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#1 BlaDar3
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Hai all , im new to here , ( Malaysian) ... im preparing to buy a pc (Gaming) , but im noob for tat.. PLZ help me for picking good pc for ply... ~im thinking should i gaming on laptop or desktop ? ~do Pentium Dual-Core n Core i3 have big diff ? coz im trying to save my money ^^ ~and do graphic on motherboard have shader pixel ? ( its like devil may cry 4 n resident evil 5 , both need it ...) ~ram , do 2GB enough for ply with no lags ? or should i add till 4GB? ~harddisk , i think 500GB should be ok ? =) Graphic names n others after someone tell me , laptop better or desktop xD thx ~.~
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well , watever i just write down the system ...and pls help to pick which better to ply =X (1)Desktop: AMD Athlon II x2 255 2GB DDR3 ram Nividia Geforce 6150SE ( im not sure its graphic or inside the motherboard) 500GB HDD (2)Laptop: Intel Pentium Dual Core 8950 NV GT520/ 1GB VRAM 2GB DDR3 memory 500GB HDD
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#4 GTR12
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Desktop is better,

If your tight on monely look at an AMD CPU/motherboard.

CPU - AMD 955 (need to buy this quick as they are stopping production) or look into a FX4100 and AM3+ motherboard.

RAM - You need 4GB

GPU - Nvidia GTX460 or AMD6850 (if you can go higher, do so)

PSU - 550watt from Corsair, Antec, Thermaltech, Coolermaster

Case - What can you get?

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#5 BlaDar3
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(3) Desktop : Intel Pentium Dual Core E6700(3.2GHz, 2MB Cache) Intel GMA x4500 Graphics ( not sure too ,its graphic or inside the MBoard) 2GB DDR3 memory 500GB HDD (4)Laptop : AMD E450 ATI Radeon HD6320 2GB DDR3 memory 500GB HDD hmm...those sets got in the shop , please comment which better to ply games =_)
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#6 GTR12
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None, can you build your own?

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Desktop is better,

If your tight on monely look at an AMD CPU/motherboard.

CPU - AMD 955 (need to buy this quick as they are stopping production) or look into a FX4100 and AM3+ motherboard.

RAM - You need 4GB

GPU - Nvidia GTX460 or AMD6850 (if you can go higher, do so)

PSU - 550watt from Corsair, Antec, Thermaltech, Coolermaster

Case - What can you get?

GTR12
hmm , im not sure those item have sell in the shop =X but do NV Geforce 6150SE have shader pixel 3.0 and enough to ply with no lags? ( like games Prototype )
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#8 BlaDar3
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hmm... i think i can build 1 , but im not sure which item good to put in .. so...desktop to be build, Example : Intel Pentium Dual Core ( xxxxxx) 4GB DDR3 500GB HDD -hmm, graphich , i dont know which better...(but do 512mb enough? )
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#9 BlaDar3
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well , im building pc for ply : -Devil May Cry 4 -Prototype -Resident Evil 5 -COD: Black Ops -F.E.A.R -StarCraft 2 -GTA IV -others...
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hmmm ..guys will tis work good? Laptop : -Intel Core i5-2430m -NV Geforce GT 520M -4GB DDR3 memory -500GB ................Speakless.................
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hmmm ..guys will tis work good? Laptop : -Intel Core i5-2430m -NV Geforce GT 520M -4GB DDR3 memory -500GB ................Speakless.................BlaDar3


That is better but look go for at least a gt540m as the laptop gpu if you want to seriously game on a laptop as your main source of pc gaming this Acer is great for the price it is a good multi purpose laptop that can play games without scarificing battery life and still remianing pretty portable.

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-TimelineX-AS4830TG-6450-14-Inch-Aluminum/dp/B005J2JE4C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321175810&sr=8-1

as you can see from the benchamrks only game it really struggles to run is the Witcher 2 put they don't say the resolutions there testing at.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-540M.41715.0.html

If you want to get stronger you need to spend quite a bit more $1000+ and will lose battery life and portability. If you don't really need a laptop to take with you going with a desktop would be the better option for gaming and all the ones you listed are horrible gpu is **** itegrated that cannot run modern games and crappy old pentium proccesors.

