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#1 greggr107
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Hi, I've been a console gamer all my life, and after 41 years... well it's time to see what I've been missing! I am placing an order for my first custom gaming rig, and cannot wait to build it. Please excuse my ignorance, I am not up to speed with all the PC lingo and terminology, I have just been lurking for awhile. Anyway, my goal is to order a system that can run most any game right now at high settings.. and will be solid for the next couple years in the upgrade department. I would like your input on anything you might change, compatibility issues, etc... Of course i would like to spend a minimal amount, but am prepared for spending about $1700-$2000. If I have missed anything, please let me know, or if you have any other recommendations. Thanks to Staryoshi for getting me started with all this..

Case: Antec 900 Black Steel ATX MidTower $119

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX $119

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit $99.99

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $69.99

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2X2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit $39.99

Drive: LG Black 22X $24.99

PSU: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V $99.99

Graphics Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX285 $354.99

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 $280.00

Keyboard: Saitek PZ30AU Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard $34.99

Mouse: Logitech G5 2-Tone 7 buttons 1xWheel USB Laser 2000 dpi Mouse $49.99

Monitor: Samsung 2433BW Glossy Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD 20000:1 (1000:1) $299.99

This is what I am looking at, falls somewhere around $1700... any other recommendations? How is this looking? What other supplies will I need to do this build, it is my first (cables, etc..) and it's my first order off newegg.com. I am trying to avoid numerous trips to my local PC shop. Also, could anybody recommend a solid speaker system... it will be in a smallish room, don't need anything overly powerful, but would like a good sub and speakers because I want to "feel" these games. Thanks for the help

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I would suggest getting a razer lachesis or deathadder. At buy.com they are 50 and 60$ respectively. And they are definently worth it. Maybe switch to a razer keyboard. A headset would be good and get some of the logitech speakers they got good ones on newegg :D And one last thing antec 900 is 85$ at microcenter.com which is alot cheaper. Hope i helped :)
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Everything looks good. If, your not planning on overclocking...your set.
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For a newbie that is exceptionally good, you picked great parts, even a corsair PSU. One thing is you might want to get an xigmatek HDT-S1283 cooler, for overclocking the processor.
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I would suggest getting a razer lachesis or deathadder. At buy.com they are 50 and 60$ respectively. And they are definently worth it. Maybe switch to a razer keyboard. A headset would be good and get some of the logitech speakers they got good ones on newegg :D And one last thing antec 900 is 85$ at microcenter.com which is alot cheaper. Hope i helped :)RedxSniper
For a newbie that is exceptionally good, you picked great parts, even a corsair PSU. One thing is you might want to get an xigmatek HDT-S1283 cooler, for overclocking the processor.ferret-gamer
Haha, I can't take all the credit.. I thank Staryoshi87 from this forum for helping me out and getting me set up, I mean he just took the time to PM me when I randomly contacted him about what I wanted to do. The forum was getting a little confusing sometimes, he linked me up with a bunch of stuff that I then researched. As far as the mouse goes... I checked out Razer and Deathadder, both look good, just not sure which one to go with between the different models. And a keyboard? Moderately priced quality headset? Any specific help there would be appreciated too. I'm not planning on overclocking.. maybe another time, this is my first build and I kinda want to cut my teeth on doing the basics. You guys rock, thanks for the quick responses and helpful insight.. I'm going to order it tonight as soon as I decide on a mouse, keyboard and headset
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I would suggest getting a razer lachesis or deathadder. At buy.com they are 50 and 60$ respectively. And they are definently worth it. Maybe switch to a razer keyboard. A headset would be good and get some of the logitech speakers they got good ones on newegg :D And one last thing antec 900 is 85$ at microcenter.com which is alot cheaper. Hope i helped :)RedxSniper
What are you sponsored by Razer or something? :P The G5 and G7 (if you prefer wireless) are the best gaming mice on the market right now.
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[QUOTE="RedxSniper"]I would suggest getting a razer lachesis or deathadder. At buy.com they are 50 and 60$ respectively. And they are definently worth it. Maybe switch to a razer keyboard. A headset would be good and get some of the logitech speakers they got good ones on newegg :D And one last thing antec 900 is 85$ at microcenter.com which is alot cheaper. Hope i helped :)DGFreak
What are you sponsored by Razer or something? :P The G5 and G7 (if you prefer wireless) are the best gaming mice on the market right now.

