Opinions on Guildwars

Dude, dont listen to him^^. He is probably a WoW fanboy trolling. He is right on one point though: It is "free." There is no monthly fee. I love it, but then again, this is the only mmo i play and have played and i thoroughly enjoy it.

the only reason its any good is because its free, if you had to pay for it, it would be the worst mmo there is. but all in all its an alright game. more aimed at kids that cant pay for real MMOsBenTheJamin

That's the truth of it.  As a free game it is fun.  If I had to pay to play, I wouldn't be.....

there is no focus on guilds, there just there to talk to really. the main focus is on pub groups to do instances. the PVP is dreadfulBenTheJamin

  Wow how ignorant can you be?  I have seen far more mature people in Guild Wars then the top MMO's out there, such as WoW..  PVP is far more skillful then any of the two second fights in WoW..  In the end it has nothing to do with skill it has flat out to do with your teams build and the skills of your team.  WoW its ALL about the gear...  

Someone recomended Guild Wars to me. and i wondered if it was any good. my friend said you need lots of guys to help you or you are pretty much killed instantly. are you really dependent on your guild or party. and also can you bring your character from one version of the game to another. you know like bringing your character from factions to nightfall?Darth_Quanstars

One GW is NOT an MMORPG. It is not an online persistant world. The entire game is instanced, even the towns are broken up into different instances called districts. When you are in the field it is instanced for you and your party. You can't see anyone else while you are adventuring. That is not an MMORPG! GW is a regular plain jane ORPG much like Diablo and Diablo 2 are and .hack//fragment was before it got shut down. Arena.net calls it a CORPG (Competitive Online RPG), whatever floats your boat. The bottom line is it is not an MMORPG. MMORPG's are games like Everquest, Final Fantasy XI, EVE, Ragnarok Online, sadly WOW, and so on. GW is not them. It is nothing like them.

Sorry for the rant, but I get really frustrated with the constant ignorance regarding the genre of GW on this forum. Now, to answer your questions.

Yes you need a party. This isn't a game you can solo with just your character beyond the early levels. However, you can get hero's and henches in place of real people as party members, and they make practically everything doable in Prophecies and Nightfall. Factions is a different story though. In Factions you NEED other actual people since the challenges that are thrown at you require the coordination and intelligence of human players that know what they are doing. If you don't believe me try doing the kraken mission where you have to charge that stupid spear with only henches and hero's. You will find that it's practically impossible if you can't constantly interrupt the thing.

Yes you can transport your character, or characters, between the three different campaigns. For Prophecies go to Lions Arch, for Factions go to Kaineng Center, and for Nightfall go to the Kamadan Docks. There is a stupid little Mehnlo quest you do for each one that nets you some xp takes you to the transfer point of the other campaigns.

Sorry to carry on, hope this helps.

i agree with the above poster gw isn't mmorpg and it isn't even an rpg.It acts more like a rts or pvp game than an rpg. They should have just called the game an online pvp or online rts

well the game has its good points and bad points many of which are heaven sents and its problems which are ....difficult to adjust to are what make it not an mmo (I hate it when ppl call GW an MMO). heres an overview of these pro's and con's

good - world is freaking beautiful on high end or new rigs, It has so much armor, and weapon customization that it is fun IN ITSELF to just mess around and change your armor colors, mix colors, and create 1337 weapons. Anyone can have a pet (wether or not they are useful is another matter). the game require the ability to use 8 chosen skills effectively rather than 10-20 skills ineffectively to wipe the floor with everything. The game is very much team based with a heavily oriented team PvP (although their is solo PvP now though). Partying with ppl is not a necessity thanks to free henchman npc's and heros (hero's only in nightfall). its free, you can get drunk and/or up on sugar (always fun). people are very helpful and finding a guild isn't hard (got my first invite in about 20-30 seconds of play). Their are a lot of titles and skills to unlock which always leaves something to earn after you've finished the game (storyline wise).

