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#1 blangenakker
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Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

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#2 Human-after-all
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That's cuz it's a celery.
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#3 Bikouchu35
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Because overclocking is a myth that pc enthusiats feeds to you and to each other that it actually affects your performance at night but when it in fact it does nearly nothing except for more points 3dmark which is a very big deal and you cannot ignore it. *sarcasm.

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#4 rockzo
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I never Overclock my CPU. I will if i encounter a bottleneck and cant afford a new one. but im really happy with my stock speed of 2.93ghz

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#5 SaPhIrX_lOl
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Have you checked your volts on your PSU? I would not either see any difference with that cpu OC'd to be honest.

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#6 General_X
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From what I understand, in order to see real world gains from overclocking it has to be an order of magnitude higher than what your processor is currently at. .38GHZ is not very good (but isn't surprising if you aren't hardcore into the scene with money sunk into aftermarket cooling).
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#7 kilerchese
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Most gains can only be seen when the OC is over 750MHz or more.

Most overclockers try to go for a 30-50% OC on their CPUs.

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#8 VanDammFan
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Because overclocking is a myth that pc enthusiats feeds to you and to each other that it actually affects your performance at night but when it in fact it does nearly nothing except for more points 3dmark which is a very big deal and you cannot ignore it. *sarcasm.

Bikouchu35

Actually not sarcasm. Over clocking really has never helped anything. Been there and done it. Can cause more problems than anything. If you want something faster buy something faster imho.

People worry too much with numbers and in real world they add up to nothing...I have a friend that goes nuts over 3Dmark. Alwayd upgrading and tweeking and never happy. I have not seen a difference in anything what so ever in the 10 years he's been messin with things..lol

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#9 kilerchese
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Actually not sarcasm. Over clocking really has never helped anything.VanDammFan
Overclocking helps me a LOT.

ESPECIALLY with my i7 920.

I've been doing a lot of video editing and rending and OCing my CPU from it's 2.66GHz stock clock to around 3.6-3.8GHz has decreased my video rending times by 5-30 minutes depending on the length of the video.

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#10 Bigsteve3570
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Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

blangenakker
That's because when your overclock causes your computer to become slower, that generally means it's unstable. Your CPU is probably already overheating or there isn't enough voltage into the cpu for it to run even windows properly. When you overclock on a massive scale it definately does make a difference, especially with a slower rig like mine, where min fps can go WAY up. My 3dMARK06 score without any overclocking is 12114, my 3Dmark06 score with overclocking is 16544; higher depending on if I OC my ram/fsb more than I raise my cpu multiplier. It is certainly noticable in games where my min fps would be 14-15, it will now be 8-9 frames higher. Turning an unplayable or not enjoyable experience into a better situation. Or it will allow you to crank up one/two graphics settings one step further. Now if it has caused you problems, then you really need to do more homework on how to properly OC and make sure that it's 100% STABLE. If it causes many issues, then you're doing it wrong. You can't just slap on numbers in the bios and change two settings then expect everything to work fine just because you have proper cooling >_>.
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[QUOTE="blangenakker"]

Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

Bigsteve3570

That's because when your overclock causes your computer to become slower, that generally means it's unstable. Your CPU is probably already overheating or there isn't enough voltage into the cpu for it to run even windows properly. When you overclock on a massive scale it definately does make a difference, especially with a slower rig like mine, where min fps can go WAY up. My 3dMARK06 score without any overclocking is 12114, my 3Dmark06 score with overclocking is 16544; higher depending on if I OC my ram/fsb more than I raise my cpu multiplier. It is certainly noticable in games where my min fps would be 14-15, it will now be 8-9 frames higher. Turning an unplayable or not enjoyable experience into a better situation. Or it will allow you to crank up one/two graphics settings one step further. Now if it has caused you problems, then you really need to do more homework on how to properly OC and make sure that it's 100% STABLE. If it causes many issues, then you're doing it wrong. You can't just slap on numbers in the bios and change two settings then expect everything to work fine just because you have proper cooling >_>.

I agree with Bigsteve.

I don't have a massive OC on my Phenom II x 4 940 (up to 3.45 from 3.0). But the overclock makes a world of difference in gaming. My stock 3DMark06 score is around 15k, with my OC it pushes things up to around 17k.

Also with my overclock I can run Crysis on all high settings (not ultra high and no AA/AF), whereas I could only make use of a 50/50 mix of medium and high settings on stock speeds.

I'd have to play a whole lot more with my PC to get a better OC, but I'm just fine with what I have....my current issue is that as far as I can tell, one of my 8800GTS 512 cards is crapping out on me. But that's a different matter....

