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#1 neo8888
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if yes then why ,if no then whats so great about it that other rpg's lack

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#2 PublicNuisance
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No I don't. I loved playing it, I was staying up until 4AM every day playing it when I was playing it.

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#3 with_teeth26
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While i think its an excellent game, i think in some circles its been overrated. the environments/landscapes tend to be repetative (with some exceptions) and the combat while not using VATS is extremely clunky. the choice system is great, as are the side quests, but you really need to scratch around sometimes before you find any decent side quests, and often the best ones are masked under what appear to be boring grind quests for small bucks. (the one where you have to deliver a message). I still think that it is a very good game, just not worthy of the praise it receives from some.

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#4 purple_MAN1832
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It was a great game imo. Although it had some bugs and other issues I think it got the ratings it deserved.

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#5 neo8888
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While i think its an excellent game, i think in some circles its been overrated. the environments/landscapes tend to be repetative (with some exceptions) and the combat while not using VATS is extremely clunky. the choice system is great, as are the side quests, but you really need to scratch around sometimes before you find any decent side quests, and often the best ones are masked under what appear to be boring grind quests for small bucks. (the one where you have to deliver a message). I still think that it is a very good game, just not worthy of the praise it receives from some.

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exactly ,I totally agree with you ,btw that was the perfect reply
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#6 dnuggs40
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Loved the game. Thought VATS was a cool mechanics and worked extremely well. Also though the environment was fantastic. Exploring that world was great as there were so many sights to see and unique things to find.
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#7 dakan45
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if yes then why ,if no then whats so great about it that other rpg's lack

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hell no, its underated, most others sites rated the same as oblivion. What it has other rpg lack? Hmm lets see. its too damn big, yor money worh it. 1)It has a good story 2)It has an awesom worldmap, unlike the crappy ME masp 3)guns.... 4) Its not repettive or borring like ME 5) Every sidequest has the same quality as the main quest 6) those cool skills like lockpicking repairing and first aid, like achemy in oblivion, in most rpgs you ether a swordman or a mage or an archer 7) its world and stuff to do are so massive that they suck you in and you can forget all about the main story and screw around, its not just a game its life in a vitrual world 8) MEGA modding, add hundrends new guns, quests, items and expand the map by yourself... the best modding community ever thant will keep you entairtained for ages 9) 150 hours of non-repettive gameplay 10) no oblivion level balance system
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#8 neo8888
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[QUOTE="neo8888"]

if yes then why ,if no then whats so great about it that other rpg's lack

dakan45
hell no, its underated, most others sites rated the same as oblivion. What it has other rpg lack? Hmm lets see. its too damn big, yor money worh it. 1)It has a good story 2)It has an awesom worldmap, unlike the crappy ME masp 3)guns.... 4) Its not repettive or borring like ME 5) Every sidequest has the same quality as the main quest 6) those cool skills like lockpicking repairing and first aid, like achemy in oblivion, in most rpgs you ether a swordman or a mage or an archer 7) its world and stuff to do are so massive that they suck you in and you can forget all about the main story and screw around, its not just a game its life in a vitrual world 8) MEGA modding, add hundrends new guns, quests, items and expand the map by yourself... the best modding community ever thant will keep you entairtained for ages 9) 150 hours of non-repettive gameplay 10) no oblivion level balance system

i agree with most of your points but i think it has repetitive gameplay too
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#9 dakan45
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well if you personally belive that the dungeons in oblivion felt repettive...... then yeah it acutally has repettove quests :(

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#10 HenriH-42
Member since 2007 • 2113 Posts

Yes it is, but I think it's a good game.

What annoys me though are these guys who have never played Fallout 1 and 2, or played them for like 5 minutes and quit, and then bash the older games.

The older games are much better, but Fallout 3 is good too.

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#11 neo8888
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Yes it is, but I think it's a good game.

What annoys me though are these guys who have never played Fallout 1 and 2, or played them for like 5 minutes and quit, and then bash the older games.

The older games are much better, but Fallout 3 is good too.

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Very good point ,I actually think it was over priced too when it was released
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#12 Filthybastrd
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The game lacked a proper story and deeper rpg elements so yes. It's good but it gets too much credit.

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#13 naval
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Yes, I would say 7.5 would best score

cons : easy/simple combat, bland character, locations (95% of them), dialogues etc, some pretty lame quests

pros : some nice quests , decent leveling options, fun guns.

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#14 neo8888
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Yes, I would say 7.5 would best score

cons : easy/simple combat, bland character, locations (95% of them), dialogues etc, some pretty lame quests

pros : some nice quests , decent leveling options, fun guns.

naval
well I agree and It clearly shows because people who voted no ,don't have even the guts to reply
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#15 kozzy1234
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I think its over hyped a bit yes. But it still is a good game that turned out better then i was expecting. I just htink it could have been alot better.

