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1GB HD2900XT Crossfire beats 8800GTX SLI

Weird. But welcome news

I think they should have used more benchmarks...but hey, beating the 8800GTX by close to 100 fps is nothing to laught at.

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wow. So, was that test 2 512 MB HD2900XTs in crossfire, or 2 1GB HD2900XTs in crossfire?

Either way, I think we can all safely assume that the new HD2900XT beats the **** out of the 8800 GTX 8)

2 of the new 1GB HD2900XT's I believe. Against two of the 768MB 8800GTX's. It's a relatively fair fight, as the Radeon Rig's Quad-Core is clocked 1/10 of a MHz slower, and the cards retail for, $489 each.

They should have done an AA test, which the HD2900 seems to be crappy on...

Now? frost_mourne13

I spoke too soon, thats OEM

it still has everything you need so long as you have an adequate power supply and a high-speed internet connection

Well, thats in Vista, Crossfire drivers are better than SLI drivers in vista, thats why the HD2900XT 1GB Crossfireowns the GTX SLI, I get over 16000 marks easy in XP withmy QX6700 at 3.4ghz. So if a QX6800 at 3.73 ghz with a GTX in SLI is getting only 12,000 marks, something is messed up. Vista SLI drivers are faulty.Alpha_Omega69

[QUOTE="Alpha_Omega69"]Well, thats in Vista, Crossfire drivers are better than SLI drivers in vista, thats why the HD2900XT 1GB Crossfireowns the GTX SLI, I get over 16000 marks easy in XP withmy QX6700 at 3.4ghz. So if a QX6800 at 3.73 ghz with a GTX in SLI is getting only 12,000 marks, something is messed up. Vista SLI drivers are faulty.mig_killer2

[QUOTE="Alpha_Omega69"]Well, thats in Vista, Crossfire drivers are better than SLI drivers in vista, thats why the HD2900XT 1GB Crossfireowns the GTX SLI, I get over 16000 marks easy in XP withmy QX6700 at 3.4ghz. So if a QX6800 at 3.73 ghz with a GTX in SLI is getting only 12,000 marks, something is messed up. Vista SLI drivers are faulty.mig_killer2

Lol what kind of question is that? If its getting bad scores in 3dmark then its getting bad scores in everything else due to faulty SLI drivers.

Edit: BTW I don't want this to seem like an attack against the HD2900XT card, its a badass card and it has the best bang for the buck ratio I have ever seen, I am just saying that the results in those benchmarks are faulty.

:lol:. Nvidia drivers for Vista dont support SLI. These results from GTX SLI are compareable to 1 GTX. Hell in Company of heroes even i get more frames whit rig in sig, than GTX SLI and quad core. Probably cause i use XP.

They actaully benched only single GTX. Whit quad core clocked at those speeds whit GTX you get same score.

Two GTXs with good drivers should get around 18,000 and 20,000 and totally kick radeon asses. You can call me fanboy but thats how it is.

Hopefully nvidia drivers will support SLI in Vista whit next release. By than its useless to compare 1 GTX againts Dual 2900XT in CF.

Thats not the true power of 2 GTXs but its the true power of one as we all know.

wow, dammit just got the luckiest break ever, now if the same with barcelona happens then we might just see dammit get back on its feet. lets hope we get price cuts now for these cards. I really think I'm gana wait until I see crysis benchs before I buy any of these cards. filmography

Have you even look at tests. GTX SLI is as powerfull as one GTX. I wouldnt be so exited about new radeon.

Domke, Nvidia does support SLI in Vista, their just not that good yet. The crossfire drivers are way better than the SLI drivers. When it comes to the future though, if games start supporting AA by stream processors, the GTX will get owned by the HD200XT, but currently that card sucks with AA. Hopefully when that time comes ill get a new Nvidia card :PAlpha_Omega69

lol. Yeah. But these arent results of SLI. They arent even better than of single GTX. I wouldnt call that support for SLI.

About AA by stream processors i doubt that developers will use it when Geforce whit same thing comes out.

Developers arent that stupid to make a game that on most cards wont run good whit AA.

Muchmore ppls have 8800 cards than 2900. So why make a game that will run better on cards which most ppl dont have.

When Nvidia cards will came out whit same support they will start to make them.

Have you even look at tests. GTX SLI is as powerfull as one GTX. I wouldnt be so exited about new radeon.

domke13

I would say bad drivers are the luckiest break dammit can get. Seriously I dont know whats wrong with nvidia and they will start to lose money if they keep this bad vista performance up. Crysis is coming and nvidia should be trying to improve vista drivers including SLI, and having your enemy snoozing is a very LUCKY break, dont you agree?