I think I'm gonna go with G5 and that Saitek, since they've got solid reviews and I'm a PC gaming n00b

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Random Thought: Why not try the OCZ NIA
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The Antec Nine Hundred case is not a great case - your GTX 285 is going to be cramped, and you'll have to constantly clean it out due to dust accumulation. Especially if you're not overclocking (and therefore not as concerned with temperatures), it's a downright poor investment. I also have trouble seeing a 41-year-old man with a case like that, it'd be like a 41-year-old man driving a lowered Eclipse with ground effects and a large spoiler. I'd recommend something a little classier and less flashy. For a first-time builder, the Antec P182 would be great, as would the Lian-Li PC-7B Plus II. The P182 is a bit pricier than the Nine Hundred, but it's and excellent all-around case. The PC-7B Plus II is also great, and a bit cheaper, but the aluminum construction is hard to really appreciate if it's your first case (although it is very light which is nice if you'll be moving it around). Motherboard is perfect. OS is perfect. Hard drive is great, but I might consider getting two of them - while I'm not nearly as old as you, I've found that I'm storing more and more important things on my computer like tax returns, legal documents, etc. and a hard drive failure would be a hell of a lot more catastrophic than just losing a few game saves and a porn collection. A second physical drive offers incredible peace-of-mind for a very low price. You could consider an external drive if you wish as well. RAM is fine. Optical drive is fine. Power supply is great. Graphics card is a bit touchy - I know you want to go future-proof, but spending that much on a GPU never works out like you want it to. I'll give you an example from a little over two years ago that happened to me - ATI was still leading benchmarks with its X1900 series, and the two cards I was considering the most were the X1900XT and the X1950Pro. The X1900XT was just over $300 at the time, while the X1950Pro was about $200. The X1900XT was a fair bit more powerful than the X1950 Pro and I thought the extra cash spent would be a good investment for the future. I opted for the more expensive card, only to find that it was outdated exactly the same time the X1950 Pro was. This has happened time and time again, and this graphics generation is going to be no different. You're much better served spending about half what you're planning on a graphics card now and just accepting that you'll want to spend the other half in about a year-and-a-half/two-years. I'd be looking at the Radeon HD4870 1GB or GTX 260 Core 216 primarily, and even considering the HD4850 512MB. The CPU is a good choice, we're seeing multi-threading support in some games, and by the time you replace this machine I have no doubt that the Q9550 will be a better investment than say, the E8400. Keyboard is not bad. Mouse is good, but I'd make sure you find it comfortable. I didn't particularly care for the G5 due to its size and opted for the G9, but everyone is different. I'd check out the local Best Buy and mess around with their mice to find something that fits your hand well. Monitor is also good, just make sure you're not getting the glossy version (unless you're going to have 100% control of the lighting in the room and plan on keeping it dark). For the speakers (assuming you're not going to get a headset), the Logitech Z-2300 is a decent 2.1 setup. I might also recommend a sound card given your budget - it would be nice to get off that mediocre onboard audio, especially on a solid speaker system where it becomes more noticeable. The ASUS Xonar DX and Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer would be my choices for you here, with the nod going to the Xonar for audio quality and to the XtremeGamer for games. Another good thing to pick up might be a card reader, in case you want to upload photos or anything like that real quick. An aftermarket CPU cooler really would be nice, not necessarily for overclocking, but for noise reasons. The previously mentioned Xigmatek S1283 is a popular (and decent) choice, and for a first-time builder, I say stick with it. Cables you should be just fine, since the board comes with four SATA cables, and that's pretty much all you need. As for other things like tools I'd have a standard and Philips-head screwdriver handy, as well as a crescent wrench for tightening motherboard standoff brackets. Some zip-ties (and wire cutters to clean them up) would also be nice to have if you're intent on cleaning up the cabling in your machine.
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[QUOTE="RedxSniper"]I would suggest getting a razer lachesis or deathadder. At buy.com they are 50 and 60$ respectively. And they are definently worth it. Maybe switch to a razer keyboard. A headset would be good and get some of the logitech speakers they got good ones on newegg :D And one last thing antec 900 is 85$ at microcenter.com which is alot cheaper. Hope i helped :)DGFreak
What are you sponsored by Razer or something? :P The G5 and G7 (if you prefer wireless) are the best gaming mice on the market right now.

