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#1 drummerboy91
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So I have my build, and I'm enjoying it so far, but I was a bit let down with the performance with games like Napoleon and Crysis. Don't get me wrong, I'm satisfied, but I want to push it a bit more.

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8GB DDR3 (1333)

AMD quad core (3.2 ghz)

GTX 460 (715 mhz)

Resolution: 1440x900

As of now, I can play Crysis on High settings at 1440x900, no AA, with FPS 25-50+. If I put it all on Ultra, no AA,it goes to 20-35. Now I'm really interested in OC'ing my card to 800mhz, but I just want to double check with you all. I understand the risk of a short lifespan, but I was also curious if there was anything else I'm missing...

I'm about to do a bit of research to actuallly learn how to OC, so any advice would help before I actually do it.

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#2 hartsickdiscipl
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I use EVGA precision to overclock my GTX 460. I usually bump the core clock up 10mhz, then run some torture tests (furmark, 3dmark vantage, crysis). If it's stable, I bump the clock up by 10ish mhz again. Rinse and repeat. Then, once you've established your highest stable core clock (no crashing, locking-up, or artifacts), move on to to the VRAM and do the same process.

Unless you mess with your voltages, or you see your temps getting too high, there isn't much risk at all.

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#3 NerubianWeaver
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Max the voltage to 1,087v: @890/1780/4600 If you want more power; use Nibitor then follow these settings: 950/1900/2000 @1.12v
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#4 acsam12304
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go rigth a head and OC it with EVGA Precision. i have a GTX 460 1GB 256bit version and i OC it up to

Core Clock: 860MHz

Shader Clock: 1720MHz

Memory Clock: 2000MHz

and everything is working just fine. download Furmark and use that to stress test your GPU after you OC it just to make sure it doesnt crash. if Furmark during Benchmark crashes it means the OC is not stable so bring it down a bit.

but GTX 460s love to be OCed like crazy, so much that people are claming that you can OC it to a GTX 470 speeds.

but make sure and see how hot your GTX 460 get. if using Furmark it goes up to 73*C with Rendering and Post FX turned on then its ok. then thats ok.

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#5 drummerboy91
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So EVGA is the best overclocking tool? Adjust Core Clock and VRAM, is there anything else?
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#6 drummerboy91
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My card is from Gigabyte, can I still use EVGA's tool?
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#7 dan_plus_o
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Yeah man you can use it just fine!! As long as its a Nvidia Geforce card, EVGA Precision will work. I think you just have to be an EVGA site member in order to download it form the EVGA site. Maybe you could find a download on a third party site though. I have an XFX ATI Radeon card and I use MSI's overclocking program called After Burner.
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#8 drummerboy91
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awesome, I'm going to mess with it tonight... I'll ask questions later :)
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Quick Question actually. Should I just link the core and shader clock when upping it, or do them one at a time? Will it make a difference...
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Quick Question actually. Should I just link the core and shader clock when upping it, or do them one at a time? Will it make a difference...drummerboy91

The core and shader clocks have to be linked when overclocked a GTX 400 series. They will automatically be linked. You don't need to worry about it.. upping to core clock will raise the shader clock along with it.

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#11 drummerboy91
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Alright, so I have my card at 800/1600/1800 using EVGA Precision. I've been running the furmark benchmark, getting to about 68 degrees upon completion.

What settings should I be putting this test at, other than the FX option?

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Alright, so I have my card at 800/1600/1800 using EVGA Precision. I've been running the furmark benchmark, getting to about 68 degrees upon completion.

What settings should I be putting this test at, other than the FX option?

drummerboy91

I run it at my monitor's native resolution on extreme burn mode, usually with 2xAA enabled.

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I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

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how do you tweak voltages in Evga percision??

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#15 RyviusRan
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Furmark will stress your card beyond anything a game can do.

When OCing my old 8800gt from;

600mhz to 730mhz core clock

1566 to 1829mhz shader clock

900 to 1080mhz memory clock

It would crash on furmark after a few minutes went by but I can play any game fine with those clock speeds.

Although I never keep my clocks OCed when not playing games and I only OC for games that need the extra frames.

