4 hours to walk across a map, 50 vehicles and the list goes on. Here's a presentation:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37091.html
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4 hours to walk across a map, 50 vehicles and the list goes on. Here's a presentation:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37091.html
As an OFP fanatic.
Big deal this was delivered in OFP - in 2001, and ArmA does it on an even grander scale.
I strongly doubt OFP2 is going to hold that title 'simulation' without Bohemia making it, not to mention its cross platform development is going to impact on the design (and technicals)
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The only thing that was elaborated on was the details and effects of the weapons and objects. Thats really it...
ArmA was released unfinished because the original developers of Operation Flashpoint ran out of money when Codemasters, who owned the rights to the OpFlash name, tossed them.This is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
mrbojangles25
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]ArmA was released unfinished because the original developers of Operation Flashpoint ran out of money when Codemasters, who owned the rights to the OpFlash name, tossed them.This is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
Makari
yes, and that is what? An excuse? Justification?
What makes the matter worse is that as soon as ArmA was released (or even before, for all we know) they were working on an expansion. ArmA was released unfinished, and patches were done halfassed, and then I find out that an unworking game I paid 40 dollars for is getting an expansion from an unfunded developer? WTF is up with that?
I have a feeling that this will be a BF2 rip of with bigger maps. It looks like they are throwing realism out of the window and turning it into yet another generic game. I think I'll stick to ArmA and ArmA2 for a truly unique experience.BlackAlpha666
they wont be throwing realism out the window, why would you even say that. All that video did was show the technology.
Operation Flashpoint 2 will be as much a simulation as the original and great Operation Flashpoint.
ArmA (and ArmA) are the unoriginal titles. ArmA copied the OPF formula is every respect.
[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]I have a feeling that this will be a BF2 rip of with bigger maps. It looks like they are throwing realism out of the window and turning it into yet another generic game. I think I'll stick to ArmA and ArmA2 for a truly unique experience.mrbojangles25
they wont be throwing realism out the window, why would you even say that. All that video did was show the technology.
Operation Flashpoint 2 will be as much a simulation as the original and great Operation Flashpoint.
ArmA (and ArmA) are the unoriginal titles. ArmA copied the OPF formula is every respect.
okay, and i didn't even notice you saying this stuff. what?! i don't think we've been given any reason yet that codemasters won't want to toss realism out the window... the best news by far was PCG's interview with some of the devs. but otherwise; they release multiple trailers that are CGI, they're going multiplat right out the gate.. the signs generally point to 'bad news.' if there was no chance of an OpFlash type game anywhere else i'd not mind so much, but there is. this just reeks of the publisher trying to cash in on a name at the expense of the original developers, and guessing from this thread it's working.[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]I have a feeling that this will be a BF2 rip of with bigger maps. It looks like they are throwing realism out of the window and turning it into yet another generic game. I think I'll stick to ArmA and ArmA2 for a truly unique experience.mrbojangles25
they wont be throwing realism out the window, why would you even say that. All that video did was show the technology.
Operation Flashpoint 2 will be as much a simulation as the original and great Operation Flashpoint.
ArmA (and ArmA) are the unoriginal titles. ArmA copied the OPF formula is every respect.
The people who made ArmA was the ones who made OFP. OFP 2 is made by codemasters.
For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.DanielDust
I think you just don't like realistic game, and I think you won't like OFP either.
OFP2>ArmA>ArmA 2 oscar530
We haven't seen much of OFP2 and why is ArmA better than ArmA 2 :?
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]ArmA was released unfinished because the original developers of Operation Flashpoint ran out of money when Codemasters, who owned the rights to the OpFlash name, tossed them.No that is not true, Bohemia have made plenty of money off OFP - which sold 2 million, and is still at retail, and off Virtual Battle Space, licencing it to armed forces, such as the USMC and ADF.This is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
Makari
[QUOTE="BlackAlpha666"]I have a feeling that this will be a BF2 rip of with bigger maps. It looks like they are throwing realism out of the window and turning it into yet another generic game. I think I'll stick to ArmA and ArmA2 for a truly unique experience.mrbojangles25
they wont be throwing realism out the window, why would you even say that. All that video did was show the technology.
Operation Flashpoint 2 will be as much a simulation as the original and great Operation Flashpoint.
ArmA (and ArmA) are the unoriginal titles. ArmA copied the OPF formula is every respect.
How do you know it will be a sim and 'as great' as the original OFP? The developers arent working on it, and its a cross platform title from the ground up - taking design and technicals into account.What from some CGI trailers and developer commentary? :roll:
ArmA did not 'copy' off OFP. :| ArmA IS OFP, its from the same developers of OFP. ArmA is essentially the true successor to Operation Flashpoint.
