Oh LCD Monitor, you were almost perfect.

Just thought I'd add to the PC Hardware soup by expressing my most recent beef with LCD's.

First of all, I have a beautiful Samsung widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. She's a beauty, and I'm so glad I finally got off my"CRT Forever!" kick and made this purchase many month ago.

With that being said, the drawbacks of owning as LCD have caught up to me prematurely thanks to Crysis. I'm running an OC'd E6800, 2G, X1950 and other assorted goodies, but even on medium settings Crysis eats my comp up at my monitor's native resolution. Gone are the days when decreasing my resolution was a viable alternative to sacrificing detailDoing so these days means I have tosuffer through EXTREME jaggies even with AA maxed.

Oh LCD monitor, it's a good thing you're sodamn pretty.

Just thought I'd add to the PC Hardware soup by expressing my most recent beef with LCD's.

First of all, I have a beautiful Samsung widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. She's a beauty, and I'm so glad I finally got off my"CRT Forever!" kick and made this purchase many month ago.

With that being said, the drawbacks of owning as LCD have caught up to me prematurely thanks to Crysis. I'm running an OC'd E6800, 2G, X1950 and other assorted goodies, but even on medium settings Crysis eats my comp up at my monitor's native resolution. Gone are the days when decreasing my resolution was a viable alternative to sacrificing detailDoing so these days means I have tosuffer through EXTREME jaggies even with AA maxed.

Oh LCD monitor, it's a good thing you're sodamn pretty.

Schwah

You should buy a monitor that matches the quality of your graphics card. When you match up the right graphics card with a 22" widescreen LCD, it's a beautiful thing :D

I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.Thinker_145

[QUOTE="Schwah"]

Just thought I'd add to the PC Hardware soup by expressing my most recent beef with LCD's.

First of all, I have a beautiful Samsung widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. She's a beauty, and I'm so glad I finally got off my"CRT Forever!" kick and made this purchase many month ago.

With that being said, the drawbacks of owning as LCD have caught up to me prematurely thanks to Crysis. I'm running an OC'd E6800, 2G, X1950 and other assorted goodies, but even on medium settings Crysis eats my comp up at my monitor's native resolution. Gone are the days when decreasing my resolution was a viable alternative to sacrificing detailDoing so these days means I have tosuffer through EXTREME jaggies even with AA maxed.

Oh LCD monitor, it's a good thing you're sodamn pretty.

F1_2004

You should buy a monitor that matches the quality of your graphics card. When you match up the right graphics card with a 22" widescreen LCD, it's a beautiful thing :D

Well of course, but you're missing my point. My graphics card DID match the quality of my monitor. My point is that with LCD's decreasing resolution is no longer a viable way to extend the life of one's graphics card or CPU. Lowering the resolution a few notches to keep max settings is often a small price to pay for great frame rates and a crisp image on a CRT.

But let me say this again. I don't regret purchasing my LCD because it's amazing. I'm currently workingtwoscreens, my LCD and an old 21"CRT. There's really no comparing the two in terms of quality. The LCD wins by a mile. I just hate the whole native resolution thing and wish I could lower that setting on my LCD without such a MAJOR sacrifice in quality.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.karasill

For you buying an LCD seems justificiable to me cuz your crossfire will kick major ass for a long time on that res.

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

Just thought I'd add to the PC Hardware soup by expressing my most recent beef with LCD's.

First of all, I have a beautiful Samsung widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. She's a beauty, and I'm so glad I finally got off my"CRT Forever!" kick and made this purchase many month ago.

With that being said, the drawbacks of owning as LCD have caught up to me prematurely thanks to Crysis. I'm running an OC'd E6800, 2G, X1950 and other assorted goodies, but even on medium settings Crysis eats my comp up at my monitor's native resolution. Gone are the days when decreasing my resolution was a viable alternative to sacrificing detailDoing so these days means I have tosuffer through EXTREME jaggies even with AA maxed.

Oh LCD monitor, it's a good thing you're sodamn pretty.

Schwah

You should buy a monitor that matches the quality of your graphics card. When you match up the right graphics card with a 22" widescreen LCD, it's a beautiful thing :D

Well of course, but you're missing my point. My graphics card DID match the quality of my monitor. My point is that with LCD's decreasing resolution is no longer a viable way to extend the life of one's graphics card or CPU. Lowering the resolution a few notches to keep max settings is often a small price to pay for great frame rates and a crisp image on a CRT.