cons - characters are all human super models, game lacks any long term stuff for the hardcore rpg players (as in campaigns can be done in a month-2 months (with help)). we lack mounts and an auction house (will be in guildwars 2 (most likely)). unless you get other campaigns game can be limited (at times). armor is initially without much choice (appearance wise). anything worth having costs an arm and a leg, expansions come WAY too fast (8 months). Not a game if you live to PK (Player kill (get someone to explain that term for you)). certain profession combos have stereotypes attached such as assassin/monk, Mesmer/anything. game has limited cross server engagement (mainly because no one goes to international districts for anything). professions that come with expansions (ritualist, dervish, paragon, and assassin more specifically) can only be made in the expansion they come in (primary and secondary). ai can be stupid, cheap, or glitchy at times. and finally the games sounds can be very annoying and bothersome after you have logged a lot of time.

hope this helps!

btw profession is arena.net's way of saying job/class/etc.

more like anet made gw to rep rpg players off with their money.  It's a really cheap game for an rpg. If you like rpg don't get it, anet just wants your money

Anet favors their pvp over the rpg there is like nothing to do once you go throught the story line. There is not even any cool mounts and there is no comunity everyone pretty solos pretty much.

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it.  It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG.  I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO.  Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

just be sure to look at some videos or something of the PvP in guild wars before you pick the game up.  it's a great game, but I found the PvP to be almost painfully boring. I don't know about factions or nightfall, but in the original it was extremely strict and every match was done in a VERY specific way.

 tons of people enjoyed that style, I hated it, but either way it was definitely worth a try at playing the game. quite a good game no matter what your preference is for the PvP aspects. 

btw, I would like to point out that the first person to respond to this thread got absolutely everything wrong, 

and has obviously never played the game, so don't take his opinion into account.

Guild Wars has an amazing unique art style , just check out some of the concept art and wallpapers for it , it also has a solid graphics engine, better than WoW's , and it s dependant on skill, with the right build a lvl 17 can beat a lvl 20.

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game. Its nothing like WoW, which is a massive plus point. Why would you want to pay to play a game in which the people who have the best items, and the most playing time are the 'elite'? Guild wars gives you a chance, even in PvP to go against the veterain gamers, and although  you probably wont win for the first few times, you can definately make an impact for your team.

The enviroments, even considering the game is not the newest out there are amazing, (especially the bit in prophecies where you first exit the capital city, to go see the village in the little hollow, woth the waterfall :P) Theres a great array of armours, weapons, upgrades, and theres non of the annoyances of WoW, such as waiting for one graou to do something so that you can. Dont get me wrong, it has its flaws, but it is an excel;ent game. And i so cant wait for GW2, cos thats just gona make WoW look like a waste of hard disk space XD

-jj-

Sorry abot the whole thinking Guild Wars was an MMO. I can see that people are really touchy about that. and thanks for the great avice except for the first guy that posted.

Guild Wars is all about the pvp and, is the only computer game i play for pvp. If you want a look at what a great pvp game Guild Wars is I recommend this:

http://stage6.divx.com/user/nickeales/video/1257427/GWFC-Leipzig-DVD-2

(this is the 2nd World Championship, took place about a year ago so the game has changed a great deal since then)

WHY ARE U ALL DISSING GUILDWARS AND SAYING ITS ONLY GOOD COS ITS FREE...total bull tbh. Gw is brilliant, u dont need help for pve i never needed help and it was the first MMORPG i ever got. Its easy to handle easy to remember what things to do. But to be honest the PvP is shocking and wastes allot of time especially faction farming.

I have had many fond memories of guildwars and some players opn there because the general gaming community in guildwars is that everyone is nice, and also guildwars has an excellent team to basicly ban anyone who hacks. i have known a few of my friends banned trying to hack! idiots!