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I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

drummerboy91

go a head and play crysis all on ultra high. on 800 and even go higher. like i said my GTX 460 is at 860 Core Clock im sure you can get close to 850.

play crysis on ultra and have HWMonitor run in the back ground and play for a few min and then hit Alt+Tab and see what is the temp of your game. im sure it wont get pass 70*C. and if you can play crysis on ultra high for a while smoothly then your fine :). also if you have other very high end games try those too and see if you crash or not

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I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

drummerboy91
Is there a reason for you to squieze the last out? 715 is a very mild OC from the standard 675 but what game really require you to go higher? Been pushing to 800 just for the kicks of it but i cant find a reason to take out the last it has, i settle for ~stock for a 24h race. To be fair in this PC topic: If you really have problem in a game then you migth consider to go higher, if you want to brag in your sig just write a respectable clock there, noone would really care what you have it at anyway as long as it's a gtx460. ;) OC'ing is fun and it's a sport, but you rarely see folks keeping the suicide clocks for gaming, it for benchmarking purpose only, just make the best out of it and do not mess with voltage, thats a good rule for a PC you want running ewry day of the week.
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you using a gigabyte 1 gig gtx 460 with the two fans cooling? if so im using the same card with msi after burner at 843/1686/2003 and voltage at 1050 and i know i can go higher as i have no crashing or problems with any game, i turn fans on 100 and my temps rarely go above 43 degrees even at above settings

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No one mentioned to the TC to setup manual fan profile. EVGA precision tools does it so easily in settings. I run a GTX 460 768mb and my core clock is at 820 etc etc. I idle at 33C and max at 58C using custom fan profile with idle fanspeed at 60% and have to to slowely go up to 80%. My maxes at 56C. It is the 768mb model but I think you will enjoy custom fan speed controls per temp of video card. To members above, Instead of Alt Tabing HWmonitor.. download HWmontitorPRO and just have it set to log. That way, you can make very simple jpeg graphs and see how your system ran.
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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="drummerboy91"]

I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

Is there a reason for you to squieze the last out? 715 is a very mild OC from the standard 675 but what game really require you to go higher? Been pushing to 800 just for the kicks of it but i cant find a reason to take out the last it has, i settle for ~stock for a 24h race. To be fair in this PC topic: If you really have problem in a game then you migth consider to go higher, if you want to brag in your sig just write a respectable clock there, noone would really care what you have it at anyway as long as it's a gtx460. ;) OC'ing is fun and it's a sport, but you rarely see folks keeping the suicide clocks for gaming, it for benchmarking purpose only, just make the best out of it and do not mess with voltage, thats a good rule for a PC you want running ewry day of the week.

I was just a bit let down after getting the card. I figured I'd be able to run the games like Napoleon on Ultra, 4x AA, AO, etc... But instead I run it on high, without AO, no AA. I payed two hundred dollars to upgrade from my old card to benifit from medium to high, and the difference is not even significant? I'm unimpressed... I was led on to believe that this card really maxes games out, but so far, it really hasn't. That's why I wanted to OC. If I were to send the card back and pay the little extra for the GTX 470, would I see major changes then?
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#21 C_Rule
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No, a 460 with a decent overclock is about the same as a stock 470.
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#22 skinntech
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You might wanna try msi afterburner. For some reason that program is soo spot on with the voltages. i used a meter to see how close it was and it hit +/-.02 within the voltage meter i had on the backside of a 480 we tested. really a spot on program.

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[QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="drummerboy91"]

I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

drummerboy91

Is there a reason for you to squieze the last out? 715 is a very mild OC from the standard 675 but what game really require you to go higher? Been pushing to 800 just for the kicks of it but i cant find a reason to take out the last it has, i settle for ~stock for a 24h race. To be fair in this PC topic: If you really have problem in a game then you migth consider to go higher, if you want to brag in your sig just write a respectable clock there, noone would really care what you have it at anyway as long as it's a gtx460. ;) OC'ing is fun and it's a sport, but you rarely see folks keeping the suicide clocks for gaming, it for benchmarking purpose only, just make the best out of it and do not mess with voltage, thats a good rule for a PC you want running ewry day of the week.

