dual core yet

im not a chip tech, but im sure they could tell that something has been overclocked hard enough if u crank the volts, coz it could leave some kind of scoring or burning. then again im just guessing and dont really know **** bout how they can tell. put it this way, they can tell if u fry the thing :P

Not a game that utilises dual cores yet? Um, Supreme Commander utilises 4 cores, Crysis/WiC/Bio will all use 4 cores. And multiple games out right now utilises multiple cores, multiple. But to stay on topic, 3ghz on a Q6600 should last quite a bit.

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Anyone have experience with trying to redeem the warranty after oc'ing. I think I'm worrying too much, the chances of anything going wrong, even if it has to do with the oc or not, are very small.
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#12 gtarmanrob
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[QUOTE="gtarmanrob"][QUOTE="Zaber123"]

Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

BlackStalker

3.0ghz on a quad core will do you fine for a long while yet. there isnt even a game that utilises dual core yet

im not a chip tech, but im sure they could tell that something has been overclocked hard enough if u crank the volts, coz it could leave some kind of scoring or burning. then again im just guessing and dont really know **** bout how they can tell. put it this way, they can tell if u fry the thing :P

Not a game that utilises dual cores yet? Um, Supreme Commander utilises 4 cores, Crysis/WiC/Bio will all use 4 cores. And multiple games out right now utilises multiple cores, multiple. But to stay on topic, 3ghz on a Q6600 should last quite a bit.

my bad on SupCom...Crysis/WiC/Bioshock arnt out yet...and what games that are out right now actually offer support and advantages for multi core systems? i dont know of any..of course it helps but there isnt a game that says "hey, turn on multi core CPU support and get these advanced features"... Crysis and hl2:ep2 will be using it to process advanced physics calculations.

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[QUOTE="BlackStalker"][QUOTE="gtarmanrob"][QUOTE="Zaber123"]

Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

gtarmanrob

3.0ghz on a quad core will do you fine for a long while yet. there isnt even a game that utilises dual core yet

im not a chip tech, but im sure they could tell that something has been overclocked hard enough if u crank the volts, coz it could leave some kind of scoring or burning. then again im just guessing and dont really know **** bout how they can tell. put it this way, they can tell if u fry the thing :P

Not a game that utilises dual cores yet? Um, Supreme Commander utilises 4 cores, Crysis/WiC/Bio will all use 4 cores. And multiple games out right now utilises multiple cores, multiple. But to stay on topic, 3ghz on a Q6600 should last quite a bit.

my bad on SupCom...Crysis/WiC/Bioshock arnt out yet...and what games that are out right now actually offer support and advantages for multi core systems? i dont know of any..of course it helps but there isnt a game that says "hey, turn on multi core CPU support and get these advanced features"... Crysis and hl2:ep2 will be using it to process advanced physics calculations.

Quake 4 for one, has a dual core patch. I'm sure there are others, but im tired :P

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#14 Anubis_386
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Anyone have experience with trying to redeem the warranty after oc'ing. I think I'm worrying too much, the chances of anything going wrong, even if it has to do with the oc or not, are very small.Zaber123

A while back I heard through a fair few news bits that Intel has a way of checking the CPU to see if it's been overclocked but i wouldn't worry ..

Head to your BIOS, bump the speed in 5-10Mhz increment and let it boot to windows, run a short stress test ... if all is fine then restart and again bump the speed .. keep doing this until you start noticing changes (like Windows taking a bit longer to load, some freezing or anything which doesn't happen like before) then bump it back a bit and try again .. if all boots fine then run your stress tests .. any errors, or if it crashes then drop the speed (your can bump the voltage a bit too tho)

You'll want to run Orthos to stress the CPU (I think it's much better then the rest) and also Intel's TAT (Thermal Analysis Tool) so you can keep an eye on temps (over 60°C is what to look out for)

And if all goes wrong and it won't turn on or anything then simply clear the BIOS by removing the battery

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#15 gtarmanrob
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[QUOTE="gtarmanrob"][QUOTE="BlackStalker"][QUOTE="gtarmanrob"][QUOTE="Zaber123"]

Ya I'm definately not raising volts above stock, even if it is tempting. I'll probably stop at 3.0 ghz even if I can go further on stock vcore.

Also I know that oc'ing voids the warranty, but is there anyway for them to tell? It seems risky to do this then have some stupid thing go wrong and I'm out $300.

WhOOmpa260

3.0ghz on a quad core will do you fine for a long while yet. there isnt even a game that utilises dual core yet

im not a chip tech, but im sure they could tell that something has been overclocked hard enough if u crank the volts, coz it could leave some kind of scoring or burning. then again im just guessing and dont really know **** bout how they can tell. put it this way, they can tell if u fry the thing :P

Not a game that utilises dual cores yet? Um, Supreme Commander utilises 4 cores, Crysis/WiC/Bio will all use 4 cores. And multiple games out right now utilises multiple cores, multiple. But to stay on topic, 3ghz on a Q6600 should last quite a bit.

my bad on SupCom...Crysis/WiC/Bioshock arnt out yet...and what games that are out right now actually offer support and advantages for multi core systems? i dont know of any..of course it helps but there isnt a game that says "hey, turn on multi core CPU support and get these advanced features"... Crysis and hl2:ep2 will be using it to process advanced physics calculations.

Quake 4 for one, has a dual core patch. I'm sure there are others, but im tired :P

no s*it? i didnt know Q4 had one...u know where to find it? what does it actually achieve installing it?

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#16 Zaber123
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Aright, thanks alot guys, you've been a huge help.