Its defiantly not a 10/10 like alot of people say, or the best RPG ever like some say. Its more of a solid 8/10 for me personally.

Fallout1/2 had so many better quests, way more humour in the dialogue and the story was alot better imo. Fallout3 definatly has the better graphics and violence, but everything else I preffer in Fallout1/2.

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#16 neo8888
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I think its over hyped a bit yes. But it still is a good game that turned out better then i was expecting. I just htink it could have been alot better.

Its defiantly not a 10/10 like alot of people say, or the best RPG ever like some say. Its more of a solid 8/10 for me personally.

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even gamespot has given 9 lol
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#17 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="naval"]

Yes, I would say 7.5 would best score

cons : easy/simple combat, bland character, locations (95% of them), dialogues etc, some pretty lame quests

pros : some nice quests , decent leveling options, fun guns.

neo8888
well I agree and It clearly shows because people who voted no ,don't have even the guts to reply

I counted like 4 people who voted no and replied *boggle*
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#18 neo8888
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[QUOTE="neo8888"][QUOTE="naval"]

Yes, I would say 7.5 would best score

cons : easy/simple combat, bland character, locations (95% of them), dialogues etc, some pretty lame quests

pros : some nice quests , decent leveling options, fun guns.

dnuggs40
well I agree and It clearly shows because people who voted no ,don't have even the guts to reply

I counted like 4 people who voted no and replied *boggle*

I am not talking about you or people who have replied here my friend ,there are some people who here who never reply my thread but still do polling
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#19 Baranga
Member since 2005 • 14217 Posts

Yes.

Cons: weapons, VATS, broken skill system, story, writing, graphics, non-human gore (totally boring), immortal characters, craptastic coding

Pros: human(oid) gore, which somehow never gets old for me; the music, the Tranquility Lane, and The Pitt - which somehow managed to feel like proper Fallout

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#20 neo8888
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Yes.

Cons: weapons, VATS, broken skill system, story, writing, graphics, non-human gore (totally boring), immortal characters, craptastic coding

Pros: human(oid) gore, which somehow never gets old for me; the music, the Tranquility Lane, and The Pitt - which somehow managed to feel like proper Fallout

Baranga
which were the immortal characters (i haven't still finished the main quest) but you can tell me
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#21 Baranga
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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Yes.

Cons: weapons, VATS, broken skill system, story, writing, graphics, non-human gore (totally boring), immortal characters, craptastic coding

Pros: human(oid) gore, which somehow never gets old for me; the music, the Tranquility Lane, and The Pitt - which somehow managed to feel like proper Fallout

neo8888

which were the immortal characters (i haven't still finished the main quest) but you can tell me

Almost all people related to a quest :/

And all the kids.

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#22 chessmaster1989
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No, not at all. It's extremely fun. I'm not sure why, I just enjoyed it a lot more than games like Oblivion (TES).
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#23 dnuggs40
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[QUOTE="neo8888"][QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="neo8888"] well I agree and It clearly shows because people who voted no ,don't have even the guts to reply

I counted like 4 people who voted no and replied *boggle*

I am not talking about you or people who have replied here my friend ,there are some people who here who never reply my thread but still do polling

Well that goes for the people voting yes as well lol.
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#24 kozzy1234
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No, not at all. It's extremely fun. I'm not sure why, I just enjoyed it a lot more than games like Oblivion (TES).chessmaster1989

I defiantly enjoyed it more then Oblivion, but not as much as the other games in the Elderscrolls series.

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#25 ManicAce
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No, a great game, yeah not as good as FO1/2 and it could had been deeper in many ways, but still plenty of fun and a much better RPG than Oblivion was. Love the gameworld with the weapons, sounds, locations etc., and there were some very good missions. But the NPCs were still a bit too lifeless for my taste, most of the side-quests were boring and too much running around.
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#26 strevoir
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The major problem of this game is there're not much side quests that I have had no motivation to explore the places after finishing all of it, and the main story wasnt really that interesting.

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#27 neo8888
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The major problem of this game is there're not much side quests that I have had no motivation to explore the places after finishing all of it, and the main story wasnt really that interesting.

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i agree the main quest isnt ,thats why i haven't finished it yet lol
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#28 dakan45
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

I think its over hyped a bit yes. But it still is a good game that turned out better then i was expecting. I just htink it could have been alot better.