I was just a bit let down after getting the card. I figured I'd be able to run the games like Napoleon on Ultra, 4x AA, AO, etc... But instead I run it on high, without AO, no AA. I payed two hundred dollars to upgrade from my old card to benifit from medium to high, and the difference is not even significant? I'm unimpressed... I was led on to believe that this card really maxes games out, but so far, it really hasn't. That's why I wanted to OC. If I were to send the card back and pay the little extra for the GTX 470, would I see major changes then?

a gtx 470 would be overkill for that resolution....and you would need a monitor with a higher res but then again just o'c the card little by little might just help you out.

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#24 swehunt
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[QUOTE="drummerboy91"][QUOTE="swehunt"][QUOTE="drummerboy91"]

I think near 800 is my max,... When I ran the stress test(not the benchmark this time) at 826 it crashed after a couple of minutes. I thought I'd be able to shoot it higher, but oh well... Now I'm adjusting the memory.

EDIT: Hmm. Stress Test crashed againat 800mhz within two minutes... Looks like I might as well keep this thing at 715. :\

I don't see how you guys got yours to 820+... My benchmark completes, but the stress test just kills it.

Is there a reason for you to squieze the last out? 715 is a very mild OC from the standard 675 but what game really require you to go higher? Been pushing to 800 just for the kicks of it but i cant find a reason to take out the last it has, i settle for ~stock for a 24h race. To be fair in this PC topic: If you really have problem in a game then you migth consider to go higher, if you want to brag in your sig just write a respectable clock there, noone would really care what you have it at anyway as long as it's a gtx460. ;) OC'ing is fun and it's a sport, but you rarely see folks keeping the suicide clocks for gaming, it for benchmarking purpose only, just make the best out of it and do not mess with voltage, thats a good rule for a PC you want running ewry day of the week.

I was just a bit let down after getting the card. I figured I'd be able to run the games like Napoleon on Ultra, 4x AA, AO, etc... But instead I run it on high, without AO, no AA. I payed two hundred dollars to upgrade from my old card to benifit from medium to high, and the difference is not even significant? I'm unimpressed... I was led on to believe that this card really maxes games out, but so far, it really hasn't. That's why I wanted to OC. If I were to send the card back and pay the little extra for the GTX 470, would I see major changes then?

RTS games often tax the CPU more than the GPU, what CPU do you have? I think this is a CPU problem rather than a GPU problem, hardly think napoleon is THAT hard to run. A GTX470 is no diffrent from a high OC'ed gtx460 (you were talking about 800Mhz), you won't notice a diffrence besides the GTX470 is hotter much bigger and draws leaps more power and needs two 8pin PCIe pwr conectors the OC isn't as good as the gtx460 either so dont expect it to be much of a diffrence besides tesselation, the only card that currently would beat it by a larger marginal is HD5970, even a gtx480 would be to small of an upgrade, so your looking at sevral hundreds of dollars in price diffrence to see a bigger diffrence. For starters one don't buy a midclass GPU to add 4*AA to the maximum ingame settings, the GTX460 is a great GPU and run just about any game just fine but perhaps not maxxed out with a load of AA, this is in the knowlage of most that buy this card. ? The OC capabileties is great but it won't make an GTX480 of that $150-200 card, if it did noone would buy a gtx480 either. (gah, :P well noone does as of now but it has very little to do with the performance witch still is great.) You can exchange it for a better one but i think you demand too much from it, just get along with the hardware you got, that GPU is a good one. So what magical HW do you use with the gtx460, that might be the problem not directly the gtx460.
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#25 KBFTodd
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....current OC is 821/2021 with fan set at 60%.....has never gone over 55 C. :) 768mb version BTW.

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#26 sn4k3_64
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Hey guys, i want to get the Gigabyte gtx 460 1gb OC version for my birthday and have a question about overclocking it. Firstly without messing with the voltages what is the max speed i can reach please? And secondly is there a way i can just leave the fan on auto? I dont want to mess around with fan speeds that is all. Also, as i only game at 1360x768 res, is there much point in me oc'ing it?

