PC gaming and piracy

I just read this article about piracy that was very eye opening, by far the most thorough analysis of the state of PC gaming I've read.

I doubt many people will bother to read it because it is so long, but it really should be read by every person who loves PC games. Without a change in culture the future looks pretty bleak.

Ah yes... The one the anti pirates link and say its "open minded" (not rly)...

Also its super old and im sure that one have been talked about like 200 times on this forum alone. But let the war begin!

Ah yes... The one the anti pirates link and say its "open minded" (not rly)...

Also its super old and im sure that one have been talked about like 200 times on this forum alone. But let the war begin!

KalDurenik

What is there to have a war about? He shows objective facts such as torrent rates vs. sales for a number of games and explains that this is why developers are shifting toward consoles for all but a few types of online game, backed up with numerous developer quotes.

Old as the dinosaurs and a crap read tbh.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]

Ah yes... The one the anti pirates link and say its "open minded" (not rly)...

Also its super old and im sure that one have been talked about like 200 times on this forum alone. But let the war begin!

superfluidity

What is there to have a war about? He shows objective facts such as torrent rates vs. sales for a number of games and explains that this is why developers are shifting toward consoles for all but a few types of online game, backed up with numerous developer quotes.

Im quiet sure it have been proven that its not "objective"... Also there is a easy reason why devs go over to consoles... They get paid money to make games there. But hey! PC only outsell almost all 3 of the consoles together. So clearly it is dying :(KalDurenik

I was referring to objective facts, such as hard numbers on torrent downloads and game sales figures. Also, he covers the developers getting paid idea, have you actually read it?

This has already been posted.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]Im quiet sure it have been proven that its not "objective"... Also there is a easy reason why devs go over to consoles... They get paid money to make games there. But hey! PC only outsell almost all 3 of the consoles together. So clearly it is dying :(superfluidity

I was referring to objective facts, such as hard numbers on torrent downloads and game sales figures. Also, he covers the developers getting paid idea, have you actually read it?

[QUOTE="superfluidity"]

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"]Im quiet sure it have been proven that its not "objective"... Also there is a easy reason why devs go over to consoles... They get paid money to make games there. But hey! PC only outsell almost all 3 of the consoles together. So clearly it is dying :(KalDurenik

I was referring to objective facts, such as hard numbers on torrent downloads and game sales figures. Also, he covers the developers getting paid idea, have you actually read it?

This has already been posted.

kdawg88

I guess I should have qualified my post since this would inevitably happen, but so what?

Also, it has been updated as recently as August, 2010, that post is from 2008.

[QUOTE="KalDurenik"][QUOTE="superfluidity"]

I was referring to objective facts, such as hard numbers on torrent downloads and game sales figures. Also, he covers the developers getting paid idea, have you actually read it?

kdawg88

But hey! PC only outsell almost all 3 of the consoles together. So clearly it is dying :(KalDurenik

I thought it was the complete opposite...

I thought it was the complete opposite...

Remmib

Sadly, it is.

Lets see...

1) There is something about it somewhere (to tired and im going to sleep now) about that...

2) The PC dont have anyone "promoting" it. Do you think Micro$oft is going to say "yeah we sadly consoles are selling less then PC" Ofc they will try to promote their console in the best possible light. On how its the next big thing and yada yada.

[QUOTE="kdawg88"][QUOTE="KalDurenik"] yes a looong time ago... Like the other person said... Its very very very very old. And just so you know (unless it have changed) it dont include private pirate servers or the digital sales (unless they have changed it like i said). But numbers speak for them self... PC outsells almost all 3 of the consoles together. And that is with the dooms day piracy as people say.KalDurenik

I couldn't quite understand your post, but you're forgetting that a lot of people just don't give a damn - they don't have any values and would pirate the game regardless of product/service quality. Piracy does help to sustain a community, but that comes naturally when it's based over an unrestricted medium such as the internet. The challenge is to create an even balance of restriction and fluidity - Steam does this just about right, I'd say.

That time of year again where the "Koroush Ghazi! anti piracy bible" gets whipped up as set in stone facts. No one knows the true facts except this, despite the apparent problems of piracy we are still getting a boat load of games on the PC and the only ones we never see are games that tradtionally bomb on the PC or are held off the PC by console specific deals.

PC only outsell almost all 3 of the consoles together. KalDurenik

Practically every mutiplat games sells better on console. Orange box is probably the only multiplat that sold better on pc in recent history.

The biggest console exclusive of the year was Halo Reach and it outsold Starcraft 2 by a mile.

The bulk of pc gaming revenue is mmo's.