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[QUOTE="BlaDar3"]hmmm ..guys will tis work good? Laptop : -Intel Core i5-2430m -NV Geforce GT 520M -4GB DDR3 memory -500GB ................Speakless.................DJ_Headshot

That is better but look go for at least a gt540m as the laptop gpu if you want to seriously game on a laptop as your main source of pc gaming this Acer is great for the price it is a good multi purpose laptop that can play games without scarificing battery life and still remianing pretty portable.

If you want to get stronger you need to spend quite a bit more $1000+ and will lose battery life and portability. If you don't really need a laptop to take with you going with a desktop would be the better option for gaming.

I checked tat type of laptop ..but http://www.blog.web6.org/acer-aspire-timelinex-as4830tg-6450-review-14-inch-aluminum-laptop-cobalt-blue/ got ppl said tat its has bad lagging for gaming..
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hmm...if its in a set, i think ill search for $450-600 ..=X
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[QUOTE="DJ_Headshot"]

[QUOTE="BlaDar3"]hmmm ..guys will tis work good? Laptop : -Intel Core i5-2430m -NV Geforce GT 520M -4GB DDR3 memory -500GB ................Speakless.................BlaDar3

That is better but look go for at least a gt540m as the laptop gpu if you want to seriously game on a laptop as your main source of pc gaming this Acer is great for the price it is a good multi purpose laptop that can play games without scarificing battery life and still remianing pretty portable.

If you want to get stronger you need to spend quite a bit more $1000+ and will lose battery life and portability. If you don't really need a laptop to take with you going with a desktop would be the better option for gaming.

I checked tat type of laptop ..but http://www.blog.web6.org/acer-aspire-timelinex-as4830tg-6450-review-14-inch-aluminum-laptop-cobalt-blue/ got ppl said tat its has bad lagging for gaming..

The laptop has a integrated much slower gpu it uses when not playing games to conserve battery life. If people where complaining about lag it was probably not switching to the gt 540m and scratch the $1000 for a better laptop here's one for $800 with a gt 555m which is what I would really recommend not a game it can't handle obviously not going to do high settings or max setting for the really demanding games being only a single laptop gpu. but all the game you listed will run very well at high settings at the laptops native resoltionand again a properly built desktop for the same amount of money would give you alot more performance for your money.

http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-08622MU-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Black/dp/B00519CDDC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1321176751&sr=8-1http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-555M.41933.0.html

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[QUOTE="GTR12"]

Desktop is better,

If your tight on monely look at an AMD CPU/motherboard.

CPU - AMD 955 (need to buy this quick as they are stopping production) or look into a FX4100 and AM3+ motherboard.

RAM - You need 4GB

GPU - Nvidia GTX460 or AMD6850 (if you can go higher, do so)

PSU - 550watt from Corsair, Antec, Thermaltech, Coolermaster

Case - What can you get?

BlaDar3

hmm , im not sure those item have sell in the shop =X but do NV Geforce 6150SE have shader pixel 3.0 and enough to ply with no lags? ( like games Prototype )

That is completely horrible card for gaming it was **** back when it was released and its even more useless now starcraft 2 lags at the lowest settings and quake live i have to run at the lowest settings to not lag.

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hmm...if its in a set, i think ill search for $450-600 ..=XBlaDar3

That's a pretty limited budget, but I'll try this out. You'd have to put the parts together, but luckily, putting a computer together is super easy.

Now, this build is assuming you don't need a monitor. I'd also like to assume you wouldn't need an OS, but you probably don't have an extra laying around.

CASE: Antec Three Hundred Mini Tower = $49.99 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=29812&vpn=THREE%20HUNDRED&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1282)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE = $117.99 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=47459&vpn=HDZ955FBGMBOX&manufacture=AMD&promoid=1282)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 board = $66.12 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55820&vpn=870%2DG45&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar)
GPU: Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 Cyclone = $149.99->$129 after rebate (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58225&vpn=GV%2DR685OC%2D1GD&manufacture=Gigabyte&promoid=1282)
PSU: Coolermaster extreme power plus 500W = $44.99 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171031)
RAM: 8GB Kingston HyperX RAM = $37.94 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57869&vpn=KHX1600C9D3K2%2F8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1282)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit = $109.99 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168321169860)

Keyboard: Logitech K120 = $16.99 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=54063&vpn=920%2D002478&manufacture=Logitech&promoid=1282)
Mouse: Logitech M100 Mouse = $13.99 (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=52894&vpn=910%2D001648&manufacture=Logitech)

= $587.99 after GPU rebate, forgot about rebates while selecting parts, could very well wind up a fair bit cheaper.

