PC gaming alliance = doomed (Nvidia and Intel are already bickering)

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6208&Itemid=1

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/02/21/nvidia-intel-locked-fight-csi

Wow, this 'PC gaming alliance' is looking more and more like a joke. Two major members, Intel and Nvidia, are already bickering.

LMAO, this 'alliance' will get nowhere!

When were they ever NOT bickering? The PCGA does'nt mean all the companies involved are going to hold hands and sing christmas carols. They are still rivals.

LOCK THREAD plz

So what two microprocessor companies (in a heated battle over the market) bumped heads with each other? It's going to happen.sykonfc

I think our friend here has confused the PCGA with the Justice League

It would ruin the PC platform anyways, it's meant to be a open source thing and not try turning it into a console....

... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .OoSuperMarioO

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .CavalAnts

ATI are making very cheap good cards while Nvidia are more one big expensive card. My 3870 cost me £140 and can max out crysis with AA on 2x and have a good 40FPS and it being steady, I could buy 3 of these cards for what a 8800 ultra cost and it would have better performance seeing as you can crossfire 3 up.

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

[QUOTE="CavalAnts"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .Grantelicious

ATI are making very cheap good cards while Nvidia are more one big expensive card. My 3870 cost me £140 and can max out crysis with AA on 2x and have a good 40FPS and it being steady, I could buy 3 of these cards for what a 8800 ultra cost and it would have better performance seeing as you can crossfire 3 up.

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]

[QUOTE="CavalAnts"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .OoSuperMarioO

ATI are making very cheap good cards while Nvidia are more one big expensive card. My 3870 cost me £140 and can max out crysis with AA on 2x and have a good 40FPS and it being steady, I could buy 3 of these cards for what a 8800 ultra cost and it would have better performance seeing as you can crossfire 3 up.

[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="Grantelicious"]

[QUOTE="CavalAnts"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .Grantelicious

ATI are making very cheap good cards while Nvidia are more one big expensive card. My 3870 cost me £140 and can max out crysis with AA on 2x and have a good 40FPS and it being steady, I could buy 3 of these cards for what a 8800 ultra cost and it would have better performance seeing as you can crossfire 3 up.

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

osan0

there's a HUGE difference between debating and bickering in PRIVATE (in offices and conference rooms) and bickering in PUBLIC through the media.

when done in private it can be constructive.

when done in public, through the media, it is almost always destructive.

[QUOTE="osan0"]

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

xuimod

there's a HUGE difference between debating and bickering in PRIVATE (in offices and conference rooms) and bickering in PUBLIC through the media.

when done in private it can be constructive.

when done in public, through the media, it is almost always destructive.

These are two multi-million dollar corporations, slamming a competitor in public as been done for ages now. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you.

[QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="osan0"]

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

sykonfc

there's a HUGE difference between debating and bickering in PRIVATE (in offices and conference rooms) and bickering in PUBLIC through the media.

when done in private it can be constructive.

when done in public, through the media, it is almost always destructive.

These are two multi-million dollar corporations, slamming a competitor in public as been done for ages now. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you.

i just find it very ironic that a month ago, these two companies helped to form a 'gaming alliance' but now they are bickering in public. so much for the 'alliance'.

[QUOTE="sykonfc"][QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="osan0"]

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

xuimod

there's a HUGE difference between debating and bickering in PRIVATE (in offices and conference rooms) and bickering in PUBLIC through the media.

when done in private it can be constructive.

when done in public, through the media, it is almost always destructive.

These are two multi-million dollar corporations, slamming a competitor in public as been done for ages now. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you.

i just find it very ironic that a month ago, these two companies helped to form a 'gaming alliance' but now they are bickering in public. so much for the 'alliance'.

Hence my earlier post, but you obviously find irony in what I see as normal; so I think I'm done here.

You really shouldn't get your news from either fudzilla or theinquierer. The inquierer is famous for writing brain-dead articles that don't even come close to technical accuracy, and also for posting hundreds of unsubstantiated rumors from "anonymous" sources. As for fudzilla...they're not much better.Teufelhuhn

god i hate the inquierer....

They are bickering for the same reasons why intel chipsets are having to use crossfire and not sli. Intel and nvidia arent getting along for some rather.. complicated business relations. Lets just say the it is really a 3 horse race right now. Prior nvidia was able to play both fields. ATI going into AMD cut that off, and there is a conflict between nvidia and intel for certain licenses.

Its pretty messy

Personally i think its time we started some conspiracy theories. I have been wondering why the 9600GT is a G94 while the 9800GTX and 9800x2 are just higher by defailt 8800GTS 512 G92s. Perhaps nvidia has enough money and plans that for the 9 series they plan to give amd/ati a opening to regain some sales, and hurt intel alittle. Hold back the SLI longer, and get intel backed into a corner. Or, that nvidia is seeing that they have no real allies, and when intel DOES finally bring graphical acceleration into the cpu itself it will hurt them greatly.

hmmm

[QUOTE="xuimod"][QUOTE="osan0"]

thats ok. one of the things this alliance is about is form all the big players in the industry to start knocking heads and sorting some stuff out. these companies are essentially competitors....getting them to even talk is an achievement.

hell if nvidia and AMD started bickering and arguing over a standard driver for all GPU hardware then id be delighted.

nothing wrong with knocking some heads together.

sykonfc

there's a HUGE difference between debating and bickering in PRIVATE (in offices and conference rooms) and bickering in PUBLIC through the media.

when done in private it can be constructive.

when done in public, through the media, it is almost always destructive.

These are two multi-million dollar corporations, slamming a competitor in public as been done for ages now. I don't see why this is such a big deal to you.

i think the PCGA is meant more as an entity to help PC gaming in general, it doesn't mean all the massive companies are going to jump into bed together - like someone else said they are rivals at the end of the day. they all have an interest in PC gaming as a medium but are still competing with one anothermatt120282

[QUOTE="matt120282"]i think the PCGA is meant more as an entity to help PC gaming in general, it doesn't mean all the massive companies are going to jump into bed together - like someone else said they are rivals at the end of the day. they all have an interest in PC gaming as a medium but are still competing with one anotherhamidious

Strangely enough however more gamers are non sli or crossfire users. However, the majority that I have seen for stability and overall ocing like the intel chipsets, p35 and soon to be p45, and the x38 and soon tobe x48.

So overall, this is acually helping amd on the graphic side because when someone does want to do more than 1 card, and since most on intel side is intel chipset, they will have to go with either a x2 card, or 2 ati cards in crossfire.

I am sure amd is snickering just a tad.

However I agree that the PCGA isnt having the best of luck on the get go.

[QUOTE="matt120282"]i think the PCGA is meant more as an entity to help PC gaming in general, it doesn't mean all the massive companies are going to jump into bed together - like someone else said they are rivals at the end of the day. they all have an interest in PC gaming as a medium but are still competing with one anotherhamidious

i see your point. however even if the PCGA just gives accurate numbers on PC gaming it would be better than nothing at all, it may stop all the "PC is dead" arguments - and in so doing convince people to maybe return to PC gaming

i think all the hype about PC being over as a gaming platform puts off potential PC gamers, as no-one would want to spend between £500-£1000 (or more) on a gaming platform only to find no games being released for it.

[QUOTE="CavalAnts"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]... I really refuse to invest in a ATi card for high end performance .Grantelicious

ATI are making very cheap good cards while Nvidia are more one big expensive card. My 3870 cost me £140 and can max out crysis with AA on 2x and have a good 40FPS and it being steady, I could buy 3 of these cards for what a 8800 ultra cost and it would have better performance seeing as you can crossfire 3 up.

The 8800GT says hello.