Guild wars is far from the poor mans rpg. You have to actaully know what to do in order to play the game. You can't just grab any class with any set of skills and go out there except to win. You have to use your mind. If you want to really be good at it you even need MORE then a good build as well. There is timing, energy mangment, and the big one that move people over look and lose because.... movement.WarV

Guild Wars straight up rocks, and all that poor man's rpg crap, haha, ya whatever.

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it. It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG. I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO. Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

GlenQuagmire

So let me get this straight. You played Guild Wars for 35 hours but never enjoyed it? How did you manage 35 hours then? 35 hours is a hell of a load of time to spend on something you don't enjoy doing, nor have to do.

there is no focus on guilds, there just there to talk to really. the main focus is on pub groups to do instances. the PVP is dreadfulBenTheJamin

^This guy knows nothing of the game

I'm in a Guild recently featured onthe official ArenaNet site as Guild of the Week, and the game is a blast for us, we have 100 people in the guild (which is mostly PvE, our sister guild is PvP oriented), and there are always people doing hard-mode, vanquishing areas, or otherwise exploring difficult areas with decent loot. Good stuff!

[QUOTE="BenTheJamin"]the only reason its any good is because its free, if you had to pay for it, it would be the worst mmo there is. but all in all its an alright game. more aimed at kids that cant pay for real MMOsJohnny_Rock

That's the truth of it. As a free game it is fun. If I had to pay to play, I wouldn't be.....

I could say that about any game including WoW. So that point is moot.

here's an opinion of someone who played GW for 1200hrs....

if ppl really stick to the rules (u know , if the noobs just disappear:P ) it will be the best! cus it's VERY FUN if u have a good party , more fun with better parties (ex. the worst mission in proph was way easy and FUN with a great party I had that day , also most times u'll get at least half noobs party and u'll be very angry)

also u can make or use already made builds , those are SO MUCH GREAT! and professional! if u get more chapters of the game , it's better....

if u get in a really freandly , good and big guild , it will be so much fun and helpful , for both PvE and PvP....

it's so big and wonderful , but the real problem is it's not easy to get a good PvE party , or get a good party in PvP unless u have a high rank....

and about , if it's not free I'll never play it ....

if u had to pay a fee , it would be much better...

still they make major updates for it....

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

just-jj-jack

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

[QUOTE="just-jj-jack"]

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

weirjf

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

[QUOTE="BenTheJamin"]the only reason its any good is because its free, if you had to pay for it, it would be the worst mmo there is. but all in all its an alright game. more aimed at kids that cant pay for real MMOsJohnny_Rock

That's the truth of it. As a free game it is fun. If I had to pay to play, I wouldn't be.....

that is coming from pve-orientated wow fans with no ideea how to play

its understandable though, you can take a look at Kevin VanOrd blog about Guild Wars, a guy who plays games every day, reviewer at the biggest gaming website, a "pro-gamer" as you might say, and with no ideea how to play the god dam game

now what to aspect from regular guys who just bought guild wars, played 30-40 hours, and decided the game sucks

well sure it sucks for you and im glad. less newbies to play with

[QUOTE="weirjf"][QUOTE="just-jj-jack"]

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

-Gray_Fox-

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

nowhere in this game you have 8 skills

you either have 8x4 skills, or 8x8 skills, called team builds because its a TEAM game

[QUOTE="-Gray_Fox-"][QUOTE="weirjf"][QUOTE="just-jj-jack"]

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

hatefull

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

nowhere in this game you have 8 skills

you either have 8x4 skills, or 8x8 skills, called team builds because its a TEAM game

Um....each individual chooses 8 skills of possibly several hundred skills. So 8 skills is correct.

U say "Nowhere in the game u have 8 skills" "because its a team game"? I guess u never fought your Doppelganger in Augury rock in prophecies ;).

If you meant strictly PvP, then u must have forgotten Random Arenas, where u don't have team builds.

