Please help me help my dad - FPS advice

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#1 123sonny
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Hi Guys,

I need to get my old man off doom 1 & 2and onto a new FPS. It saddens methat he has been playing + re-playing the same game over and over for the last decade. He plays about once every month or so.

Like Doom 1&2, I need a game that:

1. has very simple controls: Doom has up,down,left,right, jump,fire,open keys (+ the weapons). No mouse needed (i.e. 2D games are what i want)

2. has some fun, varied, good looking, good sounding guns.

3. Game is EASY & Simple (nothing complicated please). repeat: simple please.

5. Runs perfectly well on win XP. Doom 1 & 2 run absolutely wonderfully onXP. No glitches, runs smoothely and the sound and graphics hold up well for a game that's as old as my 6ft brother!

Thank you

Sonny

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#2 PcGamer2020
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Hi Guys,

I need to get my old man off doom 1 & 2and onto a new FPS. It saddens methat he has been playing + re-playing the same game over and over for the last decade. He plays about once every month or so.

Like Doom 1&2, I need a game that:

1. has very simple controls: Doom has up,down,left,right, jump,fire,open keys (+ the weapons). No mouse needed (i.e. 2D games are what i want)

2. has some fun, varied, good looking, good sounding guns.

3. Game is EASY & Simple (nothing complicated please). repeat: simple please.

5. Runs perfectly well on win XP. Doom 1 & 2 run absolutely wonderfully onXP. No glitches, runs smoothely and the sound and graphics hold up well for a game that's as old as my 6ft brother!

Thank you

Sonny

123sonny

All the good FPS need a mouse. I suggest Halo PC. It work just fine on XP, and its not that complicated. You shoot, you melee, you pick up weapons and ammo, and you drive.

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#3 RK-Mara
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FPS for PC that doesn't need a mouse? Why wont you just get him Doom 3? :)
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#4 HavocEbonlore
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Duke Nukem 3D would probably be a good choice. If he wants to move to more advanced FPSs eventually, Deus Ex and System Shock 2 will be terrific introductions; they've won many awards. Install the mods for SS2.

SS2 gameplay movie.

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#5 woolysockofdoom
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I would say start him off using a mouse; you really can't be playing games these days on the PC without one. Try getting him to play Half-Life 1 or 2 or Halo: Combat Evolved. Pretty basic games in their gameplay, but still really fun.
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#6 Judza
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Doom 3, keep him within his preferred universe.
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#7 humbugdude
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Get him a nice mouse and Halo and Unreal Tournament 2004. Also I heard Deus Ex is pretty fun.

If he hasn't yet, introduce him to online gaming via the first 2 of the above mentioned games. It's much more fun playing a game for years - even decades like with Starcraft - when you play with other people.

If you have a good computer or get one, don't forget to get Unreal Tournament 3 when it comes out (this holiday season)

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#8 doomsdaydave11
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Duke Nukem, Halo, and Doom 3 seem all like good choices. Also, he might like to try Unreal or Quake.
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#9 nutcrackr
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duke nukem 3d is obvious, still keyboard. quake 1 also can be done with keyboard. If you can get him to use a mouse I recommend giving him something like serious sam.
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#10 BlackAlpha666
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You can try giving him Half Life 1. That's the game that got me into the FPS mouse games. Before Half Life I hated those games with a passion. I only wanted to use the keyboard but once I saw the possibilities of the mouse, I never wanted to aim with the keyboard again.This was a real longtime ago by the way.

Half Life 1 is pretty simple gameplay wise and graphics wise so he might enjoy it.

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#11 onemic
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Why are people recommending him game like deus ex or SS2? Didn't he say he wants an FPS that's not complicated?
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#12 TheMotherBrain
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You can try giving him Half Life 1. That's the game that got me into the FPS mouse games. Before Half Life I hated those games with a passion. I only wanted to use the keyboard but once I saw the possibilities of the mouse, I never wanted to aim with the keyboard again.This was a real longtime ago by the way.

Half Life 1 is pretty simple gameplay wise and graphics wise so he might enjoy it.

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Half-Life would do the job, System Shock 2 might be a little complicated for him but I reccomend it anyway.

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#13 BlackAlpha666
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System Shock and Deus Ex might be too complex. First get him Half Life 1, teach him the basics. After that he might be ready for more complex stuff like Deus Ex (my choice) or System Shock.

The thing about Half Life 1 is that it's really basic. The beginning is piss easy and it gets harder and harder the more you play. By the time he finishes the game, he will be a FPS expert and he'll be able to play any FPS.Even I could play it when I was really crappy with the mouse. (Just too bad that I had to take a 1 year break because I got piss scared of the headcrabs and those weird noise the houndeyes make... The good ol' days.) But most importantly, the game has a pretty good story. Hell, it has an amazing story if you compare it to Doom!

