Old motherboard is history, building a new system

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#1 Goodfella_no4
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My old system (2.4 GHz P4 Northwood, Intel 845 motherboard, GeForce 6600 AGP, 1 GB DDR RAM) is KIA. The motherboard appears to be faulty. It doesn't boot into the POST screen and it doesn't detect that I removed the RAM, processor and graphics card... I don't know what this is.

This is my brother's PC, so I am building a new system for him. I need ideas. I already have a good system (P35, E8400, 2 GB 800 MHz DDR2, 8800GT), I don't want to have the same thing again.

Is AMD a viable option? Is the 9850 Black Edition good for gaming?

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#2 Goodfella_no4
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Oh... And if someone can help me with the old motherboard, I will be very grateful.

Can it be fixed?

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#3 imprezawrx500
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have a look at the capaciters and see if any have rounded heads rather than flat ones. rounded means they are blown. you could try and replace them if you are good at soldering or ig you don't care if you completly reck it. it could be a $5 fix
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#4 imprezawrx500
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yeah the 9850 is fine for gaming but you'd be better off going for a 6000x2 as gaming doesn't use more than 2 cores yet. the 8800gt is still a gread card or the radeon 4850 is even better and great value
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#5 marcthpro
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Why you support amd ?
when it lost power impreza ?
the only thing called 6000x2 is amd cpu of weakness and low expensiveness
the famous 40$ cpu http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_phenom_9850_black_edition_review/page10.asp
and to make you think a E8400 or E8500 can be oc to +600mhz without hard troubles. and oc to+800mhz to 1 Ghz With a nice stress-testing.how ever as amd buyer since Amd Duron 700mhz.
I have to switch to straigh intel does of weakness of amd in majority of game and oc possiblity
but im glad it got Straigh up to match E8500 no company should have a super big advtanges.
i heard amd could fight back nehalem BLoomfield in 2010. i wonder how it will performs :P

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#6 Goodfella_no4
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I am thinking about AMD because I want a future-proof PC. Intel is changing their socket, so is AMD, but I can get an AM3 processor and plug it into an AM2+ motherboard. I KNOW that Intel is MUCH better now.

I don't live in the US and I don't buy online. I took a tour in the local computer shops and I am thinking about one of the following scenarios. Note that I won't buy a HDD or optical drive. I will use my old ones.

Rig 1:

Intel E8400, ASUS P5Q-E (or Gigabyte P45-DS3R), Gigabyte Radeon 4850, 2 GB DDR2-800

Rig 2:

AMD 9850 BE, GIGABYTE GA-MA78G-DS3H, Gigabyte Radeon 4850 (or I may stay a while with the built in Radeon HD3200 and wait till the price of the 4870 drops a bit), 2 GB DDR2-800

I am afraid that the 9850 won't work with the 780G motherboard I mentioned earlier because the processor is not officially supported by Gigabyte.

And which is the better board for the Intel system, the ASUS one or the GB one? Also, do I need to get P45 or should I just get a P35 motherboard (as I told you, I already own another PC with a P35 chipset and I am very happy with it)?

Thanks a lot.

By the way, the old motherboard has no blown capacitators or anything looking abnormal. The strange thing is that it sometimes work, but this is very at random, and manages to boot into Windows XP.

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#7 marcthpro
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yes you will be happy your not a gamer like you said.
if you want to play video game with high and hal fof setting medium 2009 that should do fine. i don't judge your way to spend money :) everone use pc differently. mine is for straigh gaming.
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Why you support amd ?
when it lost power impreza ?
the only thing called 6000x2 is amd cpu of weakness and low expensiveness
the famous 40$ cpu http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wolfdale-shrinks-transistors,1773-5.html
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_phenom_9850_black_edition_review/page10.asp
and to make you think a E8400 or E8500 can be oc to +600mhz without hard troubles. and oc to+800mhz to 1 Ghz With a nice stress-testing.how ever as amd buyer since Amd Duron 700mhz.
I have to switch to straigh intel does of weakness of amd in majority of game and oc possiblity
but im glad it got Straigh up to match E8500 no company should have a super big advtanges.
i heard amd could fight back nehalem BLoomfield in 2010. i wonder how it will performs :P

marcthpro

I have had the same experence, Depending on what capaciters are blown it will often power up but not boot and sometime it will just power on for a second then turn off.

yeah intel is faster but amd is good for cheap, but that new e7200 is a steel

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#9 Goodfella_no4
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I am begining to change my mind. I may go the Intel route after all.