ArmA is still the sim that OFP is, its just OFP on a grander scale - not to mention just like OFP, its a modified version of VBS, so arma, as OFP is sold to armed forces for training.
[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]ArmA was released unfinished because the original developers of Operation Flashpoint ran out of money when Codemasters, who owned the rights to the OpFlash name, tossed them.No that is not true, Bohemia have made plenty of money off OFP - which sold 2 million, and is still at retail, and off Virtual Battle Space, licencing it to armed forces, such as the USMC and ADF. They've already said that they released ArmA before it was done due to money issues. :PThis is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
skrat_01
For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.DanielDust
What's so bad about OFP?
Other than somewhat heavy brain requirements, of course.
[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]ArmA was released unfinished because the original developers of Operation Flashpoint ran out of money when Codemasters, who owned the rights to the OpFlash name, tossed them.No that is not true, Bohemia have made plenty of money off OFP - which sold 2 million, and is still at retail, and off Virtual Battle Space, licencing it to armed forces, such as the USMC and ADF. They've already said that they released ArmA before it was done due to money issues. :Preally? Damn, have you got a link per chance?This is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
Makari
[QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.aliblabla2007
What's so bad about OFP?
Other than somewhat heavy brain requirements, of course.
Whas there a need for an insult?:|
I didn't like it, at all. I don't mind games that have "brain" requirements, in fact, RTS games are my 2nd favourite genre and those need "brains". Only FPS that needs "brains" that I like is, Quake Wars, the rest I don't like and if I would put another one, BF2 would be it, the rest suck imo.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source so offend somebody else that doesn't worship a game you like, or grow up.
[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.DanielDust
What's so bad about OFP?
Other than somewhat heavy brain requirements, of course.
Whas there a need for an insult?:|
I didn't like it, at all. I don't mind games that have "brain" requirements, in fact, RTS games are my 2nd favourite genre and those need "brains". Only FPS that needs "brains" that I like is, Quake Wars, the rest I don't like and if I would put another one, BF2 would be it, the rest suck imo.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source so offend somebody else that doesn't worship a game you like, or grow up.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source? Righhhttt....
Anyways, Operation Flashpoint doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. It has to do with one's taste for realism. I loved Operation Flashpoint because it was a huge world, realistic, epic, expansive, and innovative. It also had a great mission creator.
Would they really make a 360/PS3 game as realistic as Arma? I seriously doubt it. But I'm still interested in it anyway, since I kinda prefer semi-realistic games a la Ghost Recon and America's Army over titles like OFP and Arma.mr_mozillaWhich GR? GRAW or The original series?
[QUOTE="mr_mozilla"]Would they really make a 360/PS3 game as realistic as Arma? I seriously doubt it. But I'm still interested in it anyway, since I kinda prefer semi-realistic games a la Ghost Recon and America's Army over titles like OFP and Arma.skrat_01Which GR? GRAW or The original series?The original Ghost Recon made in...2001 I think. It's the only one I really played. Tho I liked GRAW(PC) demo too, just not enough to get it.
This is my most anticipated game.
Operation Flashpoint was amazing
ArmA was a let down
mrbojangles25
With the new patch 1.14 its definitely not a let down, its quite polished up with new game modes and all. That said Arma2 > OFP2 cause BIS(makers of OFP) know what they are doing.
[QUOTE="Makari"]They've already said that they released ArmA before it was done due to money issues. :Pskrat_01really? Damn, have you got a link per chance? This was surprisingly hard to find, honestly.. a lot of Google hits about non-game stuff haha: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=164427
We released the game before Christmas in eastern and central Europe. The reason for this was simple: we ended up on our own with regards to everything. We're not a big company, and we had to release in order to get some income, it's as simple as that. There are sometimes not many choices you can make, it's either 'do something or do nothing'. We're completely independent developers and we didn't find a way to agree with any big publishers. A year ago, nobody believed in the game at all.Marek Spanel - CEO of BIS
OPF2 is going to be a multiplatform release. Taking into account the limitations of the console controllers and memory, I suspect that the developers will be severely hamstrung as to what they can achieve. I also suspect that their design philosophy will be affected by the knowledge of what appeals to the console player base.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that OPF2 will be a console-centric run-and-gun type shooter replete with testosterone-addled, macho man soldier stereotypes that'll make the caricatures from Gears of War seem like well rounded, thoughtful portrayals. Things like realistic wounding, stamina, encumbrance, movement speed, weapons ballistics, weapons swing, engagement ranges, round penetration, command control and communications, and fieldcraft will all be absent or severely limited.