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#14 123sonny
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Why are people recommending him game like deus ex or SS2? Didn't he say he wants an FPS that's not complicated?onemic

exactly sir! I know what my dad is like. NO MOUSE PLEASE. In all honesty, a doom 1 or 2 CLONE wole be fantastic! I.e. a game exaclty like doom 1 and 2.

No mouse please! been there, done that. As for deus ex. LOL ! GREAT GAME but MOST DEFINATELY not for my dad. In fact, it's the last game i'd recommend for him.don't ask mewhy! If you've played it , you'll know exactly how it is different from doom 1/2

HL1 + 2 are obviously very cool but again tey involve the mouse. More importantly, my dad hates squeamish stuff like head crabs andthe noise they make etc... He could barely sit through 5 mins of men in black with all those squishy aliens!

Duke nukem is cool but he's a little conservative and those strippers would put him off. Plus my mom walking in on him playing a game with strippers in, would not go down well! lol It was a good suggestion though. It's very similar to doom..not much of a plot..decent weapons. find keys and find the exit... hmmmm maybe i might have to get it as a 'plan b'. speacking of which, doesn anyone remember duke nukem 2d...that was cool! i wonder if i can get that for him...probably to hard to find now..

Any other suggestions please?

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#15 RedDanDoc
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Sorry for butting in to this thread but whats so bad about using a mouse ? Cant you just go into options on any game and configure it so that you dont need to use the mouse ? I remember having a laptop and the touch pad broke so i used to configure my space bar to do the mouse button comands like fire etc.
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#16 MythPro1
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I know you use a mouse in Serious Sam, but do you need one?

I'd also recommend Heretic, Hexen, Hexen II, and definately Strife (I think it still works with XP).

Plenty of old Dos-based shooters on Abandonware websites as well. Makes for finding the old games a wee bit easier. You can also purchase the Heretic series (Heretic, Hexen etc.) from Steam and it all works.

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#17 123sonny
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Sorry for butting in to this thread but whats so bad about using a mouse ? Cant you just go into options on any game and configure it so that you dont need to use the mouse ? I remember having a laptop and the touch pad broke so i used to configure my space bar to do the mouse button comands like fire etc.RedDanDoc

you're not butting in. more the merrier. the thing is, if you play a full 3d game (hl2, fear, modern shootersetc..)with no mouse it is bloody hard and you introduce more keys into your controls... where as a 2d-ish game like doom1 and 2...if an enemy is above you...you do not look up...the gun automatically fires up.

more controols = nightmare for my dad. He;s the smartest man i have ever met but he does not get along with technology

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#18 AsinineZomg
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[QUOTE="123sonny"]

Hi Guys,

I need to get my old man off doom 1 & 2and onto a new FPS. It saddens methat he has been playing + re-playing the same game over and over for the last decade. He plays about once every month or so.

Like Doom 1&2, I need a game that:

1. has very simple controls: Doom has up,down,left,right, jump,fire,open keys (+ the weapons). No mouse needed (i.e. 2D games are what i want)

2. has some fun, varied, good looking, good sounding guns.

3. Game is EASY & Simple (nothing complicated please). repeat: simple please.

5. Runs perfectly well on win XP. Doom 1 & 2 run absolutely wonderfully onXP. No glitches, runs smoothely and the sound and graphics hold up well for a game that's as old as my 6ft brother!

Thank you

Sonny

PcGamer2020

All the good FPS need a mouse. I suggest Halo PC. It work just fine on XP, and its not that complicated. You shoot, you melee, you pick up weapons and ammo, and you drive.

Who the hell would want to play that medicore game over Doom?
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#19 RedDanDoc
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[QUOTE="RedDanDoc"]Sorry for butting in to this thread but whats so bad about using a mouse ? Cant you just go into options on any game and configure it so that you dont need to use the mouse ? I remember having a laptop and the touch pad broke so i used to configure my space bar to do the mouse button comands like fire etc.123sonny

you're not butting in. more the merrier. the thing is, if you play a full 3d game (hl2, fear, modern shootersetc..)with no mouse it is bloody hard and you introduce more keys into your controls... where as a 2d-ish game like doom1 and 2...if an enemy is above you...you do not look up...the gun automatically fires up.

more controols = nightmare for my dad. He;s the smartest man i have ever met but he does not get along with technology

How would your father handle a gamepad ?
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#20 Citan76
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Like many have said if you are going to play an fps nowadays you have to use a mouse. If he doesn't want a recent game get him something like half-life one or quake 2. Those are both simple games. Really though most fps are simple games it shouldn't be an issue.
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#21 bmaisey
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You need a mouse for the vast majority of good fps games. Its so worth it just so you can play all the great games of the past few years well. Tbh, if you really dont want to introduce a mouse to him, he seems happy with what hes got, and thats pretty much all there is :P
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#22 AJMFace
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Like someone mentioned before, try heretic. That was my first FPS, and uses no mouse. In fact, it uses the Doom engine. No worries about strippers when your mom is around, this game is just about running around shooting monsters.