Poll: E8500 vs Q6600

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#1 iBP_Rickochet
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I've seen this question a couple times, and I was wondering what you guys thought was a better buy. Both have a very similar price (~190-195).

The E8500 is a Dual-Core Wolfdale at 3.16Ghz.

The Q6600 is a Quad-Core Kentsfield at 2.4Ghz.

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Im a pretty big multitasker and i love to edit videos, id go with quad.
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#3 bungie93
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For purely gaming, the E8500 is better.

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#4 mastershake575
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If I had to choose from those two then I would probaly choose the q6600 and overclock it a bit since its can reach 3.0-3.2 with a decent cooler. In reailty tho I would just get E2160, overclock it to 3ghz, save alot of money, and then make the jump to to quad core when its needed. If you wait till you actually need it then you can pick up a TRUE quad core nahalem by then.
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#5 holmes88777
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Games- E8500

Anything else- Q6600

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#7 RayvinAzn
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It really depends on the user. For someone who's not a big overclocker and mainly games, the E8500 is the superior choice. For someone who is a fairly confident overclocker and might use it for something other than gaming (or is planning on keeping it for several years), I'd go with the Q6600.

There is no clear-cut "one is better than the other" answer to the question. For me, I'd opt for the Q6600 given how often I upgrade, how well I know I can overclock, and given some of the things I do.

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#10 iBP_Rickochet
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Blah... I keep posting but then deleting b/c i don't really want to influence votes with my own posts. I should stop watching this thread, lol. I'm really curious what you ppl will pick, tho.
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#11 Elann2008
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E8500 for gaming.

Q6600 for the all-around PC user - desktop/movie editing/games/graphic design/multi-tasking.

To be honest, I would rather wait for the Q9550 price to drop and get that. I think that will be the best choice.

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#12 Snosavan24
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E8500 for gaming.

Q6600 for the all-around PC user - desktop/movie editing/games/graphic design/multi-tasking.

To be honest, I would rather wait for the Q9550 price to drop and get that. I think that will be the best choice.

Elann2008

Off topic, sorry, but didn't Intel Price drops already happen on the 22nd of July? Oh, and i choose quad :D.

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#13 imprezawrx500
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for gaming the e8500 for multimedia the q6600, but the e8500 will produce much less heat and be quiter
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#14 machine_B
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Q6600 is only 1066 FSB; E8500 is 1333 and has a higher clock, so it will be better for games.

I'm waiting for the Q9550 to come down in price and then I'll get one and overclock it to 3.Ghz :)

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#15 domke13
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Q6600 is only 1066 FSB; E8500 is 1333 and has a higher clock, so it will be better for games.

I'm waiting for the Q9550 to come down in price and then I'll get one and overclock it to 3.Ghz :)

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Wow. That's gona be one hell of an upgrade from ur E8400...

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#16 imprezawrx500
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well the e8500 beats the q6660 in a divx benchmark so more cores aren't always better even when its not gaming. itunes even the e8200 beats the q6600, power point to pdf all the wolfdales win over the q6600 same with photoshop and supriingley pinicale studios the q6600 falls behind the e8500 and e8400 and is only just in front of the e8200, but in premiere the quad wins. winrar all the wolfdales win again and same happen in xvid.

so basicly most of the time there is no reason to buy a q6600 over the e8500 and e8400 and often even the cheap e8200 beats the quad. basicly its seems its only really video editing program that the q6600 is the better choice.

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#17 Games_pro
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I've voted q6600,and I've always been a fan of core 2 quads,but in a couple of days Im going buy a new rig with an e8400 ,its 45nm,handles power alot better so its safer to overclock and alot cooler as I can't stand the fact that an overclocked q6600 reaches temps of 65~70 even with a decent cooler,I live where room temps are 30~40,so I don't expect it to be cool even at idle so I went with the cooler choice e8400 and I will leave quad cores to nehalem and to the era of ddr3
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#18 GTR2addict
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i went with quad, and im happy, i mean its not like its useful or anything, but a quad can be with full FF tabs, doing a few huge DL's and playing 3 games at one (BF2, GTR2, GTA SA) not to mention having pc wizard in the BG so i can see temps and core stress... with all that goin on, only 2 cores were at ~60 % use, could a dual core do that?
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well the e8500 beats the q6660 in a divx benchmark so more cores aren't always better even when its not gaming. itunes even the e8200 beats the q6600, power point to pdf all the wolfdales win over the q6600 same with photoshop and supriingley pinicale studios the q6600 falls behind the e8500 and e8400 and is only just in front of the e8200, but in premiere the quad wins. winrar all the wolfdales win again and same happen in xvid.

so basicly most of the time there is no reason to buy a q6600 over the e8500 and e8400 and often even the cheap e8200 beats the quad. basicly its seems its only really video editing program that the q6600 is the better choice.