But let me say this again. I don't regret purchasing my LCD because it's amazing. I'm currently workingtwoscreens, my LCD and an old 21"CRT. There's really no comparing the two in terms of quality. The LCD wins by a mile. I just hate the whole native resolution thing and wish I could lower that setting on my LCD without such a MAJOR sacrifice in quality.

Just thought I'd add to the PC Hardware soup by expressing my most recent beef with LCD's.

First of all, I have a beautiful Samsung widescreen LCD with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. She's a beauty, and I'm so glad I finally got off my"CRT Forever!" kick and made this purchase many month ago.

With that being said, the drawbacks of owning as LCD have caught up to me prematurely thanks to Crysis. I'm running an OC'd E6800, 2G, X1950 and other assorted goodies, but even on medium settings Crysis eats my comp up at my monitor's native resolution. Gone are the days when decreasing my resolution was a viable alternative to sacrificing detailDoing so these days means I have tosuffer through EXTREME jaggies even with AA maxed.

Oh LCD monitor, it's a good thing you're sodamn pretty.

Schwah

You've got a TN panel?

...thanks to Crysis. I'm running an...X1950...

Schwah

An 8800GT (halfway down this page) or a HD 3870 (halfway down this page as well) should get you in excess of 30 fps in Crysis. The 3850 looks like it would just barely be playable. The 3800 series' performance in crysis is oddly low compared to other games, however. The 3800 series draws less power than the 8800GT in anandtech's tests, both at idle and load. All three cards fall in the "golden" range of 150 to 300 USD, but you really won't be able to get away with spending any less for crysis at 1680*1050. PC gaming is very expensive, which is probably why consoles are so much more popular (sadly).

Good luck.

Nice sig, btw.

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.Thinker_145

For you buying an LCD seems justificiable to me cuz your crossfire will kick major ass for a long time on that res.

The only game that I can't play on 19x12 is Crysis... And has in right now, i don't have crysis... so maybe by than there will be a single graphic card ready for crysis @ that resolution.

Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Thinker_145

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Schwah

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

[QUOTE="Schwah"]

...thanks to Crysis. I'm running an...X1950...

TheLiberal

An 8800GT (halfway down this page) or a HD 3870 (halfway down this page as well) should get you in excess of 30 fps in Crysis. The 3850 looks like it would just barely be playable. The 3800 series' performance in crysis is oddly low compared to other games, however. The 3800 series draws less power than the 8800GT in anandtech's tests, both at idle and load. All three cards fall in the "golden" range of 150 to 300 USD, but you really won't be able to get away with spending any less for crysis at 1680*1050. PC gaming is very expensive, which is probably why consoles are so much more popular (sadly).

Good luck.

Nice sig, btw.

Its not that more expensive... as there is no equivalent for crysis on console.

[QUOTE="Schwah"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Thinker_145

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

Samsung 226BW

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Schwah

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

Samsung 226BW

Yeah that's a TN panel.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Schwah

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

Samsung 226BW

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.Bebi_vegeta

For you buying an LCD seems justificiable to me cuz your crossfire will kick major ass for a long time on that res.

The only game that I can't play on 19x12 is Crysis... And has in right now, i don't have crysis... so maybe by than there will be a single graphic card ready for crysis @ that resolution.

But actually you would be wasting your money and would have been better off with a lower res LCD.And you can get bigger LCD's with lower res.Higher resolutions are more overrated than you would like to think.

[QUOTE="Schwah"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.Thinker_145

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

Samsung 226BW

Do you have a Samsung 226BW? What CRT do you have, and what LCD do you have to compare it to?

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.Thinker_145

For you buying an LCD seems justificiable to me cuz your crossfire will kick major ass for a long time on that res.

The only game that I can't play on 19x12 is Crysis... And has in right now, i don't have crysis... so maybe by than there will be a single graphic card ready for crysis @ that resolution.

But actually you would be wasting your money and would have been better off with a lower res LCD.And you can get bigger LCD's with lower res.Higher resolutions are more overrated than you would like to think.

I don't have a TN panel... I have a S-PVA, so even when I lower the resolution it still looks great. Plus, I don't always play games, I watch movies as well. Maybe high resolution are a waste of money for you, but IMO higher resolution looks better.

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]

[QUOTE="karasill"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"]I dont know when will PC gamers realize that how much they are sacrificing by playing on LCD monitors.But i guess it's their own loss.Bebi_vegeta

For you buying an LCD seems justificiable to me cuz your crossfire will kick major ass for a long time on that res.

The only game that I can't play on 19x12 is Crysis... And has in right now, i don't have crysis... so maybe by than there will be a single graphic card ready for crysis @ that resolution.