[QUOTE="domke13"]

Have you even look at tests. GTX SLI is as powerfull as one GTX. I wouldnt be so exited about new radeon.

filmography

I would say bad drivers are the luckiest break dammit can get. Seriously I dont know whats wrong with nvidia and they will start to lose money if they keep this bad vista performance up. Crysis is coming and nvidia should be trying to improve vista drivers including SLI, and having your enemy snoozing is a very LUCKY break, dont you agree?

You are completely right. Nvidia needs to stop **** ppls and make some decent drivers to show what their cards are capable of.

[QUOTE="domke13"]

Have you even look at tests. GTX SLI is as powerfull as one GTX. I wouldnt be so exited about new radeon.

filmography

I would say bad drivers are the luckiest break dammit can get. Seriously I dont know whats wrong with nvidia and they will start to lose money if they keep this bad vista performance up. Crysis is coming and nvidia should be trying to improve vista drivers including SLI, and having your enemy snoozing is a very LUCKY break, dont you agree?

Yep agree with you there, Nvidia better pick up their asses and get a movin with driver development. DX10 SLI is still in beta. DX9 SLI doesnt seem to be working right. Crysis is coming this Fall, I just hope they can fix this crap by then.

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

[QUOTE="domke13"]

Have you even look at tests. GTX SLI is as powerfull as one GTX. I wouldnt be so exited about new radeon.

filmography

I would say bad drivers are the luckiest break dammit can get. Seriously I dont know whats wrong with nvidia and they will start to lose money if they keep this bad vista performance up. Crysis is coming and nvidia should be trying to improve vista drivers including SLI, and having your enemy snoozing is a very LUCKY break, dont you agree?

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

LahiruD

Here you got link of some guy whit GTX SLi and qaud clocked at 3.6: more than 17k points.

you know there's something wrong when the dell clocked lower then northwest beats it.

Theses benchmark make no sense at all, people with single GTX can do almost 12000 when oveclocked.

DirkVDV01

well getting sued by angry customers is a little extreme, and when your competition has better drivers its natural for people to flock to the now not the future, and with crysis coming out soon people wont care anymore about lolyaties to dammit or intel/nvidia they will care about what will max this game at the best cost, and if ATI gets better benchs in crysis because of nvidia's snoozing driver development team you can beat nvidia would have just lost sales.

does high resolution smooth out jaggies? I only have 1280x1020 and I use AA in my games, and it looks soooooooo much better than without AA

I dont get why people nock on its performance in AA. They are designed to be streamed through the processors. Plus i dont even use AA when playing because i play at a high enough resolution to were you cant see jaggies anyways. Im not saying GTX sucks. I just say give the 2900 series a chance. The drivers have been getting from what i have heard. And once games start using AA through stream processors. Its over for the GTX. But until then.Killfox

We dont know if games will use AA through shaders. We dont know if microsoft will include it in DX 10.1, if it wont than there is little chance that that kind of AA will be used, only if nvidia release product whit same kind of AA.

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

LahiruD

Lol I knew someone would bring it up, ok I lied I didn't get that much...NOT! Here is a pic http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2623/untitledta2.png

I dont get why people nock on its performance in AA. They are designed to be streamed through the processors. Plus i dont even use AA when playing because i play at a high enough resolution to were you cant see jaggies anyways. Im not saying GTX sucks. I just say give the 2900 series a chance. The drivers have been getting from what i have heard. And once games start using AA through stream processors. Its over for the GTX. But until then.Killfox

Yeah its true that you don't need AA at high reses, but not everyone is gaming at a res of 1920 by 1200, so AA is a must for some people. And yes its over for the GTX if games do AA through stream processors, but thats not any time soon since that would mean only people with 2900 cards would be able to run AA with good FPS. And that would mean the game devs would decrease the amount of people being able to play the game therefore not many people would buy such a game if they do not have a 2900. Only an insane developer would make a game for one family of graphic cards.

[QUOTE="LahiruD"]

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

Alpha_Omega69

Lol I knew someone would bring it up, ok I lied I didn't get that much...NOT! Here is a pic http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2623/untitledta2.png

I dont get why people nock on its performance in AA. They are designed to be streamed through the processors. Plus i dont even use AA when playing because i play at a high enough resolution to were you cant see jaggies anyways. Im not saying GTX sucks. I just say give the 2900 series a chance. The drivers have been getting from what i have heard. And once games start using AA through stream processors. Its over for the GTX. But until then.Killfox

Yeah its true that you don't need AA at high reses, but not everyone is gaming at a res of 1920 by 1200, so AA is a must for some people. And yes its over for the GTX if games do AA through stream processors, but thats not any time soon since that would mean only people with 2900 cards would be able to run AA with good FPS. And that would mean the game devs would decrease the amount of people being able to play the game therefore not many people would buy such a game if they do not have a 2900. Only an insane developer would make a game for one family of graphic cards.

