Poll: Is the blend of FPS/RPG really good?

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#1 cevic
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This is regarding the S.T.A.L.K.E.R fps/rpg blend. So show me your opinion.
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#2 monco59
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STALKER was ok I guess. The better FPS/RPG -hybrid IMO was Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.
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#3 Spindry69
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Stalker was a RPG? Ok it had some inventory management but it has no leveling whatsoever. You really couldn't call it a RPG anymore than Half Life.

 That aside I really like any multi gene games.

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#4 onemic
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This is regarding the S.T.A.L.K.E.R fps/rpg blend. So show me your opinion.cevic

STALKER wasn't an FPS/RPG 

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#5 ElectricNZ
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STALKER was ok I guess. The better FPS/RPG -hybrid IMO was Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.monco59

 

that would be the best 

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#6 cevic
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To me FPS/RPG is meaning a game has lots of FPS elements and cw a few RPG elements. So to me, Vampire: The Maquerade was meaning RPG/FPS and not FPS/RPG.
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#7 nutcrackr
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Stalker was more of an rpg than Half Life by a long way, artifacts, weapon degradation, armor, factions etc. I really like rpg/fps games, deus ex is a great example. For me it's the high amounts of potential the mix of genres have, fps and rpg both are fairly stale but combinng them and suddenly it feels fresh. I don't want every game to be fps/rpg but I would like more of them.
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#8 deactivated-57c0d5f03a20a
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I think your logic is stupid.
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#9 deactivated-5c20477a5e387
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System Shock 2 is one of the best games ever, so yes.
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#10 Lilac_Benjie
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  • Deus Ex
  • System Shock 2
  • Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
  • Stalker
  • Bioshock (Unreleased)
  • Hellgate: London (Unreleased)


Yeah, it's one of my favorite genres.

 

The only poor fps/rpg hybrids I can think of are the ones released by Silmarils. For example Robinsons Requiem, which you practically needed a medical degree to play. Since you would be injecting yourself with antibiotics, pain killers, amputating your own limbs, and so forth.

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#11 Spindry69
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Technically we could include Dark Messiah and Oblivion with these.
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#12 Agent_13
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I think the fps/rpg genre can be very fun. It adds a layer of strategy and replayability depending on how deep the rpg part is.
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#13 Gladestone1
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Hellgate london will have these factors..An the game looks great...
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Yes! I love System Shock 2.
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#15 EntwineX
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It could be awesome if they concentrated more on the RPG elements. The best things in RPGs are dialogue, choises, story, character development, NPC interaction and multiple ways to achieve goals. Multiple endings and side quests don't make a RPG or IMO even a FPS/RPG. Stalker was "kinda" bland on the RPG side of things, Bloodlines had the RPG part pretty good but lacked in the shooting department. Fallout3 could be the first game to truly be what I'm expecting from this genre, if Bethesda gets it right and doesn't water down the dialogue, NPCs and character development to the same level as in TES.
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#16 Staryoshi87
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Mass Effect will be a better standard for this hybrid genre. Stalker is kind of a letdown.
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#17 inoperativeRS
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[QUOTE="monco59"]STALKER was ok I guess. The better FPS/RPG -hybrid IMO was Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines.ElectricNZ

 

 

that would be the best

The second best. System Shock 2 > all.

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#18 emi_nem_313
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I can hardly wait to play bioshock. and about s.t.a.l.k.er. I have nothing to say beacause in my opion is a well thinked game and a very good one. as for dark messiah...I`ve like it. but what about CRYSIS????i know that is not a FPS/RPG or RPG/FPS  but I can hardly wait for the game to come on the market!!! it will be a REVOLUTION !!!

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 

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#19 RK-Mara
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STALKER is FPS with RPG elements.

 And STALKER is a great game, RPG elements must be part of it.

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well if you call "arrange stuff to inventory and add bonus protection with suits" RPG then you're wrong - it's not RPG at all - Dark Messiah is FPS/RPG blend - you learn skills, arrange in inventory stuff,

at least if in STALKER you could add stat points for accuracy with weapon, sprint and fast reload expertise and stuff that would be cool and you could call that FPS/RPG

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#21 SaDiZTiKStyLeZ
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Too bad Vampire Masuerade was all botched up. I actually have that sittin in front of me atm, been meaning to give it an install n try beating it.
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#22 EntwineX
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Too bad Vampire Masuerade was all botched up. I actually have that sittin in front of me atm, been meaning to give it an install n try beating it.SaDiZTiKStyLeZ
Definately give it a try, it has a nice number of patches out already, should fix most problems. One of the better RPGs imo.
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#23 mrbojangles25
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STALKER has no RPG elements.  The only thing remotely similiar to an RPG is the dialog and equipment parts.  You dont level, and the game doesnt have a good enough story that often accompanies an RPG.