But actually you would be wasting your money and would have been better off with a lower res LCD.And you can get bigger LCD's with lower res.Higher resolutions are more overrated than you would like to think.

I don't have a TN panel... I have a S-PVA, so even when I lower the resolution it still looks great. Plus, I don't always play games, I watch movies as well. Maybe high resolution are a waste of money for you, but IMO higher resolution looks better.

To me going alittle lower for native res is tolerable, I don't notice a huge difference in visual quality. The game still looks great.. Top that off that game is really the only I can't run in native resolution.

Also don't bother argueing with Thinker he is on some crusade against LCD's all together.. If the mere mention of a LCD comes into a topic of any kind he will immediatly respond in the damnation of it.. On how any gamer can play with it, yet he plays on a small 17" :|

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Schwah"][QUOTE="Thinker_145"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

[QUOTE="Thinker_145"]Please tell me why.And you said "quality" so dont say that the LCD is slim and looks so good sitting on your desk.F1_2004

Color, clarity, brightness... all that jazz. I've got them side by side so it's easy to compare. And my CRT is no slouch either. It's a nice flat screen multisync.

Samsung 226BW

Do you have a Samsung 226BW? What CRT do you have, and what LCD do you have to compare it to?

lol....this threadis getting dangerously close to getting off topic.....

crysis slays my 8800GT as well since i have the same moniter.....i had to lower the res to get decent Fps.....to bad i'm stuck in the game right now... otherwise i'd be playing it right now.... i freakin hate those damn munchkin aliens....

[QUOTE="TheLiberal"][QUOTE="Schwah"]

...thanks to Crysis. I'm running an...X1950...

Bebi_vegeta

An 8800GT (halfway down this page) or a HD 3870 (halfway down this page as well) should get you in excess of 30 fps in Crysis. The 3850 looks like it would just barely be playable. The 3800 series' performance in crysis is oddly low compared to other games, however. The 3800 series draws less power than the 8800GT in anandtech's tests, both at idle and load. All three cards fall in the "golden" range of 150 to 300 USD, but you really won't be able to get away with spending any less for crysis at 1680*1050. PC gaming is very expensive, which is probably why consoles are so much more popular (sadly).

Good luck.

Nice sig, btw.

Its not that more expensive... as there is no equivalent for crysis on console.

Not that much more expensive? Maybe to people for whom money has no meaning, but to us real people, I can buy an XBOX 360 for much less than $400. A decent graphics card alone is 2 or 3 hundred dollars alone. Don't forget the CPU, RAM, motherboard, PSU, HDD, ODD, keyboard, mouse, and case! Also remember that with a PC, you're going to have to upgrade something pretty much every year, whereas the console requires no upgrades. I won't consider the sound system or monitor since one could argue you need a nice TV and sound system for console gaming as well. The PC is far and away the most expensive gaming machine. If I didn't like PCs and gaming on them so much (read: geek), I wouldn't waste my money gaming on my PC and just get a console. :lol:

Some LCDs can have adjustable resolutions, but you really need to have a 24-27" LCD @ 19x12, which can do 16x10 too. AS for 30" LCDs @ 25x16, they can do 19x12 and 16x10. 9mmSpliff

Spliff, please link where you have seen LCDs that have more than one native resolution. Unless you're talking about black bars around the edges of your screen, I don't know how you could run non-native resolutions on your LCD without great deterioration of the picture.

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]Some LCDs can have adjustable resolutions, but you really need to have a 24-27" LCD @ 19x12, which can do 16x10 too. AS for 30" LCDs @ 25x16, they can do 19x12 and 16x10. TheLiberal

Spliff, please link where you have seen LCDs that have more than one native resolution. Unless you're talking about black bars around the edges of your screen, I don't know how you could run non-native resolutions on your LCD without great deterioration of the picture.

Get a good panel and you wont notice much of deterioration picture.

I have not seen that particular model but i am sure that a "quality" 21" CRT will have better colors.No i am sure my 17" viewsonic has better colors.I have seen plenty of "quality" TN panels and i am sure this one aint much different even if it's considered the best TN panel.Thinker_145

[QUOTE="9mmSpliff"]Some LCDs can have adjustable resolutions, but you really need to have a 24-27" LCD @ 19x12, which can do 16x10 too. AS for 30" LCDs @ 25x16, they can do 19x12 and 16x10. TheLiberal

Spliff, please link where you have seen LCDs that have more than one native resolution. Unless you're talking about black bars around the edges of your screen, I don't know how you could run non-native resolutions on your LCD without great deterioration of the picture.

The pictures did not look horrible.9mmSpliff

If you say so8)