Was going to continue linking but it's too early in the morning for that. Did you a build. You can get the parts from 2 websites. You can probably find them all at one website, potentially, especially if you're American (All my prices are in Canadian dollars, from canadian websites). I'm pretty sure all the parts would fit together, but I can't find my ruler, so I kind of just eyeballed it. The power supply cables should reach, and the card should have enough room.

This $600 build will be able to play pretty much any game out there at solid settings. It just sucks that Windows is such a vampire on the built cost.

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#17 adamosmaki
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where are you gonna buy the pc/parts? Give us a link to the shop/s you are gonna get the parts so we can choose something decent with a reasonable price As for the pc's you posted no one is suited for gaming

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hmm, new cost : $500-700 ... but i think i should said out the name of item and let u all c and comment =( coz all name of graphic tat u all said, im not really know all about them... last time, we were talking to Gaming on desktop , now lets talk about laptop xD gotta ask few things 1st... : For Laptop : - do i3 or i5 got big diff ? ( or both about same? ) - NV Geforce GT 520M and Nv Geforce GT 540M is the same? O_o - so 4GB ram DDR3 on desktop is enough , but do 4GB on laptop can get the same for no lags? Addition : i think i cant put up the links for the item, bcoz i cant buy on online ...=X
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-Gaming

-Laptop

choose one.

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#20 BlaDar3
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-Gaming

-Laptop

choose one.

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hmm...Gaming ^^" laptop , coz can bring to anywhere...=X
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Is tis good? or not good , but can it still ply games with no lags? =X ~ Intel Core i5-2430M ~ Nv Geforce GT 520M ~ 4GB DDR3 or ~ Nv Geforce GT 540M 2GB VRAM better?
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Is tis good? or not good , but can it still ply games with no lags? =X ~ Intel Core i5-2430M ~ Nv Geforce GT 520M ~ 4GB DDR3 or ~ Nv Geforce GT 540M 2GB VRAM better?BlaDar3

or better yet, build a computer with a superior CPU an GPU and have left-over money for a laptop. You sure as hell aren't going to be playing Crysis at the train-station with a laptop & mouse.

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#23 BlaDar3
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srry...im not good in pc =X
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#24 Socijalisticka
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srry...im not good in pc =XBlaDar3

I'm not sure what parts are available for you in Malaysia.

For the CPU an ph2 x4 955 (or if you have the money an i5 2500k)

For the GPU an 6850 or (gtx 560 or 6870 if you have the money)

Are there any sites we can look at for options?

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A GT540 is a minimum in a laptop, look at graphics card first, everything else can fit around.

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#26 BlaDar3
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i know how toput it online ^^" http://buylaptop.com.my/web/products.asp?Id=1823 tis 4752g , do its can ply RE5 and DMC4 ? (or COD:black ops? ^^") i wasnt aiming my pc can ply all the latest game...
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If you want a laptop and want to play games decently then you shouldnt aim for anything under a gt540m. everything else doesnt really matter since you wont be running games on max settings so you dont really need a quad core cpu. Ram 4gb is plenty. not even going to mention anything else.

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i have checked the system for GT 540M n GT 520M , both were not too big diff.. so im think tat its okay if i use GT 520m... but i heard tat GT 540M is 2GB DDR3...but XXXX dont know wat to do... im aiming laptop coz ill usually at outside ...less on home, going colloge soon...
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ASUS laptop better or Acer ? ^^" ... RE : so i dont need a i5 core? do pentium dual core enough?
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well my friend has a acer laptop with a core i3 and a gt540 and he can game pretty decently of course if he cranks up the settings then it heats up pretty fast, you shuold also consider using some kind of cooler underneath it since you can feell the heat through the keyboard as well.

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#31 GTR12
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There is a huge difference between the GT520 and GT540.

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for now, laptop tat with good equip are cheap... for desktop if good item then expensive alot.... GT 520 highest is 1GB , and GT 540 highest is 2GB... for GT 540 2GB 's price , its got a little bit high =( do GT 520/540 can use in desktop?
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#33 GTR12
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for now, laptop tat with good equip are cheap... for desktop if good item then expensive alot.... GT 520 highest is 1GB , and GT 540 highest is 2GB... for GT 540 2GB 's price , its got a little bit high =( do GT 520/540 can use in desktop?BlaDar3

No, but you need to decide if your getting a laptop or desktop, theres no point in asking us laptop questions if you want a desktop, and vice versa.