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Never ever again will I accept Tomshardware benchmark results. Not after they posted that a single 7600GT out-performs two 7600GT's in SLI, and that one 7600GT performed better than the 7950GX2. These are just some of the many absurd things to come from that website.

I used to have the Q6600, it was great but was the bottleneck of my rig. My best mate has the E8500 and he too has had no problem with that. To be honest there is no clear winner and I feel that one would be happy with either choice.
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#20 Games_pro
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

well the e8500 beats the q6660 in a divx benchmark so more cores aren't always better even when its not gaming. itunes even the e8200 beats the q6600, power point to pdf all the wolfdales win over the q6600 same with photoshop and supriingley pinicale studios the q6600 falls behind the e8500 and e8400 and is only just in front of the e8200, but in premiere the quad wins. winrar all the wolfdales win again and same happen in xvid.

so basicly most of the time there is no reason to buy a q6600 over the e8500 and e8400 and often even the cheap e8200 beats the quad. basicly its seems its only really video editing program that the q6600 is the better choice.

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Never ever again will I accept Tomshardware benchmark results. Not after they posted that a single 7600GT out-performs two 7600GT's in SLI, and that one 7600GT performed better than the 7950GX2. These are just some of the many absurd things to come from that website.

I used to have the Q6600, it was great but was the bottleneck of my rig. My best mate has the E8500 and he too has had no problem with that. To be honest there is no clear winner and I feel that one would be happy with either choice.

I've also seen a weird thing on tomshardware which I didn't believe ,the e8400 beats q6600 in Supremme commander the only game that ultilizes four cores !!!

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#21 holmes88777
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Can't wait to get my E8400 with my new mobo, jumping from a 5400+. I live in AZ (Oh no! Well THAT place isn't very over clockable!) Oh yes it is, Mr. Bill. The room where my computer lives is 68-70 degrees all year round, which means my AMD is 30c on air, even overclocked! Well, as much as one can possibly overclock an 64FX
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#22 Staryoshi87
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E8500 if games are what you seek. Q-anything if you do video-editing, etc.
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#23 Jamiemydearx3
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For purely gaming, the E8500 is better.

bungie93
What he said, also you can also overclock it like crazy.
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#24 opamando
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Here's how I see it. My E6320 @ 2.4 handles every thing I have thrown at it just fine. So for now, I don't think you can go wrong with either CPU. It is more of what you think is going to happen in the near to distant future.

If you think that games will use quad more efficiently in the next year or two, then the Q6600 is the way to go, if you think it will take many years for quad to be fully used, then the E8500.

I just don't see that there is any clear cut winner now. But that's just the way I see it.

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#25 iBP_Rickochet
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Yeah... there's definetely no clear winner... I'm trying to gauge which way people swing on this choice.
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#26 CreasianDevaili
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I say e8500 for gaming. My e8400 4.05Ghz eats any so far i have jugged at it and spit it out.

Quad for workstation apps on the professional side as more than just a random thing to do.

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#27 bedram793
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I would get teh q6600, and then overclock it to like 3.0 GHz or even higher.
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#28 marcthpro
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you people are starting a topic fire XD Il show you something . BENCHMARK TIME it come a time where i must come to set the fire down or something.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
time to remind the folks ther 3 new cpu incoming
Q9550 is 310-330$
E8600 is 300$
E8500 is now 200$
Q9650 499$
With OC potential near the Qx9750 in theory
"note" those cpu are not before August & september the price
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283&p=8
this show the e8500 4.0ghz perform well but the QX9750 get an extra 10 fps for Gaming. so q6600 for gaming = out of mind

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There both great !
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]

well the e8500 beats the q6660 in a divx benchmark so more cores aren't always better even when its not gaming. itunes even the e8200 beats the q6600, power point to pdf all the wolfdales win over the q6600 same with photoshop and supriingley pinicale studios the q6600 falls behind the e8500 and e8400 and is only just in front of the e8200, but in premiere the quad wins. winrar all the wolfdales win again and same happen in xvid.

so basicly most of the time there is no reason to buy a q6600 over the e8500 and e8400 and often even the cheap e8200 beats the quad. basicly its seems its only really video editing program that the q6600 is the better choice.