Very true, exactly what im thinking.... I just hope that it doesent turn out as expected, in such a situation...OPF2 is going to be a multiplatform release. Taking into account the limitations of the console controllers and memory, I suspect that the developers will be severely hamstrung as to what they can achieve. I also suspect that their design philosophy will be affected by the knowledge of what appeals to the console player base.
I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that OPF2 will be a console-centric run-and-gun type shooter replete with testosterone-addled, macho man soldier stereotypes that'll make the caricatures from Gears of War seem like well rounded, thoughtful portrayals. Things like realistic wounding, stamina, encumbrance, movement speed, weapons ballistics, weapons swing, engagement ranges, round penetration, command control and communications, and fieldcraft will all be absent or severely limited.
bogaty
[QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.Artosa
Is that because you sucked at the game?
Yeah, because when you don't like a game, you suck at it, no? I guess you are right, it's bad you suck at all the games you don't like :(, sucks to suck like you.
What's so hard to accept that I didn't like it? does it make you feel better to act like a fanboy? because I will tell you know, you won't make me like it, if you continue with these stupid comments, you and the others that post stupid stuff like you and the one before you did.
I bought ArmA when it came out, played it for a bit, then lost interest. I didn't have the patience, but I've installed it again & updated it. It takes a little getting used to, but it's pretty cool. It's a bit frustrating for me because I don't know what to do during these missions. A bunch of soldiers are blurting out seemingly random responses to what's going on so it's a little confusing.
I'll probably stick with this game though, because I'm tired of all the other shooters and I like the realism that the developers were going for. It also seems to be smoother and more polished with the latest patch. That's always a good thing.
You might want to go online and give the co-op mode a whirl. Some of the more experienced hands can give you some pointers and you'll get a better feel for the mission parameters and effective tactics.
I find the guys over at www.simHQ.com to be a good bunch. They're mature, friendly and helpful. Download their mods and join up. They play nightly.
[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.DanielDust
What's so bad about OFP?
Other than somewhat heavy brain requirements, of course.
Whas there a need for an insult?:|
I didn't like it, at all. I don't mind games that have "brain" requirements, in fact, RTS games are my 2nd favourite genre and those need "brains". Only FPS that needs "brains" that I like is, Quake Wars, the rest I don't like and if I would put another one, BF2 would be it, the rest suck imo.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source so offend somebody else that doesn't worship a game you like, or grow up.
I'm sorry for being rude, but when you go around posting stuff like "OFP is crap, worst FPS I have ever played" with that posting sty1e (it looks like you're stating it as fact) in a board full of fans, you deserve to be jumped upon.
Also, you haven't answered my original question. What's so bad about OFP?
[QUOTE="Artosa"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.DanielDust
Is that because you sucked at the game?
Yeah, because when you don't like a game, you suck at it, no? I guess you are right, it's bad you suck at all the games you don't like :(, sucks to suck like you.
What's so hard to accept that I didn't like it? does it make you feel better to act like a fanboy? because I will tell you know, you won't make me like it, if you continue with these stupid comments, you and the others that post stupid stuff like you and the one before you did.
If you don't want other people to flame you I suggest you don't use the word crap to describe other's favorite game, even though you don't like it.
[QUOTE="DanielDust"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="DanielDust"]For me Operation Flashpoint was crap at that time, worst FPS I played well may be not as bad as Ghost Recon, but still bad, but OF 2 looks like it's going to be awesome :) can't wait to see how it is.GodLovesDead
What's so bad about OFP?
Other than somewhat heavy brain requirements, of course.
Whas there a need for an insult?:|
I didn't like it, at all. I don't mind games that have "brain" requirements, in fact, RTS games are my 2nd favourite genre and those need "brains". Only FPS that needs "brains" that I like is, Quake Wars, the rest I don't like and if I would put another one, BF2 would be it, the rest suck imo.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source so offend somebody else that doesn't worship a game you like, or grow up.
Any FPS needs brains except CS 1.6 and Source? Righhhttt....
Anyways, Operation Flashpoint doesn't have anything to do with intelligence. It has to do with one's taste for realism. I loved Operation Flashpoint because it was a huge world, realistic, epic, expansive, and innovative. It also had a great mission creator.
Counter Strike and Counter Strike Source require strategies when you do scrims...Maybe you shouldn't judge a game by its community.
Man, I wonder if that trailer is actually in game footage. If it is, then Crysis has been dethroned as the graphics king!TauruslinkI think it's been mentioned in this thread that the trailer is all CGI 'with some in-game assets.' Basically, it's straight CGI as far as we're concerned right now.
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