Poll: Buying Dead Space 3? Executive Producer Doesnt See PC Version as Important

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#1 Gamesterpheonix
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So, after hearing about microtransations and then this douche bags excuses for providing a potentially very shoddy product Ive chosen not to buy the game. Whats your take: 

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/01/30/dead-space-3s-executive-producer-defends-pcs-straight-port/

 

Game is going to be a STRAIGHT port. 

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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Even if it was a proper PC game, I wouldn't bother with it.
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#3 Rattlesnake_8
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I'm not buying it on PC or on console.. Dead Space was amazing. Dead Space 2 was meh.. now they are concentrating on co-op and putting in micro transactions so I'm not going to bother. They strayed too much from the original formula which I loved so I'm not supporting it. I'll pick it up when it's really cheap to try out the story.
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#4 Baranga
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What's so bad about microtransactions that act as a skip button?

Where's the logic in already deciding not to buy it based on "potential" flaws?

Do you actually expect developers to say "yeah man we didn't have the budget and time to make an enhanced edition" instead of trying to be as diplomatic as possible towards their bosses and main audience?

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#5 -wildflower-
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RPS had a pretty decent editorial on this:  Dead Spin: Yes, the PC Deserves a Better Dead Space 3.

I paid a total of $10 for the first two games so I imagine I may pick this up eventually at the $5 mark.  

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#6 True_Sounds
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Haven't had the urge to play the 2nd one yet, so I doubt it.

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#7 II-Siamak-II
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I don't see what the big deal is, first two were pretty decent port and I finished both of them on PC. if you don't wanna pay for the weapons then don't, it wont make the game imposssible to play, I for one will buy the game and finish it, not on lunch day but sometimes down the road as my backlog is still huge.

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#9 FelipeInside
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So, after hearing about microtransations and then this douche bags excuses for providing a potentially very shoddy product Ive chosen not to buy the game. Whats your take: 

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/01/30/dead-space-3s-executive-producer-defends-pcs-straight-port/

 

Game is going to be a STRAIGHT port. 

Gamesterpheonix

Part 1 and 2 were straight ports and they worked fine....so will this.

It's stupid how people are over-reacting to DS3.  The developer came out on that article you posted and said they want to bring the same experience to PC as the other platforms and people complain?  Would u rather a buggy port?

Who cares if it doesn't have DX11 or some advanced PC feature, it will still look good and play good, that's what matters.

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#10 Elann2008
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What's so bad about microtransactions that act as a skip button?

Where's the logic in already deciding not to buy it based on "potential" flaws?

Do you actually expect developers to say "yeah man we didn't have the budget and time to make an enhanced edition" instead of trying to be as diplomatic as possible towards their bosses and main audience?

Baranga

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Call me cynical but I don't think 'some' PC gamers would have appreciated a proper PC version anyways. These drama queens usually look to cry about microtransactions that do not pertain to them and completely dismiss a game before it's even released without any first-hand experience and knowledge of it.

Gee, I wonder how many copies Max Payne 3 sold and that PC version was one hell of a PC game with all the bells and whistles and it had great optimization. Let me guess, not many PC gamers pulled out their wallet, not even for the mere price of $15 that the game is going on sale for on Amazon.com, right now.

I'm not bashing the good, supportive PC gamers. You are the guys keeping this platform alive and kicking! Others can go buy a console and stick to that only, because PC gaming is bigger than ever and it will continue to grow. It will all go back to the PC.

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#11 Mozuckint
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Barebones PC is tolerable

Microtransactions are annoying but meh, as long as they're truly optional.

However the game is on origin and appears to be trying to be something it is not. When there are other developers who do value my dollar without trying to add intrusive or otherwise inferior protections schemes or services, I think they should get priority dollars seeing as they are competing on actual value.

They don't want to put in extra effor that's fine really. The port will still be playable and that's cool with me. Just don't expect me to pay $60 for a simple product changing, when other devs out there generally take advantages and risks to get my dollar.

So no. I won't be purchasing DS3, maybe not until it's bargain bin, maybe not at all.

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I don't see the game as important. Period.
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#13 FelipeInside
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Barebones PC is tolerable

Microtransactions are annoying but meh, as long as they're truly optional.

However the game is on origin and appears to be trying to be something it is not. When there are other developers who do value my dollar without trying to add intrusive or otherwise inferior protections schemes or services, I think they should get priority dollars seeing as they are competing on actual value.

They don't want to put in extra effor that's fine really. The port will still be playable and that's cool with me. Just don't expect me to pay $60 for a simple product changing, when other devs out there generally take advantages and risks to get my dollar.