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#27 hartsickdiscipl
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Hey guys, i want to get the Gigabyte gtx 460 1gb OC version for my birthday and have a question about overclocking it. Firstly without messing with the voltages what is the max speed i can reach please? And secondly is there a way i can just leave the fan on auto? I dont want to mess around with fan speeds that is all. Also, as i only game at 1360x768 res, is there much point in me oc'ing it?

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There is no guaranteed overclock speed that you can get out of a GTX 460 (or any card) on stock voltages. Everybody that I've seen has been able to get to at least 800mhz or higher. Mine does about 840mhz on stock voltages, 1910 (955) on the memory. Results will vary. I leave my fan speed at auto, and it never gets hot. Even under full xtreme burnmode at 1080p with 2xAA applied it only hits about 74 degrees C. I've never seen a game get it over 67 degrees C. Very cool-running card. Idle temps are between 28 and 32 degrees C.

Considering that you're only running at 1360x768, I don't think you'll see much benefit from overclocking. Truth is, I don't think you'll see any benefit from getting the 1GB version over the 768mb version at that resolution unless you like to crank the AA up.

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i have the OC gigabyte 460 which i set fans to 100% through MSIand i never go above 45 degrees while gaming, surprisingly the fans arnt very loud either great little card

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#29 swehunt
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....current OC is 821/2021 with fan set at 60%.....has never gone over 55 C. :) 768mb version BTW.

KBFTodd
Just a question, the fan should turn up to 60% with it on auto, why would you want to hear that loud fan all the time?, better to let it rest nice at 40% in idle and let it do what it was supposed to do!
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#30 sn4k3_64
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[QUOTE="sn4k3_64"]

Hey guys, i want to get the Gigabyte gtx 460 1gb OC version for my birthday and have a question about overclocking it. Firstly without messing with the voltages what is the max speed i can reach please? And secondly is there a way i can just leave the fan on auto? I dont want to mess around with fan speeds that is all. Also, as i only game at 1360x768 res, is there much point in me oc'ing it?

hartsickdiscipl

There is no guaranteed overclock speed that you can get out of a GTX 460 (or any card) on stock voltages. Everybody that I've seen has been able to get to at least 800mhz or higher. Mine does about 840mhz on stock voltages, 1910 (955) on the memory. Results will vary. I leave my fan speed at auto, and it never gets hot. Even under full xtreme burnmode at 1080p with 2xAA applied it only hits about 74 degrees C. I've never seen a game get it over 67 degrees C. Very cool-running card. Idle temps are between 28 and 32 degrees C.

Considering that you're only running at 1360x768, I don't think you'll see much benefit from overclocking. Truth is, I don't think you'll see any benefit from getting the 1GB version over the 768mb version at that resolution unless you like to crank the AA up.

Thanks for replying, firstly i know my resolution isnt that high but i think with the newer games being released it will benefit me having the 1gb version and oc'ing it, as i like to have my AA up to at least 4x+ and AF always maxed.. Also the 1gb version isnt that much more expensive :P. Sounds like a great card then, i thought i might have to be fiddling with the fan all the time, but leaving it on auto sounds just fine ^^. Cheers for the replies all, Sean
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#31 sn4k3_64
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i have the OC gigabyte 460 which i set fans to 100% through MSIand i never go above 45 degrees while gaming, surprisingly the fans arnt very loud either great little card

icyseanfitz
Do you have the fans on 100% constantly?
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#32 swehunt
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[QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

i have the OC gigabyte 460 which i set fans to 100% through MSIand i never go above 45 degrees while gaming, surprisingly the fans arnt very loud either great little card

sn4k3_64
Do you have the fans on 100% constantly?

Thats another one... I too like to know the reason for this, it's a waste on the fan and most important its a waste on the ears. The auto fan work brilliant (Apart from not letting the fan rev. down less than 40% on idle.) on any reference gtx460 why would the AF heatsink gtx460 be worce that the reference? (Better cooling is the main feature isnt it?!) Leave the fan just like it is, theres no reason to go bananas and override a fully adeqvate funktion of the card's.
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#33 icyseanfitz
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[QUOTE="sn4k3_64"][QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

i have the OC gigabyte 460 which i set fans to 100% through MSIand i never go above 45 degrees while gaming, surprisingly the fans arnt very loud either great little card

swehunt

Do you have the fans on 100% constantly?

