PC Gamer UK Review GTA4 - 92%

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#1 mo0ksi
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Can't find the full review, but it's shown on Metacritic. So click on this thingie. Yeah, this one.
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#2 Tresca_
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Read the review of it last night.  Looking forward to it.

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#3 biggest_loser
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Wow. So is that better than the console version?
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#4 Daytona_178
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Sounds good!
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#5 Tresca_
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Wow. So is that better than the console version? biggest_loser

Yes. The superior PC version gets a lower rating than the console version, so no.

Wait a minute... :|

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#6 thusaha
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That's nice. :)
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#7 fethehl
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Didn't they give Farcry 2 a 8.5 due to it's hype? All hyped games get high scores pretty much.
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#8 Macutchi
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shamelessly copied and pasted :oops: from gtaforum.com. hopefully reliable!

 

A German gamemagazine called "Gamestar" has testetd GTA 4 on PC:

The result:

You will only be able to play on low graphics with a geforce 7900 gtx or gt2!!
On older cards the game crashes!! and on pentium d's and pentium 4's too!
the magazine dont tested it with ATI cards because the game crashed but rockstar said that they will fix this problem!
On older card then a geforce 7900 it maybe will run on 800x600 or lower. on 1024x786 on a geforce 7600 it laggs like hell they say!
The graphics on low are looking like the graphics on the consoles.
The minimum required processor to play the game fine is a amd athlon 64 x2 4000+ or a core 2 duo with the same speed. If someone hs a geforce 8500, the game wil crash!
Remember that Gamestar only tested all low end cards with 1024x768 and not with 800x600 or 640x480!!
they had an older version of the game were ati cards were not supported but in the final version they will be supported
You need atleast for the lowest graphics settings:

3,8 Ghz Intel Pentium D or an AMD Athlon 64 3700+
1 Gb Ram
14,9 Gb HDD Space
A Geforce 7300-7800(not on the requirements but it will run the game on lower settings then 1024x786)(for 640x480 or 800x600) or a 7900 GTX for (1024x768)(You will also run it on a Geforce 6800 but only on 640x480 on low graphics and without trafic or it will lagg)

For medium graphics settings with resolution 1280x1024

Core 2 Duo E4400 or an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2 Gigs of Ram
14,9 GB HDD Space
An Geforce 8800

For High graphics settings with resolution 1680x1050

An Core 2 Duo E8600 or AMD Phenom 9650
4 Gigs Ram
14,9 Gigs HDD Space
Geforce GTX 200

 

- It needs finally 14,9 GB on HDD.
- With a High-End-PC (Core Quad, 4 GB RAM and GeForce GTX280) u can play it on 1680x1050 and maximum details solid, but there also are a bit droprate at fps..
- With a Low-PC (AMD X2 4000+, 1 GB RAM and GeForce 8600 GT) u can play it on 1024x728 and low details without droprates..
- Using a Pentium D or an other Single-Core-CPU the Game crashed..
- ATI Radeon Cards have a lot problems with the performance. It will be fix soon, Take2 said.
- Also with Geforce 7series Cards there are problems.. it will be fix, too. 

 

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credit to the poster ROFL2008

 

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shamelessly copied and pasted :oops: from gtaforum.com. hopefully reliable!

 

A German gamemagazine called "Gamestar" has testetd GTA 4 on PC:

The result:

You will only be able to play on low graphics with a geforce 7900 gtx or gt2!!
On older cards the game crashes!! and on pentium d's and pentium 4's too!
the magazine dont tested it with ATI cards because the game crashed but rockstar said that they will fix this problem!
On older card then a geforce 7900 it maybe will run on 800x600 or lower. on 1024x786 on a geforce 7600 it laggs like hell they say!
The graphics on low are looking like the graphics on the consoles.
The minimum required processor to play the game fine is a amd athlon 64 x2 4000+ or a core 2 duo with the same speed. If someone hs a geforce 8500, the game wil crash!
Remember that Gamestar only tested all low end cards with 1024x768 and not with 800x600 or 640x480!!
they had an older version of the game were ati cards were not supported but in the final version they will be supported
You need atleast for the lowest graphics settings:

3,8 Ghz Intel Pentium D or an AMD Athlon 64 3700+
1 Gb Ram
14,9 Gb HDD Space
A Geforce 7300-7800(not on the requirements but it will run the game on lower settings then 1024x786)(for 640x480 or 800x600) or a 7900 GTX for (1024x768)(You will also run it on a Geforce 6800 but only on 640x480 on low graphics and without trafic or it will lagg)