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#12 UltimateGamer95
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Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

blangenakker
that's because a Celeron won't have better performance if you overclock it. The best processors for overclocking are Core 2 Duos, Core 2 quads, Core i5/i7, and AMD Phenom :)
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Celerons are horrible OC'ers. My e8500 went from 3.16ghz to 4.2ghz at 1.598V. And it makes a huge different. First you need the right processor, then the right knowledge to do it, sprinkled with a bit of patience and luck and you'll have a good OC.
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#14 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Because overclocking is a myth that pc enthusiats feeds to you and to each other that it actually affects your performance at night but when it in fact it does nearly nothing except for more points 3dmark which is a very big deal and you cannot ignore it. *sarcasm.

VanDammFan

Actually not sarcasm. Over clocking really has never helped anything. Been there and done it. Can cause more problems than anything. If you want something faster buy something faster imho.

People worry too much with numbers and in real world they add up to nothing...I have a friend that goes nuts over 3Dmark. Alwayd upgrading and tweeking and never happy. I have not seen a difference in anything what so ever in the 10 years he's been messin with things..lol

Oh please, overclocking helps if you know what you're doing.

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[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

Because overclocking is a myth that pc enthusiats feeds to you and to each other that it actually affects your performance at night but when it in fact it does nearly nothing except for more points 3dmark which is a very big deal and you cannot ignore it. *sarcasm.

Bebi_vegeta

Actually not sarcasm. Over clocking really has never helped anything. Been there and done it. Can cause more problems than anything. If you want something faster buy something faster imho.

People worry too much with numbers and in real world they add up to nothing...I have a friend that goes nuts over 3Dmark. Alwayd upgrading and tweeking and never happy. I have not seen a difference in anything what so ever in the 10 years he's been messin with things..lol

Oh please, overclocking helps if you know what you're doing.

Agreed. Overclocking when done properly can and will give a increase in performance IF the speed of the CPU was an issue before. If your GPU or something else is what is holding you back then of course OC'ing the CPU will show no benefit.

I mean saying OC'ing will not help, is basically the same as saying get the slowest speed CPU you can find, they all run the same regardless of speed. Now I know CPU speed is not everything, but it is still part of the equation and it can and does matter.

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#16 SaPhIrX_lOl
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[QUOTE="blangenakker"]

Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

UltimateGamer95

that's because a Celeron won't have better performance if you overclock it. The best processors for overclocking are Core 2 Duos, Core 2 quads, Core i5/i7, and AMD Phenom :)

Now i'm glad i bought quad :P

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#17 X360PS3AMD05
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As a wise man once said, "why overclock a celeron, to make it suck more?" If it's a Core based celeron you would still need to hit the 3.5ghz range and you need a better video card anyway...
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Because overclocking is a myth that pc enthusiats feeds to you and to each other that it actually affects your performance at night but when it in fact it does nearly nothing except for more points 3dmark which is a very big deal and you cannot ignore it. *sarcasm.

Bikouchu35
You have no idea what your talking about...do us a favour and go back to system wars.
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#19 Daytona_178
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Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

blangenakker
Thats probably because your PC is full of junk and Virus's, try running a game and looking at the FPS.
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#20 blangenakker
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[QUOTE="blangenakker"]

Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

Daytona_178
Thats probably because your PC is full of junk and Virus's, try running a game and looking at the FPS.

I can get about 27 FPS on medium settings on Dirt 2 and it's playable Can run Crysis on Medium
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#21 Bikouchu35
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I recommend coughing up 80$ for a used 4870 or 9800gt that can really carry your pc to places. Depending on your resolution your going to use, the key thing is to get your frames out of the 50-60 fps threshold to guarantee smoothless, as long as the game is not a heavy cpu-hitter. Most games rely most your resource on gpu nowadays.

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#22 SaPhIrX_lOl
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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"][QUOTE="blangenakker"]

Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

blangenakker

Thats probably because your PC is full of junk and Virus's, try running a game and looking at the FPS.

I can get about 27 FPS on medium settings on Dirt 2 and it's playable Can run Crysis on Medium

Hmm.. Really? I could play at least on high with 9800gt 512mb, and they are like the same cards?..

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#23 SaPhIrX_lOl
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I recommend coughing up 80$ for a used 4870 or 9800gt that can really carry your pc to places. Depending on your resolution your going to use, the key thing is to get your frames out of the 50-60 fps threshold to guarantee smoothless, as long as the game is not a heavy cpu-hitter. Most games rely most your resource on gpu nowadays.

