Poll: The hardest Total War game

i would like to know which game was the most challenging to play, so vote up!

Empire before Darthmod because I could barely play the game at all.

Empire with Darthmod is somewhat exceptionally good, but M2TW and RTW have the best AI from what I have played, although I haven't played napolean yet.

continue voting! i ain't see no real result.

continue voting! i ain't see no real result.

jojo198

Shogun total war was definitely the hardest to beat. You could have the best army, the best tactics, best agriculture possible - and still your leader would manage to die within the first 3 years of starting, due to some kind of disease or another...You'd think after the 2nd or 3rd Daimyo had sneezed to death; they might have started to close the windows in winter...

Empire before Darthmod because I could barely play the game at all.

Empire with Darthmod is somewhat exceptionally good, but M2TW and RTW have the best AI from what I have played, although I haven't played napolean yet.

shakmaster13

I only played RTW, just a couple weeks ago, so I cant judge :P. Still, I gotta agree with the other poster took me a while to carve up the map even on easy, my towns kept rioting so my stacks of armies thin out trying to keep the peace. Had plentiful of fun fighting Romans and Egypts on opposite ends at the same time.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

Empire before Darthmod because I could barely play the game at all.

Empire with Darthmod is somewhat exceptionally good, but M2TW and RTW have the best AI from what I have played, although I haven't played napolean yet.

tehHaXo

The beautiful magical mod that fixes crashes, balancing, and AI. It also increases unit sizes and also renews the appearance of some units.

I only played RTW, just a couple weeks ago, so I cant judge :P. Still, I gotta agree with the other poster took me a while to carve up the map even on easy, my towns kept rioting so my stacks of armies thin out trying to keep the peace. Had plentiful of fun fighting Romans and Egypts on opposite ends at the same time.

Bikouchu35

i'm surprised that Napoleon has, well ZERO!

i'm surprised that Napoleon has, well ZERO!

jojo198

[QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

I only played RTW, just a couple weeks ago, so I cant judge :P. Still, I gotta agree with the other poster took me a while to carve up the map even on easy, my towns kept rioting so my stacks of armies thin out trying to keep the peace. Had plentiful of fun fighting Romans and Egypts on opposite ends at the same time.

angry_roman1011

Yeah, I made it harder for myself at the beginning I guess. I got lazy, but than I actually did the battles of course is too easy on easy... still I let Rome and Egypt grew too big by the time I fought them along with riots!!!

[QUOTE="angry_roman1011"][QUOTE="Bikouchu35"]

I only played RTW, just a couple weeks ago, so I cant judge :P. Still, I gotta agree with the other poster took me a while to carve up the map even on easy, my towns kept rioting so my stacks of armies thin out trying to keep the peace. Had plentiful of fun fighting Romans and Egypts on opposite ends at the same time.

Bikouchu35

Yeah, I made it harder for myself at the beginning I guess. I got lazy, but than I actually did the battles of course is too easy on easy... still I let Rome and Egypt grew too big by the time I fought them along with riots!!!

Rome and Napoleon are the hardest, and yes ive played them all

[QUOTE="jojo198"]

i'm surprised that Napoleon has, well ZERO!

angry_roman1011

Everything is improved in Napoleon over Empire.. AI, graphics, gameplay, soundtrack, Optimized ALOT better, better atmosphere, more challenging and an actaul story,etc... only thing that empire has on Napoleon is more factions and a bigger map.

I would love to see Empire as polished and as improved as Napoleon is, they really went all out as far as improving things from Empire goes imo.

Empire might last ya a bit longer then Napoleon but Napoleon is just a perfect package imo and back to the quality of earlyier total war games.

[QUOTE="angry_roman1011"][QUOTE="jojo198"]

i'm surprised that Napoleon has, well ZERO!

kozzy1234

Everything is improved in Napoleon over Empire.. AI, graphics, gameplay, soundtrack, Optimized ALOT better, better atmosphere and an actaul story,etc... only thing that empire has on Napoleon is more factions and a bigger map.

So it's basically a patched version of empire?

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="angry_roman1011"] Napoleon has eye candy graphics but less gameplay value especially in the campaign mode.(considering the fact that it takes more turns to chunk out a small army of line infantry)...shakmaster13

Everything is improved in Napoleon over Empire.. AI, graphics, gameplay, soundtrack, Optimized ALOT better, better atmosphere and an actaul story,etc... only thing that empire has on Napoleon is more factions and a bigger map.

So it's basically a patched version of empire?

Basically everything is improved appon. I thought Napoleon would be exactly the same as Empire, just an expansion pack... but everything that they did in Empire they have fixed, improved and just made alot better of an overall package. Empire is more ambitous, but the overall package in Napleon is far superior.

I couldnt have hoped for anything more in Napoleon to be honest, its fantastic.

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="angry_roman1011"] Napoleon has eye candy graphics but less gameplay value especially in the campaign mode.(considering the fact that it takes more turns to chunk out a small army of line infantry)...shakmaster13

Everything is improved in Napoleon over Empire.. AI, graphics, gameplay, soundtrack, Optimized ALOT better, better atmosphere and an actaul story,etc... only thing that empire has on Napoleon is more factions and a bigger map.

So it's basically a patched version of empire?

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Everything is improved in Napoleon over Empire.. AI, graphics, gameplay, soundtrack, Optimized ALOT better, better atmosphere and an actaul story,etc... only thing that empire has on Napoleon is more factions and a bigger map.

kozzy1234

So it's basically a patched version of empire?

Basically everything is improved appon. I thought Napoleon would be exactly the same as Empire, just an expansion pack... but everything that they did in Empire they have fixed, improved and just made alot better of an overall package. Empire is more ambitous, but the overall package in Napleon is far superior.

I couldnt have hoped for anything more in Napoleon to be honest, its fantastic.

If that is the case then it's no wonder Empire hasn't been decently patched. I guess they decided to scrap it and sell something that could just as easily be a mod (an ambitious one at that).

It also makes sense why CA hasn't released mod tools as well.

But... they're all so easy.

One of the first times I played RTW (my first TW game) I beat a rebel army of over 1000 units with a Generals body guard and one unit of heavy infantry. Historic victory.

And I almost had another legendary victory in ETW but the game froze and crashed.... didn't play it for quite a while after that.

But... they're all so easy.

One of the first times I played RTW (my first TW game) I beat a rebel army of over 1000 units with a Generals body guard and one unit of heavy infantry. Historic victory.

And I almost had another legendary victory in ETW but the game froze and crashed.... didn't play it for quite a while after that.

the_mitch28

[QUOTE="the_mitch28"]

But... they're all so easy.

One of the first times I played RTW (my first TW game) I beat a rebel army of over 1000 units with a Generals body guard and one unit of heavy infantry. Historic victory.

And I almost had another legendary victory in ETW but the game froze and crashed.... didn't play it for quite a while after that.

angry_roman1011

I know but they had over 1000 units and I had around 100.... they should of had no trouble crushing me regardless of tech and neither of my units were elite. I was just pointing out how easy the games are because of their dud AI.