For medium graphics settings with resolution 1280x1024

Core 2 Duo E4400 or an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2 Gigs of Ram
14,9 GB HDD Space
An Geforce 8800

For High graphics settings with resolution 1680x1050

An Core 2 Duo E8600 or AMD Phenom 9650
4 Gigs Ram
14,9 Gigs HDD Space
Geforce GTX 200

 

- It needs finally 14,9 GB on HDD.
- With a High-End-PC (Core Quad, 4 GB RAM and GeForce GTX280) u can play it on 1680x1050 and maximum details solid, but there also are a bit droprate at fps..
- With a Low-PC (AMD X2 4000+, 1 GB RAM and GeForce 8600 GT) u can play it on 1024x728 and low details without droprates..
- Using a Pentium D or an other Single-Core-CPU the Game crashed..
- ATI Radeon Cards have a lot problems with the performance. It will be fix soon, Take2 said.
- Also with Geforce 7series Cards there are problems.. it will be fix, too. 

 

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credit to the poster ROFL2008

 

Macutchi
Medium with an 8800? Nice optimization
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[QUOTE="anolecrabcf"][QUOTE="Macutchi"]

shamelessly copied and pasted :oops: from gtaforum.com. hopefully reliable!

 

A German gamemagazine called "Gamestar" has testetd GTA 4 on PC:

The result:

You will only be able to play on low graphics with a geforce 7900 gtx or gt2!!
On older cards the game crashes!! and on pentium d's and pentium 4's too!
the magazine dont tested it with ATI cards because the game crashed but rockstar said that they will fix this problem!
On older card then a geforce 7900 it maybe will run on 800x600 or lower. on 1024x786 on a geforce 7600 it laggs like hell they say!
The graphics on low are looking like the graphics on the consoles.
The minimum required processor to play the game fine is a amd athlon 64 x2 4000+ or a core 2 duo with the same speed. If someone hs a geforce 8500, the game wil crash!
Remember that Gamestar only tested all low end cards with 1024x768 and not with 800x600 or 640x480!!
they had an older version of the game were ati cards were not supported but in the final version they will be supported
You need atleast for the lowest graphics settings:

3,8 Ghz Intel Pentium D or an AMD Athlon 64 3700+
1 Gb Ram
14,9 Gb HDD Space
A Geforce 7300-7800(not on the requirements but it will run the game on lower settings then 1024x786)(for 640x480 or 800x600) or a 7900 GTX for (1024x768)(You will also run it on a Geforce 6800 but only on 640x480 on low graphics and without trafic or it will lagg)

For medium graphics settings with resolution 1280x1024

Core 2 Duo E4400 or an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2 Gigs of Ram
14,9 GB HDD Space
An Geforce 8800

For High graphics settings with resolution 1680x1050

An Core 2 Duo E8600 or AMD Phenom 9650
4 Gigs Ram
14,9 Gigs HDD Space
Geforce GTX 200

 

- It needs finally 14,9 GB on HDD.
- With a High-End-PC (Core Quad, 4 GB RAM and GeForce GTX280) u can play it on 1680x1050 and maximum details solid, but there also are a bit droprate at fps..
- With a Low-PC (AMD X2 4000+, 1 GB RAM and GeForce 8600 GT) u can play it on 1024x728 and low details without droprates..
- Using a Pentium D or an other Single-Core-CPU the Game crashed..
- ATI Radeon Cards have a lot problems with the performance. It will be fix soon, Take2 said.
- Also with Geforce 7series Cards there are problems.. it will be fix, too. 

 

----

credit to the poster ROFL2008

 

Medium with an 8800? Nice optimization

I dont want to belive it
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#11 The_Capitalist
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I hope my *old* 8800GT will handle this one fine.
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#12 EndersAres
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I read it. Didn't like the thing about logging into two different services just to play online. MP will probably be bad because of matchmaking gfwl. They haven't said anything about a dedicated server. Also it said the performance with a quad, 8800 had major framerate wobbles. Not really surprising. Bully ran like crap as well.
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#13 zerosaber456
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If I have a AMD Athlon X2 4000+, 2 GB of RAM, and a Radeon x1950 pro do you think I'll get med settings?
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[QUOTE="_rpg_FAN"][QUOTE="anolecrabcf"][QUOTE="Macutchi"]

shamelessly copied and pasted :oops: from gtaforum.com. hopefully reliable!