I didn't make myself clear: I use the PC for gaming, and I already have a very good and working PC (E8400, Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2 GB DDR2-800, 8800GT 512 MB overclocked). The new system I am talking about is for my brother to replace the old P4 I am talking about.

If I go with the E8400, which motherboard should I go for? The ASUS P5Q-E or Gigabyte EP45-DS3R? Really, both are quite similar but I have never bought an ASUS motherboard before. So what do you think? And finally, although I can't find the P35-DS3R anymore, I can find the P35-DS3L, and it's selling very cheap. Do I need P45 or should I just go to the DS3L?

Thanks to all those who replied.

And by the way, I am not a fanboy for Intel or AMD. I just want something that is good for gaming, and offers good value for money. That's it.

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I am begining to change my mind. I may go the Intel route after all.

I didn't make myself clear: I use the PC for gaming, and I already have a very good and working PC (E8400, Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2 GB DDR2-800, 8800GT 512 MB overclocked). The new system I am talking about is for my brother to replace the old P4 I am talking about.

If I go with the E8400, which motherboard should I go for? The ASUS P5Q-E or Gigabyte EP45-DS3R? Really, both are quite similar but I have never bought an ASUS motherboard before. So what do you think? And finally, although I can't find the P35-DS3R anymore, I can find the P35-DS3L, and it's selling very cheap. Do I need P45 or should I just go to the DS3L?

Thanks to all those who replied.

And by the way, I am not a fanboy for Intel or AMD. I just want something that is good for gaming, and offers good value for money. That's it.

Goodfella_no4

p45 is a less energy effcent p35 with pcie2 it makes basicly no difference and in some cases is slower than p35 based systems. go for the p35 board if you can get it cheap

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[QUOTE="Goodfella_no4"]

I am begining to change my mind. I may go the Intel route after all.

I didn't make myself clear: I use the PC for gaming, and I already have a very good and working PC (E8400, Gigabyte P35-DS3R, 2 GB DDR2-800, 8800GT 512 MB overclocked). The new system I am talking about is for my brother to replace the old P4 I am talking about.

If I go with the E8400, which motherboard should I go for? The ASUS P5Q-E or Gigabyte EP45-DS3R? Really, both are quite similar but I have never bought an ASUS motherboard before. So what do you think? And finally, although I can't find the P35-DS3R anymore, I can find the P35-DS3L, and it's selling very cheap. Do I need P45 or should I just go to the DS3L?

Thanks to all those who replied.

And by the way, I am not a fanboy for Intel or AMD. I just want something that is good for gaming, and offers good value for money. That's it.

imprezawrx500

p45 is a less energy effcent p35 with pcie2 it makes basicly no difference and in some cases is slower than p35 based systems. go for the p35 board if you can get it cheap

P45 is more efficient and faster overall thanks to its 65nm process and ICH10R southbridge.

Not only that, but it also allows x8/x8 CrossFire for mainstream budget enthusiasts.

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#12 Goodfella_no4
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So, which P45 board should I go for?

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#13 marcthpro
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Asus or Gigabites i believe wesker may tell you the exact motherboard
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#14 Goodfella_no4
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I am trying to choose between:

ASUS P5Q-E and Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3R

Both have almost the same price.

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#15 marcthpro
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i heard asus P5Q-E are the easier to overclock compare to gigabites . but wesker may tell us ? or will i have to search over that im not the best motherboard Finder lol but not sure with P5Q VS Gigabites i know for X48 Board Maximus II formula & other. to perofrm good overclock to be honest i haven't overclock once.. but read about lot of stuff i can't know everthing
but as far new & guide tell me how to do stuff .. im pretty well knowing stuff about pc compare to the majority.

i like Asus motherboard so far but gigabites is unknow by me. there some poeple who say IT will crash. go GIgabites in some REVIEW some say don't listen to them the ISSUE IS easy to fix or about to be FIX. and it why it get confusing.
i can't tell someting i don't know but if you have issue wit motherboard i belief both will give support to is customer ....
so wonder why people panic son much on newegg. in some comment.