[QUOTE="GlenQuagmire"]

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it. It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG. I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO. Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

Hexagon_777

So let me get this straight. You played Guild Wars for 35 hours but never enjoyed it? How did you manage 35 hours then? 35 hours is a hell of a load of time to spend on something you don't enjoy doing, nor have to do.

So, I'm not the only one who noticed this guy was quite masochistic to play an horrible game for 35 hours...I mean 35...it's one day and a half... Sorry dude, doesn't sound plausible!!!

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GlenQuagmire"]

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it. It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG. I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO. Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

Isidur_Paine

So let me get this straight. You played Guild Wars for 35 hours but never enjoyed it? How did you manage 35 hours then? 35 hours is a hell of a load of time to spend on something you don't enjoy doing, nor have to do.

So, I'm not the only one who noticed this guy was quite masochistic to play an horrible game for 35 hours...I mean 35...it's one day and a half... Sorry dude, doesn't sound plausible!!!

Are you being sarcastic towards me? :?

Personally, I have over 1000 hours logged in GW over at least a year. There have been patches where I just stopped playing because I couldn't get past anything because no one was willing to do anything or if they did nothing great happened. I'd pick it up again, I'd get past what was blocking me and it'd be fun again. It's starting to get back to how it originally was for me. I'm in it mostly for player contact, not using AI to help me. If I need to use henchmen I do but that doesn't help me. When hard mode came out, I was happy because I'd get to do all the missions again with people and I'd enjoy it for a while. Well... I haven't done too many missions with actual people. For the most part it's with hero's and henchmen.

I would ask one of your friends for a friend code. It's a 14 hour or 10 day trial (whichever comes first) and lets you experience what it's like in the early areas. If you like it, buy it. If not... well no big.

[QUOTE="Isidur_Paine"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GlenQuagmire"]

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it. It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG. I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO. Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

Hexagon_777

So let me get this straight. You played Guild Wars for 35 hours but never enjoyed it? How did you manage 35 hours then? 35 hours is a hell of a load of time to spend on something you don't enjoy doing, nor have to do.

So, I'm not the only one who noticed this guy was quite masochistic to play an horrible game for 35 hours...I mean 35...it's one day and a half... Sorry dude, doesn't sound plausible!!!

Are you being sarcastic towards me? :?

Absolutely not! Infact, I was just underlining the reason why I really believe you were right in criticising GlenQuagmire's opinion and the reason why I believe his opinion is not plausible.

I was sarcastic towards him, not towards you. Sorry if I couldn't make myself clear at the first time.

Dreadful?! WTF sorry but thats just wrong, you obviously haven't played it.

I played Guild Wars since release - moved to wow last year - and 2 months later moved back to GW, in my honest opinion Guild Wars is much MUCH better than WoW will ever be.(I got to level 42 in WoW btw, It's just a massive grind with no fun whatsoever apart from when talking to guildies - and can i just say that I would imagine the average age of the people I met in WoW was about ~12 in guild wars every single one of my guildies is above 25 apart from like 3 who are in their late teens)

[QUOTE="weirjf"][QUOTE="just-jj-jack"]

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

-Gray_Fox-

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

The 'Limited' skill thing is to introduce planning and abit of a challenge into the game so that the skilled players and the ...less skilled players can have fun learning to improve etc its just fun

In WoW for example you could be a lvl 70 idiot and own anyone simply because of that powerlevelling service and your bought gold. Not so in guild wars it's down to skill not money etc

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Isidur_Paine"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="GlenQuagmire"]

I played it for 35 hours according to my Xfire profile, and never enjoyed it. It's a very linear and simple online RPG, and I know the game limits you to eight abilities at a time, but that doesn't make the game any more complex imo.

I think of it as a poor man's online RPG. I just can't play a game like Guild Wars after playing a fully featured online RPG, like a MMO. Diablo 2 is an exception to the rule though.