 

A German gamemagazine called "Gamestar" has testetd GTA 4 on PC:

The result:

You will only be able to play on low graphics with a geforce 7900 gtx or gt2!!
On older cards the game crashes!! and on pentium d's and pentium 4's too!
the magazine dont tested it with ATI cards because the game crashed but rockstar said that they will fix this problem!
On older card then a geforce 7900 it maybe will run on 800x600 or lower. on 1024x786 on a geforce 7600 it laggs like hell they say!
The graphics on low are looking like the graphics on the consoles.
The minimum required processor to play the game fine is a amd athlon 64 x2 4000+ or a core 2 duo with the same speed. If someone hs a geforce 8500, the game wil crash!
Remember that Gamestar only tested all low end cards with 1024x768 and not with 800x600 or 640x480!!
they had an older version of the game were ati cards were not supported but in the final version they will be supported
You need atleast for the lowest graphics settings:

3,8 Ghz Intel Pentium D or an AMD Athlon 64 3700+
1 Gb Ram
14,9 Gb HDD Space
A Geforce 7300-7800(not on the requirements but it will run the game on lower settings then 1024x786)(for 640x480 or 800x600) or a 7900 GTX for (1024x768)(You will also run it on a Geforce 6800 but only on 640x480 on low graphics and without trafic or it will lagg)

For medium graphics settings with resolution 1280x1024

Core 2 Duo E4400 or an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4000+
2 Gigs of Ram
14,9 GB HDD Space
An Geforce 8800

For High graphics settings with resolution 1680x1050

An Core 2 Duo E8600 or AMD Phenom 9650
4 Gigs Ram
14,9 Gigs HDD Space
Geforce GTX 200

 

- It needs finally 14,9 GB on HDD.
- With a High-End-PC (Core Quad, 4 GB RAM and GeForce GTX280) u can play it on 1680x1050 and maximum details solid, but there also are a bit droprate at fps..
- With a Low-PC (AMD X2 4000+, 1 GB RAM and GeForce 8600 GT) u can play it on 1024x728 and low details without droprates..
- Using a Pentium D or an other Single-Core-CPU the Game crashed..
- ATI Radeon Cards have a lot problems with the performance. It will be fix soon, Take2 said.
- Also with Geforce 7series Cards there are problems.. it will be fix, too. 

 

----

credit to the poster ROFL2008

 

Medium with an 8800? Nice optimization

I dont want to belive it

Yes, I hope this is not real. It would be worse than Crysis!
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#15 ShimmerMan
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Sounds like a shoddy port. Or the graphics better be mind blowing on high.
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#16 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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The optimization worries me too. I dearly want this game, but if it will run like crap on my laptop (which could run Crysis on high without a hitch at 1280*800), then I might have to forego GTA4.
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#17 iki080
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we have may found our match with crysis this game sounds pretty awesome on pc
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#18 wood_duck
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God, hope the optimization isnt that bad.
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#19 painguy1
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Yeah id rly dont see that as likely. there are like a billion different supposed system requirments for this game. There still has been no official announcement for this game. has there? lol
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#20 chrisrooR
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we have may found our match with crysis this game sounds pretty awesome on pciki080
Reccommended settings =/= actual graphics. It's probably just piss poor optimization.
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#21 attirex
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....and so the GTA IV hate begins....
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i remember gta sa ran like ass with all it's shadows on, doesn't surprise me here really (sadly)
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....and so the GTA IV hate begins....attirex

Heheheh.. Ohhh that would be a shame... :twisted: My master plan is working...

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LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :P
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#25 Dark_prince123
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damn it is my 7600 gs gonna run it even in low
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#26 rik666
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LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :PDaytona_178
I don't get this (not you - ATI). It's the devs that make them incompatible, they seem to favour nvidia usually, bias or partnership or nVidia having bought them out or whatever, how many times do you boot up a game to see "nVidia - the way it's meant to be played", then compare that to ATI's stamp. A lot rarer. it's so lazy, if these requirements are true, it would be more demanding than crysis, which is stupid, as it doesn't look as good. They just get in there first, and put a good deal down i'm guessing. Leaving ATI, who, lets face it, are ahead of nVidia this series, with the sloppy seconds.
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#27 Enosh88
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LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :PDaytona_178

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

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[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :PEnosh88

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

but it IS ATI's fault for making their graphics cards so much better than nvidias that nvidia has to buy out the devs to do piss poor optimization for ATI cards :lol:

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[QUOTE="Enosh88"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :Pshakmaster13

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

but it IS ATI's fault for making their graphics cards so much better than nvidias that nvidia has to buy out the devs to do piss poor optimization for ATI cards :lol:

QFT.
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#30 naval
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doesn't looks the game is optimized very well ..
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#31 Lach0121
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of course it got a high score, its bought and paid for...