So no. I won't be purchasing DS3, maybe not until it's bargain bin, maybe not at all.

Mozuckint
Let me understand ur post, ur not getting DS3 cause it's on Origin?
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#14 DanielDust
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I still have to finish 2, will most likely get it sooner or later. As for the drama...MOTHER OF SMEAGOL Bot Capacity Upgrade $4.99 Bot Personality Pack $4.99 First Contact Pack Free (the insanity) Marauder Pack $4.99 Sharpshooter Pack $4.99 Tundra Recon Pack $4.99 Witness the Truth Pack $4.99 Bot Accelerator $4.99 Epic Weapon & Resource Pack $2.99 Online Pass $9.99 (console problem, this is like ME 2's w/e access for new copies) Ultra Weapon & Resource Pack $1.99 Resource Pack $0.99 That's like insanely...irrelevant and identical to ME 3 that everyone didn't even bother mentioning "once".
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#15 DJ_Headshot
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I still need to beat Dead Space 1 then buy and beat two before I even consider buying 3.
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#16 Childeater10
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I just don't want to use Origin to play it. I own the other two on console so i'll probably pick it up for that.

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#17 Dante2710
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I`m not bothered by it, i couldnt even push myself to finish the first one.
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#18 with_teeth26
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I'll probably end up getting it, loved the first two games, and from what I have seen/heard the changes being made to 3 won't have a big impact on the core singleplayer experience. I haven't decided if I'll get it on launch or wait a little while to try and get a good deal. 

EA seems kinda random with their game pricing, NFS Most Wanted was only 50 dollars but this is 60? I'd pre-order on GMG but they have some crappy special offer that prevents me from using the 20% off coupon, if this changes when it comes out I'll probably get it right off the bat. 

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#19 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Dead space 1 and 2 were great.

Dead space 3 screams consoles and EA

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#20 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I'll probably end up getting it, loved the first two games, and from what I have seen/heard the changes being made to 3 won't have a big impact on the core singleplayer experience. I haven't decided if I'll get it on launch or wait a little while to try and get a good deal. 

EA seems kinda random with their game pricing, NFS Most Wanted was only 50 dollars but this is 60? I'd pre-order on GMG but they have some crappy special offer that prevents me from using the 20% off coupon, if this changes when it comes out I'll probably get it right off the bat. 

with_teeth26

EA price games however the hell they want it seems. But the GMG code worked on Crysis 3 for me so it should have worked, strange. 

But yeah I have no interest in DS3 right now but I loved the first 2 so I migth get it down the line

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#21 BPoole96
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I had already written it off since I was disappointed by DS2 and everything I've seen of DS3 looks to be the same. Now that it is confirmed to be a crap PC version and has microtransactions I can just forget about it entirely.

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#22 FelipeInside
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Dead space 1 and 2 were great.

Dead space 3 screams consoles and EA

seanmcloughlin

Just because of MicroTransactions and OPTIONAL Co-Op?

Cause the rest is all the same.

I'm gonna keep this topic on my bookmarks so when the game launches, plays well on PC like part 1 and 2 did, I can come back and read thru the "PC version is crap" comments and giggle...

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#23 Mozuckint
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[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Let me understand ur post, ur not getting DS3 cause it's on Origin?

No. That is only one reason. I'm not buying dead space 3 because In my opinion there I find little value in it. I wasn't exactly expecting 2K resolution, 3D, DX11 support or anything, and I'm not particularly bothered that it is a barebone port. Even the Microtransactions don't bother me, again assuming they are indeed truly optional. But again, dollar for dollar, it's not coming up my alley, when there are other developers that do try to go that extra mile.
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#24 bonafidetk
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I'll get it in a year or so when it hits the £5 for co-op probably. I cant support AAA titles double dipping.
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#25 tanerb
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will probably buy when it goes to sales

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Dead space 1 and 2 were great.

Dead space 3 screams consoles and EA

FelipeInside

Just because of MicroTransactions and OPTIONAL Co-Op?

Cause the rest is all the same.

I'm gonna keep this topic on my bookmarks so when the game launches, plays well on PC like part 1 and 2 did, I can come back and read thru the "PC version is crap" comments and giggle...

Just the whole attitude towards the game is different, they're even marketing it different by themselves calling it a tactical shooter. Microtransactions don't bother me and neither does Co-op. It's the core gameplay that looks different. The idea of Isaac was he was clunky and slow in his huge battle tank suit. Causing you to turn slightly slower than normal and run slowly too and having to reload at crucial times building tension. But now they've give him much more mobility, things like a stupid combat roll (how is that possible in that solid mass of metal?) and they have hybrid weapons making it far easier to take out enemies and having to reload less. 