Most desktops are more expensive, if you need monitor and OS as well, but then again, desktops are better in gaming.

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ooh kay =) do 'ATI Mobility Radeon HD6370 1 GB ' tis graphic good? and 1GB/2GB VRAM , its mean graphic ram? do 512mb graphic(desktop) enough to ply game with no lags?
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#35 GTR12
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ooh kay =) do 'ATI Mobility Radeon HD6370 1 GB ' tis graphic good? and 1GB/2GB VRAM , its mean graphic ram? do 512mb graphic(desktop) enough to ply game with no lags?BlaDar3

No, the 6370 isn't good, also don't look at VRAM, your making the obvious mistake. You could have a GT520 or a 6370 with 4GB VRAM, and I could just have a 6570 or GT540 with 1GB VRAM and my card would still beat the other card.

So is it a laptop or desktop you want?

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laptop for now.... coz i need to bring it alone with me... its got go till 4GB VRAM ?? O_o but my country pc shop just sell the highest 2GB VRAM ( but im not sure ) =P so , the best is GT 540 !GB VRAM?
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You will seriously regret buying a laptop. I did. I would rather not paly games when i'm on the move,instead when I go home have a great experieince playing on a monster machine that I built/

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laptop for now.... coz i need to bring it alone with me... its got go till 4GB VRAM ?? O_o but my country pc shop just sell the highest 2GB VRAM ( but im not sure ) =P so , the best is GT 540 !GB VRAM?BlaDar3

Ok laptop, it must have a GT540, DONT LOOK AT VRAM (its useless), just make sure it has a GT540, if there are a few laptops with a GT540, post all the specs of each laptop here.

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Spec : Intel Core i5-2430m NV Geforce GT 540m 2GB VRAM 4GB DDR3 memory 640GB HDD 14.0" LED LCD ....> Acer 4752G-2434G64
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You will seriously regret buying a laptop. I did. I would rather not paly games when i'm on the move,instead when I go home have a great experieince playing on a monster machine that I built/

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ill buy it this yr , coz i cant ply if its a desktop , im going to college for the coming 2-4 yrs , so i think imma get a laptop , it can bring to college and ply it there =X
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#41 BlaDar3
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hmm ...guys , i had checked the price for graphic ( desktop ) , its wasnt expensive for 512 - 1.5GB graphic like GT 210 / GT 9800 Series , both type best for gaming rite? ^^" do they stronger than GT 540m ? and i asked alot ppl, they said processor doesnt help to make the game fast, do it true or false? =X Gaming are need Ram / Graphic ? ?
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Spec : Intel Core i5-2430m NV Geforce GT 540m 2GB VRAM 4GB DDR3 memory 640GB HDD 14.0" LED LCD ....> Acer 4752G-2434G64BlaDar3

Ok thats a good 1, any others with a GT540 or even a 6570 or better? Only look at graphics card for the time being, the rest should fit in.

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#43 BlaDar3
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if processor dont help on gaming , then i might choose for desktop ... bcause i wan big size screen xD and desktop have faster speed ( not sure , or its same as laptop ) =P other than those, i also have bought a good speaker , while plying game will be like watching cinema ,haha =D
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#44 BlaDar3
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nope , tat shop just convect with GT 520/GT 540 ... there is 1 more, but its doesnt said the graphic name.. its just said 'ATI 1GB VRAM graphic ' Lenovo IdeaPad G470-8800
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#45 BlaDar3
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GTS 450 also best for gaming?
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#46 GTR12
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nope , tat shop just convect with GT 520/GT 540 ... there is 1 more, but its doesnt said the graphic name.. its just said 'ATI 1GB VRAM graphic ' Lenovo IdeaPad G470-8800BlaDar3

Thats a 6370, the Acer you said before is better.

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#47 BlaDar3
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does HD6370 good for gaming?
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#48 GTR12
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does HD6370 good for gaming? BlaDar3

No

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#49 Nethemis
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Donut?

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#50 BlaDar3
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donut ? well, laptop done, Desktop now ^^" do GT 210 , GT 430 , GT 440 , GT 250 good for gaming? and for desktop , do dual-core / Core 2 enough? Ram : 4GB/6GB DDR3?