 

look at what it got here/./.

a perfect 10 out of 10.. on the x360... yet in the review when you read it, it says: "the game is not without its flaws" then how did it get a perfect 10 out of 10?

bought and paid for.

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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="Enosh88"]

 

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

-D3ATH-

but it IS ATI's fault for making their graphics cards so much better than nvidias that nvidia has to buy out the devs to do piss poor optimization for ATI cards :lol:

QFT.

i find it hilarious that these people "think" that ati is stomping nvidia, they arent, they are just becoming better competition. lol

but do you realize that the ATI u so adore is owned by AMD, which has been for the past few years getting its A$$ handed to them by intel...

which is why amd is pushing this new Phenom II (am2+) cpu. (hopefully a good upgrade over my 6000+ am2)

im not fanboy of nvidia or intel, im just tired of all the biased BS i see in these forums

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#33 deactivated-64ba3ebd35404
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Wow. So is that better than the console version? biggest_loser
Yes. The PC only reviewers from a PC only magazine gave the PC version of GTA a higher score than the Console version of said game which they didn't review. :)
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medium settings with a 8800 gpu? i dont want to believe it
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#35 THA-TODD-BEAST
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If the performance reports are true, this game is going to bomb tremendously hard.
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#36 Daytona_178
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[QUOTE="Enosh88"]

[QUOTE="Daytona_178"]LOL, ATI strinkes again with incompatible drivers :Pshakmaster13

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

but it IS ATI's fault for making their graphics cards so much better than nvidias that nvidia has to buy out the devs to do piss poor optimization for ATI cards :lol:

Actually NVIDIA have tools that make games more optimized for NVIDIA cards,,,you cant blame them for being more helpful towards the developers! For example in Crysis the developers said that NVIDIA worked very closely with them to help make the game run better....sounds like a good business strategy if you ask me!
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#37 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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medium settings with a 8800 gpu? i dont want to believe itSamiRDuran

 

That is scary. If an 8800 gpu cannot even run GTA4 on high (high, not absolute max), then that just points to bad optimization without second doubts.

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[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="Enosh88"]

 

yeah it's ATIs fault that rockstar can't make their game working on ati cards :roll:

Daytona_178

but it IS ATI's fault for making their graphics cards so much better than nvidias that nvidia has to buy out the devs to do piss poor optimization for ATI cards :lol:

Actually NVIDIA have tools that make games more optimized for NVIDIA cards,,,you cant blame them for being more helpful towards the developers! For example in Crysis the developers said that NVIDIA worked very closely with them to help make the game run better....sounds like a good business strategy if you ask me!

yeah thats pretty much how i feel about it too, now if ati/amd wanted to get with more game devs then it would help them in this department. but what would really help them in this market is this...

have games that are (nvidia, the way it was meant to be played) and (ati, whatever it is they stamp on there lol) both...

cause you will have people that buy the little more pricier nvidia, and you will have the ones that buy the cheaper ati, 

some people like the color green or red, 

some people are bound to listening to their friend too much and go with what they suggest, without even looking into it.

so both companies would make more money.

but some people just wont look at it that way.

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#39 bedram793
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I'll probably run it like crap then. I have 3.3 ram, Intel Core 2 Quad 2.4 GHz, and 256MB 8600GT.
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my sli 9800gtx's can get 100 fps in cod WAW.. 40 fps in crysis warhead... 50 in farcry 2.. but i wont be able to max out grand theft auto.. a console port? LOLWUT?
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#41 naval
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Saw this in gamerankings : PC Format UK gave it a 89%
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#42 ReneRumberg
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Lol guys dont take those german magazine reviews seriously. They tested GTA IV like 1-2 months ago so they probably played uncompleted version of the GTA 4 and it wasn't fully correctly optimized then.
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#43 swazidoughman
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Lol guys dont take those german magazine reviews seriously. They tested GTA IV like 1-2 months ago so they probably played uncompleted version of the GTA 4 and it wasn't fully correctly optimized then.ReneRumberg

I hope so.

I dont wanna play on Slightly higher than medium settings .

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#44 Cranler
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You will only be able to play on low graphics with a geforce 7900 gtx or gt2!!
The graphics on low are looking like the graphics on the consoles.

Macutchi

If this is true then i dont understand all the optimization complaints. 7900 is faster than the consoles gpu on paper but real world performance is very similar. I had the 7900 for awhile and I have a habit of comparing demos of multiplatform games.

The traffic density slider is probably what brings down performance more than anything.