Everything just screams streamlined action and what I've seen so far (even the more horror type sections) seem a lot different. If it reviews well I will get it later, but right now I don't want it. I still have Dead Space 1 and 2 which are fantastic games

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#27 Gamesterpheonix
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What's so bad about microtransactions that act as a skip button?

Where's the logic in already deciding not to buy it based on "potential" flaws?

Do you actually expect developers to say "yeah man we didn't have the budget and time to make an enhanced edition" instead of trying to be as diplomatic as possible towards their bosses and main audience?

Baranga
The logic is looking back at history and EA and realizing that this sort of behavior results not only in a bad port but a bad experience. Maybe these things are okay with you but its that sort of feeding that encourage lazy stupid behavior on the part of the devs. These idiots delay every other game for the sake of piracy or whatever so they very well could delay the game a month, dedicate a team to porting the game properly and have thousands of PC gamers buying the game as a result. And dont talk to me about money, you see all the advertising. The game is a AAA title. They have the cash. One less 2 million dollar commercial and a months worth of dedication would be just fine.
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#28 with_teeth26
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Just the whole attitude towards the game is different, they're even marketing it different by themselves calling it a tactical shooter. Microtransactions don't bother me and neither does Co-op. It's the core gameplay that looks different. The idea of Isaac was he was clunky and slow in his huge battle tank suit. Causing you to turn slightly slower than normal and run slowly too and having to reload at crucial times building tension. But now they've give him much more mobility, things like a stupid combat roll (how is that possible in that solid mass of metal?) and they have hybrid weapons making it far easier to take out enemies and having to reload less. 

Everything just screams streamlined action and what I've seen so far (even the more horror type sections) seem a lot different. If it reviews well I will get it later, but right now I don't want it. I still have Dead Space 1 and 2 which are fantastic games

seanmcloughlin

I have been largely feeling the same way but i am starting to think EA is just marketing a bit differently so that it will have more mainstream appeal. From what I hear the actual moment to moment gameplay isn't much different from the first two games. DS 2 had more responsive controls but still retained the tension of the first game, so I am cautiously optimistic that the third game will play the same as the first two if you choose to ignore some of the gameplay additions. 

I'm still going to wait for it to come out and hear people's feedback but I don't think it will be as bad as some people are making it out to be. After all, its the same developers as the first two games, it will be much longer than the first two games (alledgedly) and has some additions that sound like a change for the better (finding resources for weapon crafting). 

Some things like microstransactions, rolling and a cover system are a bit hard to swallow I agree, the deliberate pace of the action in the first two games was one of its strongest points, but I am not giving up hope that the third game will scrap it entirely. 

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#29 FelipeInside
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@seanmcloughlin I see ur point and they are very valid points. hopefully it doesn't turn out as bad. Even though it might be focused on more action, lets cross fingers for those tense moments from,DS1. These kind of points I can accept as worries, but not the other "not buying cause of origin" "not buying cause of micro" "not buying cause no DX11"
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#30 cdragon_88
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IDK I got the game on pre-order from amazon dowloads and a $20 credit. I'll make my judgments AFTER i play the game.

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#31 Miroku32
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Still have to play the first 2 for see if I get any kind of interest for 3.
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#32 -wildflower-
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Microtransactions are annoying but meh, as long as they're truly optional.

 

Mozuckint

I guess it really depends on how one defines "optional."  

I wouldn't be a bit surprised (this is EA after all) if they made gear grinding so unbelievably tedious that many people would happily allow themselves to be nickle-and-dimed just to ease the monotony.  Anyone who believes "features" like micro-transactions or, say, real-money auction houses, don't affect game design decisions is fooling themselves.

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#33 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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@seanmcloughlin I see ur point and they are very valid points. hopefully it doesn't turn out as bad. Even though it might be focused on more action, lets cross fingers for those tense moments from,DS1. These kind of points I can accept as worries, but not the other "not buying cause of origin" "not buying cause of micro" "not buying cause no DX11"FelipeInside

I don't think the game will be bad as such. Visceral have made extremely polished dead space games and dead space 2 still has some of the best lighting I have ever seen in any game. This game will likely be very good at what it is, but what it is doesn't seem like something I want.

I will wait and see if it really is just getting flooded by all the action segments in the media but until it's proven otherwise I will think the worst and hopefully get pleasantly surprised. Secretly I want it to be good cos Dead Space is a great series

And yeah those other reasons are bullsh!t from some people. Origin isn't bad, people exaggerate too much. Micro transactions don't affect you if you don't let them and no Dx11 is a terrible reason not to play a game, one of the worst reasons actually. 