Its defiantly not a 10/10 like alot of people say, or the best RPG ever like some say. Its more of a solid 8/10 for me personally.

neo8888
even gamespot has given 9 lol

so all sites gave it 9.4
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#29 deactivated-59d151f079814
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If it was anything like Oblivion with the complete lack of rpg elements, than yea I would definitely say its extremely over-rated.. When I think Oblivion at best deserves a 7.0-7.5.. Thats just me of course.. Hopefully Fallout 3 fixed the staggering design problems Oblivion had.
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#30 True_Sounds
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I think VATS was a pretty ingenius way of incorporating RPG elements into a FPS style game. I don't currently have the patience or time for slower paced RPG's and I do like FPS alot. The pacing in F3 was great, the guns are fun, the gameplay is exciting. I don't mind a repetitive environment, it's a nuclear wasteland city and making the environment much different wouldn't feel right.

It's alot more fun to play than other open world FPS like STALKER imo, and it's much less repetitive than that game. It's a fun game to play, but I understand people being disapointed if they expected another Fallout 2 or KOTOR, because Fallout 3 won't satisfy your needs. Well deserved rating imo.

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#31 Astaroth2k
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Overrated big time.

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#32 snared04
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Yes. It wasn't bad per se, but it was kind of a shadowy imitation of it's former games, and of the Bethesda formula. It was disspointing in much the same way that Oblivion was a crap sequel to Morrowind. Gun selection was awful - most were useless, you could rely on the Rock-it-launcher the whole game, and the most cool and powerful weapons came far too late in the game. Enemy types were extremely limited Enemies were, by and larger, far too easy, and unintelligent. Thanks to VATS, this game was a breeze. Graphics were pretty nice, skins of armors, etc. were pretty commendable. Terrain was fairly boring There was a _decent_ amount of things to do outside the main storyline, but overall the world map was pretty depressingly small, reducing the replay value by quite a bit. One man's opinion.
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#33 GazaAli
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i think yes it is.i really didnt get to play it much,but i just hated the overall theme of the game.the characters looked horrible for me,and the combat system is nothing to remember.i found myself confused pretty easy,but i think for RPG hardcores,it is a masterpiece

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#34 shakmaster13
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Yes. I don''t know what it specifically was about the game, possibly the combat system, but I was bored nearly to tears. I just found it a very boring game.

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#35 gamerguy845
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I don't think it was either. The game had good reviews and most players liked it. I would say no if anything. It's one of the few games I go back to so I can explore.
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#36 weirjf
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While I think the main story could have been better and longer, all of the sub-plots really made up for it. I think it was rated appropriately.

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#37 -wildflower-
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Oh my, yes! Why?

1. Completely and utterly butchers the Fallout canon

2. Terrible story and, to add insult to injury, it's poorly written (main quest is trite, cliched, and rubbish)

3. Most ridiculous and idiotic ending to a game, ever

4. Very repetitive (cut and paste environments, quests, dialogue, characters etc.)

5. Poorly designed dungeon areas that are fairly pointless and boring (A Bethesda speciality I think)

6. User interface is garbage (FO3's console roots really show here)

7. Quite a few completely useless skills and stats and really and insult to the S.P.E.C.I.A.L system (characters all pretty much generic and indistinguishable)

8. Overly simple game (FO3 is a VERY easy game)

9. A lack of real and meaningful consequences and an overall lack of depth in the game (even blowing up Megaton really doesn't have much of an affect on the game one way or another )

10. Fairly short (although I suppose this is actually a blessing)

Overall, I thought Fallout 3 was a below average action-RPG and an absolutely terrible Fallout game.

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#38 metaltoiletry
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I think it's underrated by a lot of people, but I think reviewers do it justice, for the most part, which is unusual.It's the most fun I've had playing a game in a long time. I pre-ordered it before its release and picked it up the day of its release. I've been playing it ever since. I've played many other games since Fallout 3 was released, but I keep going back to Fallout 3. I love doing every single little thing in games I play, but most games have so little content these days.Fallout 1 and 2 were my favourite games when I was younger, so Fallout 3 was a really nice surprise when it was announced.

P.S. If you have played Fallout 1 and 2, there's many things you'll take notice of that will make playing Fallout 3 more fun.

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#40 Cdscottie
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You know, I honestly enjoyed this game. It may be over-rated in many circles but it is a fun game. However, it does have it's flaws. Such as a weak storyline, repetitive missions, and some very bland areas but not at one point did I want to stop playing because of these flaws. But hey, there are other games out there that are also over-rated (COD4) but who cares, just enjoy the game.
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#41 Macutchi
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no i dont, gamespot gave it a 9 and i fully agree with that score. theres certainly aspects of the game which you can criticise most of which have been discussed on this forum many times before but, overall, i think the pros far, far outweigh the cons. theres not many other games in the last year or two that ive spent such a long time playing

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#42 neo8888
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no i dont, gamespot gave it a 9 and i fully agree with that score. theres certainly aspects of the game which you can criticise most of which have been discussed on this forum many times before but, overall, i think the pros far, far outweigh the cons. theres not many other games in the last year or two that ive spent such a long time playing

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so you are saying that 9 is justified along with the heavy price tag of the game
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#43 felixiration
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Nope, it is an awesome game with a great story that deserves every bit of praise it gets. Then add all the dlc and its got one hell of a lifetime.