Err.. you know that is bias right? And you are wrong.
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#11 greggr107
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Rayvin, a 41 year old man driving a lowered Eclipse lol.. Problem is I still feel like I'm 25! No seriously, just because I'm 41 doesn't mean that I need a very subtle and conservative case. I have two young teens that are console gamers, and I'm thinking of them as well, plus I kinda like the flashy look. Thanks for taking the time to respond with that very detailed post, I really appreciate it. I haven't placed the order yet, and you bring up some good points. I will investigate cases a little further and make my choice. As far as another hard drive, I don't really think I'll need it.. I have several other computers in the house, and this is a strict gaming rig.. only game saves on it, and probably my kids porn collection lol, nothin catastrophic.

Graphics card- I will look into that also.. I see the point you make from an investment standpoint, taking into account what I might need to do in a couple years. I was also looking at those exact speakers you mentioned- Although was also considering I think its the Z4, a step down.. the room is extremely small, like a converted laundry room dedicated to gaming, I'm thinking the Z2300 might be overkill. That being the case, I haven't been actively looking for a sound card, I was going to give the standard a shot first. Like I said, I'm new to PC gaming, its a small room, and it might be ok. Card reader, don't need it, have them in my photo printers and other machines CPU cooler, wasn't planning on it.. would that be strictly for noise control? And tools, zipties, etc, got 'em.. you know, in 41 years, you acquire alot of stuff, since I'm so ancient Rayvin! I'm sure I was playing Intellivision when you were in your dipeys lol. One more thing, a good quality mid priced headest? Hey thanks for all the help ;)

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Hi, I've been a console gamer all my life, and after 41 years... well it's time to see what I've been missing! I am placing an order for my first custom gaming rig, and cannot wait to build it. Please excuse my ignorance, I am not up to speed with all the PC lingo and terminology, I have just been lurking for awhile. Anyway, my goal is to order a system that can run most any game right now at high settings.. and will be solid for the next couple years in the upgrade department. I would like your input on anything you might change, compatibility issues, etc... Of course i would like to spend a minimal amount, but am prepared for spending about $1700-$2000. If I have missed anything, please let me know, or if you have any other recommendations. Thanks to Staryoshi for getting me started with all this..

Case: Antec 900 Black Steel ATX MidTower $119

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX $119

OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit $99.99

HD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s HD $69.99

Memory: G.SKILL 4GB (2X2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit $39.99

Drive: LG Black 22X $24.99

PSU: Corsair CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V/EPS12V $99.99

Graphics Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1281-AR GeForce GTX285 $354.99

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 $280.00

Keyboard: Saitek PZ30AU Wired Standard Eclipse Keyboard $34.99

Mouse: Logitech G5 2-Tone 7 buttons 1xWheel USB Laser 2000 dpi Mouse $49.99

Monitor: Samsung 2433BW Glossy Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LCD 20000:1 (1000:1) $299.99