FPS-RPG blends are games such as System Shock 2, Dues Ex, and Oblivion.

As for the question, yes, its one of the greatest sub-genres of all time.  Some of my favorite games are in this genre as well.

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#24 Lilac_Benjie
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STALKER has no RPG elements. The only thing remotely similiar to an RPG is the dialog and equipment parts. You dont level, and the game doesnt have a good enough story that often accompanies an RPG.

FPS-RPG blends are games such as System Shock 2, Dues Ex, and Oblivion.

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I would say that Stalker has more in common with Jagged Alliance than Deus Ex really. It does contain very minor RPG elements (dialogue, item degradation, side quests, inventory system, trader npc's), but they are only really there to enhance the tactical shooter element.

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#25 onemic
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STALKER has no RPG elements. The only thing remotely similiar to an RPG is the dialog and equipment parts. You dont level, and the game doesnt have a good enough story that often accompanies an RPG.

FPS-RPG blends are games such as System Shock 2, Dues Ex, and Oblivion.

As for the question, yes, its one of the greatest sub-genres of all time. Some of my favorite games are in this genre as well.

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#26 190586385885857957282413308806
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I think I've enjoyed every single hybrid game i've played. Deus Ex 1 and even 2, system shock 2, morrwind, oblivion, vampires... and if and when you guys decideif STALKER was one.... that game too

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#27 EntwineX
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STALKER has no RPG elements. The only thing remotely similiar to an RPG is the dialog and equipment parts. You dont level, and the game doesnt have a good enough story that often accompanies an RPG.

FPS-RPG blends are games such as System Shock 2, Dues Ex, and Oblivion.

As for the question, yes, its one of the greatest sub-genres of all time. Some of my favorite games are in this genre as well.

mrbojangles25
I kinda agree, it does differ from general FPS slightly by having several endings and a somewhat open-ended gameplay, but I don't think it still quite fits the describtion of RPG, I think someone mentioned making a difference between a FPS/RPG and RPG/FPS - Bloodlines being in the latter sub-genre and Stalker in the first one. I could live with that...
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#28 AdrianWerner
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To me STALKER played more like FPP action-adventure(mind you; Pc one), not like RPG. It is howewer much more open ended than SS2 and Dx(which were FPSes with light rpg elements, while Vampire is RPG with light FPS elements)
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#29 F4ll3n_1
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So long as the action is "real" (ie: not dice rolls) Im all for it. If I want dice rolls Ill play an RPG sort of RPG.  Not the FPS sort.
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#30 EntwineX
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So long as the action is "real" (ie: not dice rolls) Im all for it. If I want dice rolls Ill play an RPG sort of RPG. Not the FPS sort.F4ll3n_1
I agree, bullets should always do the amount of damage that they are capable of. But for e.g recoil could imo be controlled by points invested in strenght or something like firearms skill.
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#31 OkuLaris
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To me the blend is spot on for sure, it's definitely the best of both worlds imo.

I love FPS's and if you can mix in RPG elements into these games they truly stand out.

Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines is a diamond in the rough, what a great game!!! loved it.

Now STALKER could have been better, but hey at least it came out and it's not to shabby either. 8)

I wouldn't mind playing more FPS/RPG hybrids.

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#32 AlexRadu
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am i blind or am i not seeing any sort of comment on Dark Messiah of Might and Magic ? :S >.>
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#33 cevic
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#34 Thumper
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NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#35 F4ll3n_1
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am i blind or am i not seeing any sort of comment on Dark Messiah of Might and Magic ? :S >.>AlexRadu

Ah, you bring up a good point! Yes, DMoM has awesome action sequences, which is rare on a first person melee weapon level.

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#36 deactivated-59d151f079814
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  They need to make more FPS/RTS multiplayer games.. Games such as Natural Selection is awesome with a fine mix of shooter with base building, resource elments etc etc.
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#37 mrbojangles25
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  They need to make more FPS/RTS multiplayer games.. Games such as Natural Selection is awesome with a fine mix of shooter with base building, resource elments etc etc.sSubZerOo

Ahhh, and dont forget Battlezone!  Sure, it was a tank sim but it sure played like an FPS.  There was also another FPS-RTS (with tanks) that came out a while ago that was a blast, I cant remember the name though.  Something like Undying or Unyielding or something...

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#38 l-_-l
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No monthly fees=I would love to check it out. Monthly fees=I wouldn't even look at the box art while at the store.
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#39 Alaris83
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Giants: Citizen Kabuto was kinda FPS/RTS at times, and that was a great game.  Can somebody tell me why that game didn't take off?

 

On topic, I love the FPS/RPG blend, as it takes my two favorite genres and puts them together.  Deus Ex is probably the quintessential example of this.   

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#40 Velric
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I may be the only persont hat remembers it but the best FPS/RPG that I can think of was Stryfe.