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#34 ChubbyGuy40
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As long as co-op is fun I'll buy it.

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#35 kozzy1234
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If its the same type of version as DS2 I dont see what the issue is, that ran well and looked good enough. Sure its not a dx11 pc special as would be nice, but as long as it doesnt run like crap and has the standard pc settings.

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#36 faizan_faizan
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I was actually going to buy the whole series, Now seeing that DS3's dev is pathetic console wh*** i ain't gonna buy the third one.

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#37 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I was actually going to buy the whole series, Now seeing that DS3's dev is pathetic console wh*** i ain't gonna buy the third one.

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What an incredibly short-sighted and arrogant attitude. Personally, if the game is only available through Origin in DD form, then I won't buy it. Origin is not as flexible as Gamefly, Amazon, or Steam when it comes to moving games from 1 pc to another. I use my WinXP netbook to download games using my fast university internet and then move them to my desktop PC to save bandwidth. Origin doesn't let me do that.
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#38 Baranga
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Origin is not as flexible as Gamefly, Amazon, or Steam when it comes to moving games from 1 pc to another. I use my WinXP netbook to download games using my fast university internet and then move them to my desktop PC to save bandwidth. Origin doesn't let me do that.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

How so? I reinstalled Windows and kept my Origin folder on another partition (I have the games, the installers and the program in the same folder). Everything works as long as I start it from the client and Origin even updates itself.

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#39 AmazonTreeBoa
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I am getting it. Played the demo and liked it.
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#40 SPYDER0416
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I loved the first two, but I don't see myself buying it on PC unless it gets to a ridiculously low price, and by that time I could probably find an equally cheap used copy at Gamestop for the PS3 or Xbox 360 version where I won't have to worry about it being a crappy port that might not work on my system.

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#41 enzyme36
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They are offering me too many ways to play for me to really complain about microtransactions.  We get classic mode, co-op, survivalist, hardcore, ng+... I mean thats a lot to get thru without a single microtransaction.

 

Heck even in last game you could buy bonus gun packages, and suits to start at default... I dont see any difference between this and microtransactions.  To me its just an optional purchace to enhance your character.

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#42 egger7577
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What a pompous console loving a**hole. I was considering this game but after reading this article I'll be passing on this one. Might as well buy this game for my PS3 if there's no difference in the game whatsoever.

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#43 FelipeInside
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What a pompous console loving a**hole. I was considering this game but after reading this article I'll be passing on this one. Might as well buy this game for my PS3 if there's no difference in the game whatsoever.

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Over-react much?
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#44 Lach0121
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I will prolly get it, cause I enjoyed the first 2.  Even with the potential flaws.

But I will not be getting it at launch, nor at full price. I will wait patiently for a sale.

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#45 Elann2008
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They are offering me too many ways to play for me to really complain about microtransactions.  We get classic mode, co-op, survivalist, hardcore, ng+... I mean thats a lot to get thru without a single microtransaction.

 

Heck even in last game you could buy bonus gun packages, and suits to start at default... I dont see any difference between this and microtransactions.  To me its just an optional purchace to enhance your character.

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Exactly. Thank you. Finally, someone besides Felipe, Lach, and a few others that have some sense. See, I didn't even know Dead Space 2 had those items to buy. So there you go. If this wasn't an announcement, most people wouldn't have known about Dead Space 3's microtransactions. Then again, these people overreacting will pirate the game anyways. Excuses excuses.
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#46 mhofever
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The fear factor in Dead Space 2 was sorta lost. After half way through, you know what to expect.

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#47 nutcrackr
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Already preordered. Love the series. 2 was a great port
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#48 Deadpool-n
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Where is the option for maybe or after the steam sale? I own Dead Space 1 & 2 as a result of a steam sale. I played most of 1 and haven't gotten into 2. I want to play through soon, but I have so many games and so little time.

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#49 DanielDust
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Where is the option for maybe or after the steam sale? I own Dead Space 1 & 2 as a result of a steam sale. I played most of 1 and haven't gotten into 2. I want to play through soon, but I have so many games and so little time.

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There won't be a Steam sale, because DS 3 won't be on Steam.
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#50 Deadpool-n
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[QUOTE="Deadpool-n"]

Where is the option for maybe or after the steam sale? I own Dead Space 1 & 2 as a result of a steam sale. I played most of 1 and haven't gotten into 2. I want to play through soon, but I have so many games and so little time.

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There won't be a Steam sale, because DS 3 won't be on Steam.

Then Origin or Amazon. That isn't the point anyways :P