Thanks for replying.

Now those ATI fan boys should shut up

you know there's something wrong when the dell clocked lower then northwest beats it.

Theses benchmark make no sense at all, people with single GTX can do almost 12000 when oveclocked.

Bebi_vegeta

Agreed, what is wrong with that website that shows 12k benchies of a 8800gtx in SLI? If a single one can do the same.

Hmm...good thing I'm not a fanboy because if ATI keeps this up I'll be replacing my GTS with one of theirs.PS2_ROCKS

That would make no sens, since your card max everything now... i would wait for next generation.

[QUOTE="LahiruD"]

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

domke13

Here you got link of some guy whit GTX SLi and qaud clocked at 3.6: more than 17k points.

followed the link...is that even real or legitimate? it says he has 1024mb video ram?

[QUOTE="domke13"][QUOTE="LahiruD"]

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

gtarmanrob

Here you got link of some guy whit GTX SLi and qaud clocked at 3.6: more than 17k points.

followed the link...is that even real or legitimate? it says he has 1024mb video ram?

I'm using 8800GTS 640MB. When I go to DXDIAG it showing I have 859MB of memory

:lol:. Nvidia drivers for Vista dont support SLI. These results from GTX SLI are compareable to 1 GTX. Hell in Company of heroes even i get more frames whit rig in sig, than GTX SLI and quad core. Probably cause i use XP.

They actaully benched only single GTX. Whit quad core clocked at those speeds whit GTX you get same score.

Two GTXs with good drivers should get around 18,000 and 20,000 and totally kick radeon asses. You can call me fanboy but thats how it is.

Hopefully nvidia drivers will support SLI in Vista whit next release. By than its useless to compare 1 GTX againts Dual 2900XT in CF.

Thats not the true power of 2 GTXs but its the true power of one as we all know.

domke13

:|

The tests were done under 3 boutique systems; one supporting 1GB 2900 XT CrossFire and the other with GTX SLi.

NVIDIA Vista drivers suck and they easily explain this result.

This should be a real slap in the face to all the other sites who DIDN'T perform CrossFire benchmarks under Vista and who called the 2900 XT low performing. It turns out that 2900 XTs are the highest you can go for DX10 gaming. :lol:

[QUOTE="domke13"][QUOTE="LahiruD"]

@ Alpha Omega69

If you got over 16000 in 3D Mark, why don't you show us a picture(Screen Shot) ? :)

BTW There is a problem with benchmarks

gtarmanrob

Here you got link of some guy whit GTX SLi and qaud clocked at 3.6: more than 17k points.

followed the link...is that even real or legitimate? it says he has 1024mb video ram?

It says that i have 1GB of ram on my 8800GTX. 3D mark doesnt read ram corectly so it just say the closest one it can read.

It is legitimate. ITs the true power of 8800GTX SLI and you can see that it beats 2900XT 1GB CF for around 1k points.

GTX is still better.

[QUOTE="domke13"]

:lol:. Nvidia drivers for Vista dont support SLI. These results from GTX SLI are compareable to 1 GTX. Hell in Company of heroes even i get more frames whit rig in sig, than GTX SLI and quad core. Probably cause i use XP.

They actaully benched only single GTX. Whit quad core clocked at those speeds whit GTX you get same score.

Two GTXs with good drivers should get around 18,000 and 20,000 and totally kick radeon asses. You can call me fanboy but thats how it is.

Hopefully nvidia drivers will support SLI in Vista whit next release. By than its useless to compare 1 GTX againts Dual 2900XT in CF.

Thats not the true power of 2 GTXs but its the true power of one as we all know.

Wesker776

:|

The tests were done under 3 boutique systems; one supporting 1GB 2900 XT CrossFire and the other with GTX SLi.

NVIDIA Vista drivers suck and they easily explain this result.

This should be a real slap in the face to all the other sites who DIDN'T perform CrossFire benchmarks under Vista and who called the 2900 XT low performing. It turns out that 2900 XTs are the highest you can go for DX10 gaming. :lol:

If nividia wont release good drivers for SLI support under Vista,yeah 2900XTs will be the highest you can get for gaming.

But i am sure that nvidia will make their drivers so GTX SLI will beat 2900XT CF. I want to see some single card benchmarks from 2900XT 1GB. Anyone has link???