This is what I am looking at, falls somewhere around $1700... any other recommendations? How is this looking? What other supplies will I need to do this build, it is my first (cables, etc..) and it's my first order off newegg.com. I am trying to avoid numerous trips to my local PC shop. Also, could anybody recommend a solid speaker system... it will be in a smallish room, don't need anything overly powerful, but would like a good sub and speakers because I want to "feel" these games. Thanks for the help

greggr107
You're a rich son of a rich man. I wish I had that money. I configured a 625$ rig on newegg and yet for some reason, I'm actually not jealous of your rig
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Didn't mean to make you feel ancient or anything (I'm 25 myself, but it's more about the mileage than the years). If you really like the styling of the Nine Hundred, I'd get the Nine Hundred II instead. It has at least solved the cable routing issues that plagued the original Nine Hundred. The NZXT Tempest is another reasonable alternative, and the Thermaltake V9 might also be worth considering. The Z2300 isn't all that big (well, the sub is, and if that's the area you need space, then you might do well to consider the Z4), it shouldn't pose too much of a problem. Well, an aftermarket CPU is mainly used for lowering CPU temperatures, but the noise benefits are definitely a nice aside. I'd say it's up to you, if you think you can live with some slight fan humming you'll be fine (it's not horribly loud just idling, and while you're gaming you shouldn't need to worry about noise much). As for the headset, I'm using the Plantronics GameCom 367, which is a very good set for the $40 price tag if you ask me. There are certainly better headphones out there (and as a DJ I own a few, but they all use 6.3mm jacks), but for the price, I'm very happy with the Plantronics set. And yes, Intellivision was definitely before my time. But at least I remember greyscale gaming on the family Macintosh 512K (or maybe 512Ke, I was pretty young and don't remember much of it) - nothing like trying to play After Dark games where you had to avoid touching the mouse for fear of turning off the screensaver that the games were running in.
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I'd get faster RAM... everything else looks pretty good. PS. I want that GPU!! I'm getting one when my 9800gtx+ isn't enough anymore :P And the price drops of course
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Didn't mean to make you feel ancient or anything (I'm 25 myself, but it's more about the mileage than the years). If you really like the styling of the Nine Hundred, I'd get the Nine Hundred II instead. It has at least solved the cable routing issues that plagued the original Nine Hundred. The NZXT Tempest is another reasonable alternative, and the Thermaltake V9 might also be worth considering. The Z2300 isn't all that big (well, the sub is, and if that's the area you need space, then you might do well to consider the Z4), it shouldn't pose too much of a problem. Well, an aftermarket CPU is mainly used for lowering CPU temperatures, but the noise benefits are definitely a nice aside. I'd say it's up to you, if you think you can live with some slight fan humming you'll be fine (it's not horribly loud just idling, and while you're gaming you shouldn't need to worry about noise much). As for the headset, I'm using the Plantronics GameCom 367, which is a very good set for the $40 price tag if you ask me. There are certainly better headphones out there (and as a DJ I own a few, but they all use 6.3mm jacks), but for the price, I'm very happy with the Plantronics set. And yes, Intellivision was definitely before my time. But at least I remember greyscale gaming on the family Macintosh 512K (or maybe 512Ke, I was pretty young and don't remember much of it) - nothing like trying to play After Dark games where you had to avoid touching the mouse for fear of turning off the screensaver that the games were running in.RayvinAzn
Funny, I saw the 900-2 today, and already switched it out in my shopping cart. I know there are good cases for much less but call me vain. I like the way it looks, plus the dust filters and the improved cable plumbing. And greyscale on the Macintosh lol... I got an Apple II + in 7th grade.. I still remember the games for that computer, I never thought it could get any better, buying those 51/4" floppys. I was in heaven. So I'm gonna order tonight, I could always get a CPU fan later if I feel the need
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#16 RayvinAzn
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If you deign to change your CPU cooler later, make sure you have some 90%+ proof Isopropyl alcohol on hand to clean off the old thermal compound on your processor. Lint-free rags would be preferable as well, but Q-tips can also work.
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#17 greggr107
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Awesome dude, you've been a big help thanks