Bikouchu35

Not what I've heard. These days, games are hungry for RAM. Correct me if i'm wrong, "'i'm just saying".

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[QUOTE="blangenakker"]

Well I overclocked my Intel Celeron E3200 from 2.40 to 2.78(i would overclock it more but it bluescreens at 2.80), i see no difference of the speed of my PC and sometimes it feels like it's going slower.

UltimateGamer95

that's because a Celeron won't have better performance if you overclock it. The best processors for overclocking are Core 2 Duos, Core 2 quads, Core i5/i7, and AMD Phenom :)

What? I'd say the opposite; cheaper processors have more of a performance impact when overclocked. I've overclocked a E2180 Celeron dual core to 3.4GHz, and the performance gain was much more noticeable than when I overclocked my E8400 from 3.0GHz to 4.0GHz+.

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#25 Bikouchu35
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[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

I recommend coughing up 80$ for a used 4870 or 9800gt that can really carry your pc to places. Depending on your resolution your going to use, the key thing is to get your frames out of the 50-60 fps threshold to guarantee smoothless, as long as the game is not a heavy cpu-hitter. Most games rely most your resource on gpu nowadays.

SaPhIrX_lOl

Not what I've heard. These days, games are hungry for RAM. Correct me if i'm wrong, "'i'm just saying".

System Ram? Is more of a threshold that you have to pass, like either you have enough ram or not enough as to where your computing starts choking and locking up, not so much on ram speed. Wheres that funny benchmark with DDr2 vs DDr3?? If your talking about video-ram than a 4870 512mb > 5750 1gb/ Gts 250 and 4850 doesnt even take advantage of 1gb counterpart version of itself.

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I'm not familiar with Intel... but did you disable Intel's version of cool and quiet?
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#27 slayerpker
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WTH???? Um, I guess celerons are OCable?? I just tried on my old Cel 1.8 and OC'd to 3.2 and its running??!?!??!? No BSD yet... WTH intel??!?!?!? I'll continue to test, but im slightly shocked right now...

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#28 BLKR4330
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WTH???? Um, I guess celerons are OCable?? I just tried on my old Cel 1.8 and OC'd to 3.2 and its running??!?!??!? No BSD yet... WTH intel??!?!?!? I'll continue to test, but im slightly shocked right now...

slayerpker

this is actually quite well known among overclockers and pc-enthusiasts. in fact, not too long ago a world record was set on a celeron and semprons have had a good reputation for overclocking mighty far without much effort too.

as for the tc not seeing a performance gain, i guess that probably has a lot to do with what you expect and how you are measuring. in the latter case; not at all in any objective fashion as i understand.

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I never Overclock my CPU. I will if i encounter a bottleneck and cant afford a new one. but im really happy with my stock speed of 2.93ghz

rockzo

You should, you'd be suprised just how much fast your OC'd PC is.

EDIT: The Reason you're getting a BSOD is because it probably need more voltage, you need to test to see if your OC is stable.

Test with Prime95 and use real temp to watch your temps, anything above 65c is unsafe, at least on your celeron.

EDIT 2: " I just build a PC with an E3200 and easily had it at 2.9Ghz (12.5 x 232), and the vCore was at 1.28-1.29. I could have easily gone higher with the Zalman heatsink I used, but the owner of the PC lives in Japan, and I didn't want any chance of instability.

Bump your Northbridge a little, and make sure you aren't OCing your memory beyond its capability. CPUid is good for this. If it says your ram is @430, double it and that is your speed = 860. Make sure you have good ram. I had 4GB of G.Skill Pi @ 1000, and it was flying. Good luck."

EDIT 3: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=467879

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#30 anotherone10
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That's cuz it's a celery.Human-after-all

Celery, nice word adaptation lol

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#31 29121994
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Well, it's probably due to the fact that your cpu is really old and most of todays apps are multithreaded and as such make the most of multiple cores. You should run an actual benchmark to see if it's made a difference.

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#32 Daytona_178
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Well, it's probably due to the fact that your cpu is really old and most of todays apps are multithreaded and as such make the most of multiple cores. You should run an actual benchmark to see if it's made a difference.

29121994
Its a core2duo dude.
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#33 polarwrath11
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I got a very noticeable performance increase going from 2.5GHz to 3.25GHz - difference between Dirt (classic) randomly juddering throughout a race, to never juddering. Sometimes, you can't measure the performance increase in framerate, but random juddering definitely decreases and often a number cannot be put on this as for whatever reason the framerate stays high despite the judder. - this is how I see it
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#34 gamer082009
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That's cuz it's a celery.Human-after-all
Eww, I hate Celeron's and celery!