Playing cell factor without phyx card!

Ok the demo is finaly here!

Here are some instructions on how to play the game even if you do not have a physx card.

If you dont have the game then you can download it here.

http://hdvg.net/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_details&gid=129&Itemid=26

http://www.fileplanet.com/176835/170000/fileinfo/CellFactor:-Revolution-Client-%5BFree-Game%5D

http://uk.gamespot.com/pc/action/cellfactor/download.html?sid=6170252&tag=topslot;title;5&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot 

Credits to Iced_Eagle from hl2world forum for a work around.
http://ageia.com/physx_in_action/cellfactor.html

PPU is required to really play the game, but I found a workaround...

Here's the workaround that I posted about in HL2.net... Enjoy!

I can't really find a way to disable the debugging stuff, but o well, at least you get to play around with the physics...

Basically all you do is load up Reality Builder, and launch the game from there...

Now you can do what I did which was go through and on each visible entitiy change the IsHidden bool variable in the "Visibility" category to false... The one thing I can't figure out is the AI Path node and how to hide that.

Also, since it isn't really running a "game", the flag, and vehicles won't work... Cloth also doesn't appear (most likely because you truly need the PPU for that)

So to do this just go Start -> All Programs -> Artificial Studios -> CellFactor -> CellFactor Editor

From there go File -> LIMBO_FuelingStation

Give it a min or two to load, then once the level has finished loading you need to position yourself over an area of land... Hold Right-Click and move yourself (using WASD) over a nice area where you want to spawn in... Hit F5 and give it about 2 minutes or so (it should appear like nothing is happening... Just give it time!)

Once you are in, you should get a warning about a Cloth Script, just hit OK.

Woot woot, now you are in-game!!! Run around shoot stuff, and play with those physics!

I have no idea what the fook I'm doing in Reality Builder. This takes too much effort. I'm just gonna go buy a card.hacknslash12

Yes, that's what I did. The card is actually not that expensive, plus I am all set for Unreal Tournament 3. And I am a huge GRAW fan so this card pays for itself in awesomeness.

cell factor controls are insanely complex, like madness, to many keys to bind and remember, i aint even gonna botherArch_Demonz

meh, just have to know your class.  I have been playing the game for a year now, so Im quite intune with them.  But like all games, takes a bit to get to know. 

Crytek said the cards a bunch of crap and they wont be suppoting it for Crysis. Cell factor doesn't even need it apart from the fact it isn't optimized for use without itTerrorantula

 I bet you they pupposely didn't optmize it and probably didn't put in any support for multithreading so that everyone who doesn't have the card will think if they get a PPU their framrates will increase drastically. FUnny thing is there will barely be any difference.(Well at least for the non-physx required levels)  

physx has some big probs. actually slows down your PC if you have a fast PC. Not to mention there are only about 4 PC games that use it. What is the point of what is essentially a math co-processor with mutli core chips and fast GPU's. They obviously can't keep up with AMD/AMD/INTEL and NVIDIA, should get out of the game.
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youre reading old info.  PhsyX does not slow your PC down

that was only when GRAW first came out and it was fixed.  The purpose of a PPU is to give more physics to the game and letting the CPU be used to its fullest.  They haev nothing to do with ATI, nvdia, Intel or AMD. 

Personally heres what I'd like AGEIA to end up doign with thier PhysiX processor and future games:

I'd like the whole push for "PhysiX on multicore and GPU's" to happen, and have Ageia develop thier PhysiX technology for that.  This theoretically should be good for everyone, as it will allow everyone to play those coveted "PhysiX" games.

However, for those of use who are still on single cores or cant afford a really expensive GPU with "PhysiX" on it, have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so).  This way, the push to Multi-core and better GPU's are there, but we can still purchase easy-to-instal "piggy-back" CPU's (aka the PhysiX card) that could do the PhysiX (mabey even act as a kind of CPU core in itself!)

Wouldnt that be grand?  That way everyone wins, including me (so I dont have to buy a Dual Core in order to experience the best out of physics in games in the future).

Personally heres what I'd like AGEIA to end up doign with thier PhysiX processor and future games:

I'd like the whole push for "PhysiX on multicore and GPU's" to happen, and have Ageia develop thier PhysiX technology for that. This theoretically should be good for everyone, as it will allow everyone to play those coveted "PhysiX" games.

However, for those of use who are still on single cores or cant afford a really expensive GPU with "PhysiX" on it, have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). This way, the push to Multi-core and better GPU's are there, but we can still purchase easy-to-instal "piggy-back" CPU's (aka the PhysiX card) that could do the PhysiX (mabey even act as a kind of CPU core in itself!)

Wouldnt that be grand? That way everyone wins, including me (so I dont have to buy a Dual Core in order to experience the best out of physics in games in the future).