Isidur_Paine

So let me get this straight. You played Guild Wars for 35 hours but never enjoyed it? How did you manage 35 hours then? 35 hours is a hell of a load of time to spend on something you don't enjoy doing, nor have to do.

So, I'm not the only one who noticed this guy was quite masochistic to play an horrible game for 35 hours...I mean 35...it's one day and a half... Sorry dude, doesn't sound plausible!!!

Are you being sarcastic towards me? :?

Absolutely not! Infact, I was just underlining the reason why I really believe you were right in criticising GlenQuagmire's opinion and the reason why I believe his opinion is not plausible.

I was sarcastic towards him, not towards you. Sorry if I couldn't make myself clear at the first time.

Yea, I figured something like that. Sorry for not being able to realise the first time. I should stop hanging out in System Wars...it really gets to me and my senses it seems.

Guild Wars has an amazing unique art style , just check out some of the concept art and wallpapers for it , it also has a solid graphics engine, better than WoW's , and it s dependant on skill, with the right build a lvl 17 can beat a lvl 20.

gabwa007

You know, you probably get more polygons and effects on screen in WoW at a higher framerate than you do in Guild Wars. But yeah, Guild Wars has the better engine because it looks more realistic eh?

[QUOTE="-Gray_Fox-"][QUOTE="weirjf"][QUOTE="just-jj-jack"]

Guild wars, contry to what all the WoW fanboys say, is a great game.

ShaDoW56

Guild Wars, contrary to what all the Guild Wars fanboys say, is boring and linear.

see how that works? Just because someone hates one game, doesn't mean they are a fanboy of another. Personally I'll take all of the fun games I can get and I will play them all.

I didn't like GW. I played it for 2 weeks and got 2 characters to level 20. I didn't enjoy the limited feel of the PvP, the item creation system was bulky and lame, and the 8-skill limit really left a lot to be desired. PvP should be about picking the best skill for the situation, not hoping you have the best 8 skills against the class you are fighting. Found that to be a very dumbed-down version of PvP. The graphics were... meh...

I did like that you could take NPCs to fill-in for empty slots in your group and they did an OK job at times.

The 'Limited' skill thing is to introduce planning and abit of a challenge into the game so that the skilled players and the ...less skilled players can have fun learning to improve etc its just fun

In WoW for example you could be a lvl 70 idiot and own anyone simply because of that powerlevelling service and your bought gold. Not so in guild wars it's down to skill not money etc

yeah, jumping on a pre-made level 20 and picking out skills that are scissors to another classes' paper plus a heal skill is real tough. That takes so much skill that my 18-month old could do it accidentially.

^^^^^ Are you a betting man? Cause I think I'll take your money on that one.Srinivassa

LOL, now its ON! :)

I think the people who don't like Guild Wars went into the game expecting (or wanting) a MMORPG, which it's not. I know they've tried their best to bill it as a CORPG, but it's always being compared to World of Warcraft in spite of that, even if it has little in common other than your standard RPG base.

I also think that Guild Wars does abetter job of catering to different types of players - you can PvP if you want, and some of the guild versus guild matches can get quite strategic and intense. If you want to farm, you can, though the rewards are not the same as something like WoW. There are high level dungeons for players interested in PvE type stuff, and for those with little time on their hands or a dislike of people, the game is more than playable by yourself with henchmen and heroes. Ignoring some PvP and PvE stuff I've played through all of Guild Wars by myself with computer controlled guys, and while it's not as fun as doing missions with a good group, it's infinitely better than a bad pug and requires very little time investment. Unlike WoW where completing a quest might involve a bunch of grinding and sitting on your ass waiting for the flights from place to place to end, you can click in and out in Guild Wars very quickly and teleport between destinations with a single click.

there is no focus on guilds, there just there to talk to really. the main focus is on pub groups to do instances. the PVP is dreadfulBenTheJamin

there is no focus on guilds, there just there to talk to really. the main focus is on pub groups to do instances. the PVP is dreadfulBenTheJamin