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Never ever again will I accept Tomshardware benchmark results. Not after they posted that a single 7600GT out-performs two 7600GT's in SLI, and that one 7600GT performed better than the 7950GX2. These are just some of the many absurd things to come from that website.

I used to have the Q6600, it was great but was the bottleneck of my rig. My best mate has the E8500 and he too has had no problem with that. To be honest there is no clear winner and I feel that one would be happy with either choice.

I've also seen a weird thing on tomshardware which I didn't believe ,the e8400 beats q6600 in Supremme commander the only game that ultilizes four cores !!!

Just because a game utilizes 4 cores doesnt make it a totally quad core efficient game.The E8500 under all circumstances really is alot more faster than the Q6600 be it overclocked or not.A game will really need to be big time quad core efficnet for the Q6600 to win in any.

And comon an E8500 is no sloutch for your normal computer usage and multitasking.

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#31 marcthpro
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i still say wait more buck for Quad 300$ Quady Q9550 is expec tto be 20% stronger thne Q9300 wich is already 10% supperior then Q6600 and talking of 3.4GHZ Q6600 after Oc of course
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#32 Elann2008
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[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

E8500 for gaming.

Q6600 for the all-around PC user - desktop/movie editing/games/graphic design/multi-tasking.

To be honest, I would rather wait for the Q9550 price to drop and get that. I think that will be the best choice.

Snosavan24

Off topic, sorry, but didn't Intel Price drops already happen on the 22nd of July? Oh, and i choose quad :D.

Price drops didnt happen yet. At least not for the Q9550 or else it would have been MINE. :D I opted for the E8500 because of it's massive overclocking ability and honestly because I couldnt wait any longer. lol.

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#33 marcthpro
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i guess so ellan :P the uber ungamer of 360 ! the famous guy who amde noly 7000G! lol j/k buddy :P
still it happening by august or end of it. as i know off. they said someting it should happen as Q3 Say. but. they take there time
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#34 iBP_Rickochet
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No reason to release new technology if you already have 100% of the high-end market share, and there's not a whole lot of competition in the high-end.
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you people are starting a topic fire XD Il show you something . BENCHMARK TIME it come a time where i must come to set the fire down or something.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
time to remind the folks ther 3 new cpu incoming
Q9550 is 310-330$
E8600 is 300$
E8500 is now 200$
Q9650 499$
With OC potential near the Qx9750 in theory
"note" those cpu are not before August & september the price
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283&p=8
this show the e8500 4.0ghz perform well but the QX9750 get an extra 10 fps for Gaming. so q6600 for gaming = out of mind

marcthpro

I presume you mean QX9650 and QX9770? The QX9650 is about $1,000 USD if I'm not mistaken, with the QX9770 being significantly more.

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I don't get why anyone would buy the E8500, well unless it was for the same price .... I mean the E8400 is the same processor just a bit underclocked. Takes 2 minutes to overclock it.

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#37 Jamiemydearx3
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I don't get why anyone would buy the E8500, well unless it was for the same price .... I mean the E8400 is the same processor just a bit underclocked. Takes 2 minutes to overclock it.

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e8400 = 3.0ghz , 9.0 multiplier

e8500 = 3.16ghz , 9.5 multiplier

Higher multiplier = More stable, and higher overclock.

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#38 Digital_DJ_00
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My cards are on the E8500, especially if you're going to use it for gaming purposes.
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#39 fatherearth
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Now I'm disappointed that I got the Q6600 :( I don't really do much other than gaming, and now it looks like the E8500 would have been better. Well maybe the Q6600 is more future proof...hopefully.
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#40 CreasianDevaili
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[QUOTE="whitey_rolls"]

I don't get why anyone would buy the E8500, well unless it was for the same price .... I mean the E8400 is the same processor just a bit underclocked. Takes 2 minutes to overclock it.

Jamiemydearx3

e8400 = 3.0ghz , 9.0 multiplier

e8500 = 3.16ghz , 9.5 multiplier

Higher multiplier = More stable, and higher overclock.