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#44 biggest_loser
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Is it overrated: by certain critics yes definitely. Gamespy labelled it the game of a generation. Please. Is it still a good game? Sure.

I've said this before though: It could have been brilliant but it isn't. Its nowhere near as good as a game like Deus Ex 1.

The RPG stuff is quite disappointing. The skills are poorly balanced. You have very limited options in what you can do. For example you MUST have a particular skill level to hack a security system. Say it requires 50 and you have 49 well no banana. There's no password to find or anything. Thats garbage. There are many other examples of this throughout the game.

The stealth system is rubbish as well and entirely unrewarding. You cant measure stealth in numbers. Thats just crap lol. What difference is stealth 40 to 50? You might as well shoot enemies because you get the experience points for it.

The combat is messy. You find yourself just aiming for headshots most of the time. There really isn't any point in shooting someone in the leg if you can just blow their head off. AI problems, enemies just standing out in the open, instantly seeing the player. Poor stealth again. Not enough hit animations

The main campaign is a bit of a mess. Pretty mediocre storyline, I thought the highlight was the virtual world thing but that felt like it was just chucked in. It didn't really make any sense. Big Liam is wasted.

The final level is deplorable. Way too easy, lousy ending.

A lot of the usual fetch quests. Mind you I played this after 40 hours of The Witcher. Forgive me if it seemed similar.

Visuals: amazing draw distance, dated animations. Wasted Karma system: all the moral implications for that terrible ending.

Also, when will developers that are NOT Valve learn to drop the silent protagonist. I mean c'mon. There are so few developers that do immersion well.

NOTE: Most of this is from my experience of the MAIN CAMPAIGN.

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#45 Mr_Ditters
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I liked oblivion and I thought it was great, but Fallout just didn't do it for me. Towards the end I felt like I wanted it to be over. I finished it just to say I finished it but didnt have much fun doing it.

I didn't like the scenery. It was depressing. The story seemed shallow.

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#46 neo8888
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I liked oblivion and I thought it was great, but Fallout just didn't do it for me. Towards the end I felt like I wanted it to be over. I finished it just to say I finished it but didnt have much fun doing it.

I didn't like the scenery. It was depressing. The story seemed shallow.

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Is it overrated: by certain critics yes definitely. Gamespy labelled it the game of a generation. Please. Is it still a good game? Sure.

I've said this before though: It could have been brilliant but it isn't. Its nowhere near as good as a game like Deus Ex 1.

The RPG stuff is quite disappointing. The skills are poorly balanced. You have very limited options in what you can do. For example you MUST have a particular skill level to hack a security system. Say it requires 50 and you have 49 well no banana. There's no password to find or anything. Thats garbage. There are many other examples of this throughout the game.

The stealth system is rubbish as well and entirely unrewarding. You cant measure stealth in numbers. Thats just crap lol. What difference is stealth 40 to 50? You might as well shoot enemies because you get the experience points for it.

The combat is messy. You find yourself just aiming for headshots most of the time. There really isn't any point in shooting someone in the leg if you can just blow their head off. AI problems, enemies just standing out in the open, instantly seeing the player. Poor stealth again. Not enough hit animations

The main campaign is a bit of a mess. Pretty mediocre storyline, I thought the highlight was the virtual world thing but that felt like it was just chucked in. It didn't really make any sense. Big Liam is wasted.

The final level is deplorable. Way too easy, lousy ending.

A lot of the usual fetch quests. Mind you I played this after 40 hours of The Witcher. Forgive me if it seemed similar.

Visuals: amazing draw distance, dated animations. Wasted Karma system: all the moral implications for that terrible ending.

Also, when will developers that are NOT Valve learn to drop the silent protagonist. I mean c'mon. There are so few developers that do immersion well.

NOTE: Most of this is from my experience of the MAIN CAMPAIGN.

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what about the price? is that justified
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#47 biggest_loser
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neo8888: for what I payed for it $79 (au) no I don't think so. I finished the main campaign and got about 20hours worth. I haven't touched it since.
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#48 neo8888
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neo8888: for what I payed for it $79 (au) no I don't think so. I finished the main campaign and got about 20hours worth. I haven't touched it since. biggest_loser
same here but I didn't even get a good deal ,i had to pay a bit more than that
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#49 thusaha
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I don't think it's overrated.

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#50 -tears-run-red-
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FO3, to me, is new and exciting. Great story, Great gameplay.