KorJax

There's no reason for Intel or AMD to share profits with Physix or whatever.. PhysiX will only be profitable if they start making their own CPUs or do something interesting.. The way it stands, Intel could simply add another core, or keep the two cores already had- they basically do exactly the same thing the physix cards do.. The only difference is that the game is made in such a way to optimize something other than the CPU to handle physics calculations.. The way it is now, you could make a game optimized in such a way that it used one core for normal CPU stuff, and the other for physics, if you really wanted to, but it doesn't work as well. Basically, PhysiX, the way it stands right now, is just basically adding another middle-man in the processer game for no reason, and you, and we, get to pay for basically the name, when AMD or Intel can make their own stuff better for cheaper. The game is what determines what it uses which processor core or PhysiX card for what.. It's just a gimmick, now..  

... have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). KorJax

The PhysX cards (not PhysiX) are already priced below $150, so go get one already :)

[QUOTE="KorJax"]

... have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). t0adphr0g

The PhysX cards (not PhysiX) are already priced below $150, so go get one already :)

Or you could just get another GPU(I think it's only available to the geforce 8 series) and put it in SLI mode, so that the second GPU focuses on the physics.

[QUOTE="KorJax"]

Personally heres what I'd like AGEIA to end up doign with thier PhysiX processor and future games:

I'd like the whole push for "PhysiX on multicore and GPU's" to happen, and have Ageia develop thier PhysiX technology for that. This theoretically should be good for everyone, as it will allow everyone to play those coveted "PhysiX" games.

However, for those of use who are still on single cores or cant afford a really expensive GPU with "PhysiX" on it, have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). This way, the push to Multi-core and better GPU's are there, but we can still purchase easy-to-instal "piggy-back" CPU's (aka the PhysiX card) that could do the PhysiX (mabey even act as a kind of CPU core in itself!)

Wouldnt that be grand? That way everyone wins, including me (so I dont have to buy a Dual Core in order to experience the best out of physics in games in the future).

Dracunos

There's no reason for Intel or AMD to share profits with Physix or whatever.. PhysiX will only be profitable if they start making their own CPUs or do something interesting.. The way it stands, Intel could simply add another core, or keep the two cores already had- they basically do exactly the same thing the physix cards do.. The only difference is that the game is made in such a way to optimize something other than the CPU to handle physics calculations.. The way it is now, you could make a game optimized in such a way that it used one core for normal CPU stuff, and the other for physics, if you really wanted to, but it doesn't work as well. Basically, PhysiX, the way it stands right now, is just basically adding another middle-man in the processer game for no reason, and you, and we, get to pay for basically the name, when AMD or Intel can make their own stuff better for cheaper. The game is what determines what it uses which processor core or PhysiX card for what.. It's just a gimmick, now..

By the way, I lied and was trying to sound smart.. But that may be accurate, and it sure sounds right /\ 

That pretty much what I was going at.  If AGEIA really wants to make money, they should just make a secondary CPU-card that goes in the PCI slot (aka the same thing the PhysiX processor does), except make it so it can be used for things other than physics (aka semi-dual-core), but it can still be used for the PhysiX processing.  That way, the AGEIA card is actually USEFULL other than the 5 or so games that actually use AGIEA PhysiX

[QUOTE="KorJax"]

... have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). t0adphr0g

The PhysX cards (not PhysiX) are already priced below $150, so go get one already :)

 no

[QUOTE="t0adphr0g"][QUOTE="KorJax"]

... have the PhysiX cards avalalbe for purhcase for a reasonablly cheap price (less than $150 or so). onemic

The PhysX cards (not PhysiX) are already priced below $150, so go get one already :)

Or you could just get another GPU(I think it's only available to the geforce 8 series) and put it in SLI mode, so that the second GPU focuses on the physics.

That would be all well and good, HOWEVER, the games that use PhysX technology, (CellFactor, Unreal Tournament 3, Rainbow 6 Vegas, GRAW, GRAW2, Infernal, Splinter Cell 4, Vanguard, Joint Task Force, and City of Heroes/Villains etc)  are encoded to use the PhysX engine for enhanced physics processing and that adding an extra GPU will NOT emulate what was written for the PhysX card.

1st of all the game works like **** if you don't have Ageia PhysX video card or GeForce 7600GT or better

2nd if you don't have Ageia PhysX video card you can play only on 2 maps

3rd there's no multiplayer in that game

4th you can't play the game on max graphics - one graphic option is opened only for Ageia PhysX video card users

so i don't know how Ageia want to promote itself with this lame game which i was expected from that game to be a great one

simply i have to say: Ageia......shame on you!!!

[QUOTE="Terrorantula"]Crytek said the cards a bunch of crap and they wont be suppoting it for Crysis. Cell factor doesn't even need it apart from the fact it isn't optimized for use without itonemic

I bet you they pupposely didn't optmize it and probably didn't put in any support for multithreading so that everyone who doesn't have the card will think if they get a PPU their framrates will increase drastically. FUnny thing is there will barely be any difference.(Well at least for the non-physx required levels)

I would tend to agree. They made this game so people would run out and buy an expensive card that wont ever become necessary or mainstream except for this "free" game. I'm not a Vista hater because I use it but this is like releasing halo 2 for vista only...

Wasn't it proven that the nVidia 7000 series could do what the physx PPU can and that the thing is useless? I coulda sworn I read that.cametall

Yes, if you put the cards in SLI mode the second GPU focuses on the physics of a game, if said game supports the feature.