9x multiplier is enough unless your motherboard sucks. If your motherboard is good then doing a 8x500 or 8x525 is better than running 9.5x422 or 9.5x442 in my opinion.

If you didnt know.. higher FSB is better performance! Also many on the e8400 reported better vcore to clock ratio stable by going 8x500 then 9x445. Also not all motherboards support a .5 multiplier so that can cut off alot if they do not know and buy.

Both of them have the same vcore limits. However as I said.. 8x500 will yield better bandwidth, thus raises everything, compared to just the mhz. Alot of factors to overclocking.

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[QUOTE="marcthpro"]

you people are starting a topic fire XD Il show you something . BENCHMARK TIME it come a time where i must come to set the fire down or something.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
time to remind the folks ther 3 new cpu incoming
Q9550 is 310-330$
E8600 is 300$
E8500 is now 200$
Q9650 499$
With OC potential near the Qx9750 in theory
"note" those cpu are not before August & september the price
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283&p=8
this show the e8500 4.0ghz perform well but the QX9750 get an extra 10 fps for Gaming. so q6600 for gaming = out of mind

raynimrod

I presume you mean QX9650 and QX9770? The QX9650 is about $1,000 USD if I'm not mistaken, with the QX9770 being significantly more.


no not QX there are new CPu brand without X less effifacnt a bit but about same power in theory
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"][QUOTE="marcthpro"]

you people are starting a topic fire XD Il show you something . BENCHMARK TIME it come a time where i must come to set the fire down or something.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2quad-q9300_9.html#sect0
time to remind the folks ther 3 new cpu incoming
Q9550 is 310-330$
E8600 is 300$
E8500 is now 200$
Q9650 499$
With OC potential near the Qx9750 in theory
"note" those cpu are not before August & september the price
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3283&p=8
this show the e8500 4.0ghz perform well but the QX9750 get an extra 10 fps for Gaming. so q6600 for gaming = out of mind

marcthpro

I presume you mean QX9650 and QX9770? The QX9650 is about $1,000 USD if I'm not mistaken, with the QX9770 being significantly more.


no not QX there are new CPu brand without X less effifacnt a bit but about same power in theory



Can you please link me to the Intel page? They sound interesting.
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#43 marcthpro
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There no intel page that show it it was a kind of press-releash i have no idea wher eit on there website but there
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#44 raynimrod
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But there's no Q9650 or QX9750 :o
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#45 domke13
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Now I'm disappointed that I got the Q6600 :( I don't really do much other than gaming, and now it looks like the E8500 would have been better. Well maybe the Q6600 is more future proof...hopefully.fatherearth

You can always OC Q6600 to 3.0ghz or above, with decent mobo, ram and psu.

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#46 marcthpro
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But there's no Q9650 or QX9750 :oraynimrod

http://forum.overclock3d.net/showthread.php?p=264448#post264448
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#47 2005wrxsti
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[QUOTE="fatherearth"]Now I'm disappointed that I got the Q6600 :( I don't really do much other than gaming, and now it looks like the E8500 would have been better. Well maybe the Q6600 is more future proof...hopefully.domke13

You can always OC Q6600 to 3.0ghz or above, with decent mobo, ram and psu.

He's right, just bump up the Q6600 to 3.0 and you'll be fine. Besides, that E8400 on newegg is like $169.00, chump change man.

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#48 marcthpro
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Why people love a 2005 cpu so much when a 9300 out-date performing in game even with oc. by 15%? i will never understand that. oh well
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#49 iBP_Rickochet
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Q9300 is much more expensive than a Q6600
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#50 marcthpro
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Not anymore that is 1 year ago. it about same price now. 266$ : And Q9450 is a rip off but : wich 10% more power in theory with oc : Q9550 with a extra 5% to 10% BY end of august like i said will reach for 320$-350$ 2.8ghz Stock Quad core: Q9650 for 500$ and a multpeiyer 9 someting wich would allow in theory. 4.0Ghz + OC Wic his realy good for Quad core should reach about Same performance as QX9750 4.0gHZ OC wich is 17fps higher then e8500 1920x1200 resolution : 4.0ghz oc a 200$ CPU e8500 newegg.com is 200$ Remind that. gET a e8500 or Q9550 nothing else