PC Sales figures

the problem is that pc gamers are just not dedicated to the pc. Just look at the debate on DRM going on.People are boycotting games because it has a DRM on it.Basically they are complaining now and when they won;t get the many great games as they are getting now theyll complain again saying this or that company doesn't care about the PC as a platform.so if you want to blame someone for low pc game sales blame pc gamers first and foremost. Then you can blame the pirates who are a disease and should be eliminated.

is that counting all the digital sales also (such as steam?)Spunky1119

I would say no. He's probably looking at useless NPD figures.

The Gamer's Bill of Rights:

1. Gamers shall have the right to return games that don't work with their computers for a full refund.
2. Gamers shall have the right to demand that games be released in a finished state.
3. Gamers shall have the right to expect meaningful updates after a game's release.
4. Gamers shall have the right to demand that download managers and updaters not force themselves to run or be forced to load in order to play a game.
5. Gamers shall have the right to expect that the minimum requirements for a game will mean that the game will play adequately on that computer.
6. Gamers shall have the right to expect that games won't install hidden drivers or other potentially harmful software without their consent.
7. Gamers shall have the right to re-download the latest versions of the games they own at any time.
8. Gamers shall have the right to not be treated as potential criminals by developers or publishers.
9. Gamers shall have the right to demand that a single-player game not force them to be connected to the Internet every time they wish to play.
10. Gamers shall have the right that games which are installed to the hard drive shall not require a CD/DVD to remain in the drive to play.

Stardock Corporation

Someone could argue about point 3 (I won't) but in my opinion, those 10 should be mandatory. As of today, almost no game follows this. PC users have absolutely NO confidence that the game they have just bought will even run. You know, if their offer just stinks, they HAVE to expect low sales. Why am I forced to have an internet connection just to play a single player game? (Mass Effect for example)

I'll just link to Penny Arcade in this strip

Piracy is just a scapegoat. I can buy a game in a platform that won't treat me like a criminal with abusive measures, or I can be a masochist and get flayed. I don't know about you, but my choice is crystal clear.

Yes i agree with you just in the piracy thing it's a vuris must becleaned by The company maybe the Blu-ray is the answerDark_prince123

Im confused. How could Blu Ray be the answer when it has already been pirated? :S

No..Assassins Crud does really blow chunks...one of the lamest games ever( pretty but lame )

I really doubt any report does cover D/L sales...

I buy 20+ games a year and half of those were D/Ls

Oh my god Is it truth about the blu-ray is it pirated last month i saw Sony confornce on tv Prouding about Their Great And Protected Blu-ray So i want link to prove that blu-ray is piratedDark_prince123

Everything is pirated. There's no such thing as full-proof protection.

[QUOTE="Spunky1119"]is that counting all the digital sales also (such as steam?)JP_Russell

I would say no. He's probably looking at useless NPD figures.

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[QUOTE="Spunky1119"]is that counting all the digital sales also (such as steam?)Makari

I would say no. He's probably looking at useless NPD figures.

All the NPD is good for is seeing how largely PC games are selling from retail outlets in North America. As far as figuring out how well a given game is selling through all means worldwide, it gives a rough, very uncertain estimate at best.

On Sins, yeah, but according to the PC gaming alliance, digital distribution accounts for not much fewer sales than retail. For their report last year, $4.8 billion came from online payments (which I assume refers to MMO monthly fees, server fees for games like Battlefield, etc.), $800 million from in-game ads, and $2 billion from digital distribution. The total revenue was $10.7 billion, so subtract all the other figures from it and you get the leftover $3.1 billion that retail accounts for.

So in other words, Sins is actually an exception to the rule, as retail is on average only 155% (1.5x) the revenue of DD. And that was last year. Logically, the ratio will continue to tip in the other direction as time goes on. Anyway, that is surprising that it sold that much more through retail, as it only had a NA distributor. Kind of a shame knowing it could have sold even more than the 500,000+ it has so far if they'd had retail distributors for other regions. People always say the amount that Stardock's games bring in wouldn't be enough for a big budget company, but they also forget that Stardock's games are less advertised (because of their lower budget), from genres of generally lower popularity than most, and - most importantly - don't have retail distributors worldwide.

Cod4 for PC did reach over 1 million.

thats not counting DD either.

On Sins, yeah, but according to the PC gaming alliance, digital distribution accounts for not much fewer sales than retail. For their report last year, $4.8 billion came from online payments (which I assume refers to MMO monthly fees, server fees for games like Battlefield, etc.), $800 million from in-game ads, and $2 billion from digital distribution. The total revenue was $10.7 billion, so subtract all the other figures from it and you get the leftover $3.1 billion that retail accounts for.JP_Russell

Oh my god Is it truth about the blu-ray is it pirated last month i saw Sony confornce on tv Prouding about Their Great And Protected Blu-ray So i want link to prove that blu-ray is piratedDark_prince123

You are telling me that Blu-Ray, which is a form of media that holds DATA cannot be pirated? Why is that? Due to the high capacity of the disk, making it harder to download quickly? Or is there some magical protection that hackers are oblivious to and will never crack?

Also, Blu-Ray has barely made a dent in the PC market and won't for some time. So that right then and there either means that developers will have to continue to support of DVD for years to come or take a heavy financial loss by only supporting Blu-Ray.

Either way, it isn't the solution to piracy as piracy will always exist....unless we can get the game companies to hire ninjas. Everyone knows Ninjas are better then pirates.

Orange Box outsold both PS3 and 360 sales put together. NPD doesn't include digital distribution, MMOs suck money from game retail sales. PC is a big industry.nutcrackr