PC shuts off in the middle of some games!

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#1 onch
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I Just upgraded my processor from a P4 2.66Ghz to a Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53Ghz. I had to buy a new power supply too because the first one would make loud noises whenever 3D games were running. The PC works fine now most of the time, except that on certain games, and in 3Dmark2003 (at a certain part of the Nature Test), the PC just shuts off! As if someone pulled the plug!


Can anyone help me narrow down the cause of this? the only thing i changed was the processor, and the power supply. I don't know what problem causes this kind of behavior. The games that cause the PC to shut off by itself are Mass Effect, Oblivion, and World In Conflict. But i can play Gears of War, and Command and Conquer 3, and Race Driver Grid for hours without the PC shutting off.

BTW, in Mass Effect and Oblivion, i can usually tell when it's about to shut off, because i start to hear a faint stuttering sound coming out of the speakers. Kind of like static but it's stuttering.


My specs:
Core 2 Duo E7200 2.53Ghz
Geforce 8600GT 512mb DDR2
ECS 945GCT-M2 / 1333
1GB DDR2 ram at 667MHz (i think it's 667)
500W Power supply
1 DVD-Rom drive, 1 CD-Drive, one Hard disk. That's it.

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#2 manikrrish
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RAM may be a problem..also whats your OS??

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#3 BLKR4330
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Most probable cause would be your cpu is overheating. Check the temperatures and make sure you correctly mounted the heatsink (did you use your old heatsink?), plugged in fan, have fan blowing in the right direction, etc.
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#4 manikrrish
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ya right..thats one reason too..the only doubt is if you can run other games then fan or heat sink should not be problem..
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#5 simardbrad
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Sounds like the more graphic intensive games are causing it to shut off... which means as others said, overheating. Download speedfan or coretemp and see how hot those cores are running.
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#6 Aldouz
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I think its Mobo... 945GC chipset didn't stable enough to handle e7200... If you want stable try P31, P35 or P45 instead...
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#7 onch
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I have SpeedFan, the CPU and both cores barely go above 55deg even during games. The 8600GT has a ceiling of about 70deg on some occassions but it's rarely gone higher than that. And the games crash within 15 minutes of playing, whereas Race Driver Grid and Gears of War can be running for hours with no problems. I'm really curious about the stuttering sound coming from the speakers. In Oblivion for instance, the stuttering gets louder when i'm facing a lot of trees or buildings, and lessens when i'm facing straight down at my feet where there's less geometry.

I don't know if this info helps, but i discovered that if i run 3Dmark2003 Nature Test at 640x480 or 800x600, the pc doesn't shut off. Once i bring it up to 1024x768, it's a 99% chance it will shut off at the exact same point. Does this narrow down the cause in any way? From what i understand, the stress on the CPU doesn't change if you switch resolutions, only the video card gets stressed, is that true?

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#8 BLKR4330
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Since the only other thing you changed is your psu, that just might have something to do with it. Seems unlikely though since some games apparently give no problems at all and I would expect you to have other problems to go along with shutting off. Still, is it a reputable brand? Do you still have your old psu to see if the problem stays the same while using that?

But first I would look into what Aldouz said about possible compatibility problems. It is an older chipset afterall and it doesn't seem unlikely that that could have some influence on your on-board sound (which I assume you are using). Did you update to the latest bios version?

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#9 asad_azam
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Looks like tour CPu is overheating under the load.Try CPU-Z and see how much the temp is.

Make sure that the fan in working properly.Try to increase its speed and then see.

Try a thermal paste like artic silver for the CPU.

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#10 onch
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thanks. I use speedfan to check the temps. They don't overheat. I also updated the bios, first thing i did, before i even noticed any problems. THe PSU is an unknown brand, could be Asian.
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#11 Captain__Tripps
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Coud very well be PSU... Random reboots/shutdowns is what will happen with a bad or underpowered PSU. Maybe some games stress it in different ways that causes it to fail... What are specs of the PSU?
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#12 gamerloks
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try overclocking CPU and graphics card and you will see a difference probably the clocks in your GPU cause it to shut off under the stress the games are putting into it I say this because for 6months i was gaming on a P4@3.00 Ghz and a 6200@400/300 and as soon as i overclocked the CPU to 3.6Ghz and the GPU to 432 MEM and 360 SHADE the same problem you have stop just give it a try
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#13 X360PS3AMD05
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Is everything plugged in correctly? I hope it's not that ECS mobo :?.....................
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#14 onch
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This is all the info printed around the box of my PSU:

iMaster Pro 5000

100V-260V selectable input voltage

120mm Cooling Fan

8cm Exhaust Fan

4 x Sata

20+4 pin DC connector

3 Big + 1 Small

Cord Shield

Electroplated

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#15 jimmyjammer69
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The 8600gt requires 22 amps on the +12v rail (I think). If you've bought a shoddy PSU which doesn't supply this, you'll likely see degraded performance and shutdowns. Can you find the voltages for your PSU?
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#16 xXDrPainXx
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Miost definatley the PSU, especially with that popping noise you are getting in Oblivion sounds like it is bad, had a similar issue on same 945 chipset with a P4 and a PSU and it was totally unstalble to the point it blew the CPU and the board, would look into trying a better PSU
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#17 onch
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According to Speedfan, here's all my voltage stuff (sorry i'm not really a techie overclocker person, i'll just type what i see):

Vcore1: 1.04V
Vcore2: 1.82V
+3.3V: 2.03V
+5V: 5.08V
+12V: 8.13V
-12V: -12.61V
-5V: -5.31V
+5V: 4.97V
Vbat: 3.38V

I have no idea what those are but i sure hope they're bad numbers (coz i wouldn't want anything else to be broken but the PSU).
By the way, do those numbers change when gaming? because i got those numbers when the system was idle.

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#18 quietguy
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Switch out your PSU: you may have to issue a RMA. I am not familiar with the iMaster Pro series; Google doesn't even list it directly. And no the chipset has nothing to do with the CPU until one decides to OC it.
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#19 jimmyjammer69
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i can't find any info on your psu. What you'll have to do is have a look at what's printed on the psu (you might have to open up the case again to find this). If the +12v rail is rated at less than 18a, you'll need to replace the psu. Still, if it's a dodgy company, you may need to replace the psu regardless. Hope this helps.
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#20 Aldouz
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According to Speedfan, here's all my voltage stuff (sorry i'm not really a techie overclocker person, i'll just type what i see):

Vcore1: 1.04V
Vcore2: 1.82V
+3.3V: 2.03V
+5V: 5.08V
+12V: 8.13V
-12V: -12.61V
-5V: -5.31V
+5V: 4.97V
Vbat: 3.38V

I have no idea what those are but i sure hope they're bad numbers (coz i wouldn't want anything else to be broken but the PSU).
By the way, do those numbers change when gaming? because i got those numbers when the system was idle.

onch

The difference should not far... well I'm not expert with PSU..

maybe you can as RayvinAzn, he know much about this...


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#21 onch
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I would like to thank everyone of you for your valuable input. I'd also like to say that the problem was resolved. It was a faulty video card. Everything's working fine now with the new card.

I'll definitely look into a better power supply though. I'm still taking all your advice seriously. In the near future i plan to upgrade to a heavier duty power supply. Gotta protect my investment!

Thanks again. Case closed!