Thats another one... I too like to know the reason for this, it's a waste on the fan and most important its a waste on the ears. The auto fan work brilliant (Apart from not letting the fan rev. down less than 40% on idle.) on any reference gtx460 why would the AF heatsink gtx460 be worce that the reference? (Better cooling is the main feature isnt it?!) Leave the fan just like it is, theres no reason to go bananas and override a fully adeqvate funktion of the card's.

i have the fan on a 100% when gaming but when doing stuff such as web browsing its on auto, my reasoning for this is that my gpu fans arnt that loud and my temps never go over 45 degrees which is brilliant seeing as i have my 460 fairly overclocked

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#34 drummerboy91
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[QUOTE="drummerboy91"][QUOTE="swehunt"] Is there a reason for you to squieze the last out? 715 is a very mild OC from the standard 675 but what game really require you to go higher? Been pushing to 800 just for the kicks of it but i cant find a reason to take out the last it has, i settle for ~stock for a 24h race. To be fair in this PC topic: If you really have problem in a game then you migth consider to go higher, if you want to brag in your sig just write a respectable clock there, noone would really care what you have it at anyway as long as it's a gtx460. ;) OC'ing is fun and it's a sport, but you rarely see folks keeping the suicide clocks for gaming, it for benchmarking purpose only, just make the best out of it and do not mess with voltage, thats a good rule for a PC you want running ewry day of the week.swehunt
I was just a bit let down after getting the card. I figured I'd be able to run the games like Napoleon on Ultra, 4x AA, AO, etc... But instead I run it on high, without AO, no AA. I payed two hundred dollars to upgrade from my old card to benifit from medium to high, and the difference is not even significant? I'm unimpressed... I was led on to believe that this card really maxes games out, but so far, it really hasn't. That's why I wanted to OC. If I were to send the card back and pay the little extra for the GTX 470, would I see major changes then?

RTS games often tax the CPU more than the GPU, what CPU do you have? I think this is a CPU problem rather than a GPU problem, hardly think napoleon is THAT hard to run. A GTX470 is no diffrent from a high OC'ed gtx460 (you were talking about 800Mhz), you won't notice a diffrence besides the GTX470 is hotter much bigger and draws leaps more power and needs two 8pin PCIe pwr conectors the OC isn't as good as the gtx460 either so dont expect it to be much of a diffrence besides tesselation, the only card that currently would beat it by a larger marginal is HD5970, even a gtx480 would be to small of an upgrade, so your looking at sevral hundreds of dollars in price diffrence to see a bigger diffrence. For starters one don't buy a midclass GPU to add 4*AA to the maximum ingame settings, the GTX460 is a great GPU and run just about any game just fine but perhaps not maxxed out with a load of AA, this is in the knowlage of most that buy this card. ? The OC capabileties is great but it won't make an GTX480 of that $150-200 card, if it did noone would buy a gtx480 either. (gah, :P well noone does as of now but it has very little to do with the performance witch still is great.) You can exchange it for a better one but i think you demand too much from it, just get along with the hardware you got, that GPU is a good one. So what magical HW do you use with the gtx460, that might be the problem not directly the gtx460.

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#35 sn4k3_64
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[QUOTE="sn4k3_64"][QUOTE="icyseanfitz"]

i have the OC gigabyte 460 which i set fans to 100% through MSIand i never go above 45 degrees while gaming, surprisingly the fans arnt very loud either great little card

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Do you have the fans on 100% constantly?

Thats another one... I too like to know the reason for this, it's a waste on the fan and most important its a waste on the ears. The auto fan work brilliant (Apart from not letting the fan rev. down less than 40% on idle.) on any reference gtx460 why would the AF heatsink gtx460 be worce that the reference? (Better cooling is the main feature isnt it?!) Leave the fan just like it is, theres no reason to go bananas and override a fully adeqvate funktion of the card's.

Yeah thats exactly what i was thinking, like why bother keep adjusting it manually? Surely if its stressed its going to increase the fan speed itself and keep itself at a safe temp? Im leaving it on auto lol, but im not sure i should even bother overclocking cos i play at a low-ish res anyway ^^