Poll: What graphic card would you get with not a very high budget?

What graphic card would you get with not a very high budget?linkerik

what's their prices?

7900GTX without question

The 8600 series this time around as just a complete pile of crap. A 7900GS outperforms an 8600GTS and costs about $50 less. A 7950GT costs the same as an 8600GTS and completely destroys it in every graphical benchmark.  

[QUOTE="linkerik"]What graphic card would you get with not a very high budget?PredatorRules

what's their prices?

lol 

but the 8600gts has dx10.............i'm confused, shouldn't the 8600 be a lot better than 7xxx cards because its got dx10....and since its has got dx10 do you think it'll fare better than, lets say a 7950gt in crysis or other dx10 games?42316

Having DX10 means nothing. It's like saying that the FX series was automatically amazing because it supported DX9. Everyone knows that line of cards was crap. The 8600GTS can't even outperform the 7 series cards(7900GS and up) in DX9 mode and it costs a whole lot more. I can bet you in DX10 mode that card will barely be able to play anything that well.  

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10. 

8800 is awesome but  too expensive. 

7900GTX. But if you can find a 1950XTX at a similar price, buy that. The 8600 may support DX10 but that doesn't mean much. The only cards that are worth getting over the previous gen flagships at the moment, are 8800s.

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10.

8800 is awesome but too expensive.

linkerik

Like I said before DX10 means nothing 

ok.....now i get it, so right now if you can't afford an 8800 than don't go for any 8xxx series at all.....oh that makes sense....its kind of a shame really because the card it was supposed to be replacing, the 7600gt, was a brilliant buy in terms of price/performance.....oh well i hope nvidia have someting else up their sleeves for us mid-range folk.....or else ati might be the way to go....42316

I'd say wait for ATI. And this is coming from a loyal Nvidia buyer.  

And when it comes up to DX 10 games will the 7900 still be better that the 8600.

For the 8600 I had to change power supply but for the 7900 will I also have to if I have a 250 wat power supply?

And when it comes up to DX 10 games will the 7900 still be better that the 8600.

For the 8600 I had to change power supply but for the 7900 will I also have to if I have a 250 wat power supply?

 

linkerik

In DX9 mode yes the 7900 will be much better. The 7-series does not support DX10 though, but it will probably be better to run games at max settings in DX9 rather than at medium (or lower) in DX10.

As for the power supply, you will need a more powerful one either way. 250W is too low for such cards.

If the 7900 dose not support DX10 games then there is no point in getting one. Because in the future all games willl be dx10 wont they?linkerik

That's a pretty distant (in terms of hardware) future you're talking about. Every DX10 game that has been announced until now will support both DX9 and DX10. So, if you really want a DX10 card, better save up for a 8800 or wait for ATI's line up. 8600s aren't worth it.

I didnt understand that really well sorry. So lets say we play crisis with a 8600 and a 7900. Will you play better with the 7900 or with the 8600.linkerik

The 7900 will play Crysis better. DX9 max settings (7900) will be better than DX10 medium-low settings (8600).

I think I will get a 7900 then...linkerik

That or a 1950XTX if you can find it at a similar price. It's better than the 7900GTX. 

The problem is with most computer buffs...They have Egos. Unless it is the best. It is not worth it. Unless the game can be perfected at max specs...It is not worth it.

The thing about the 8600 is...It is not the best. The best way to describe it is...It scarfices power for utility and price. The card is definitly better then the 7600 series but is a bit behind the 7900. The thing is...The card also can be used on DX10 games.

Think about it this way...You can get the 8600 now for about 150. Now what alot of them are telling you is go for the 8800 which normally runs at 300 or so. You can get the 8600 for about 100-150less. So it is definitly not thetouch of the dead like a lot of people here are making it sound. To be honest...It is the sound cheaer choice. You are both ends covered to say.

But in my personal opinion...I agree with them. Why waste the money on it when the 8800 is much better. But here is the thing...Wait on it. do you need a new Card right now? The 8800 I've been noticing some models start to skim around 250(The vast majority are still 300+) But why not wait till end of summer or something? Till that one must have game and you know you need it comes out? The thing is...When the next ATI cards come out...Nvida is going to price drop the 8800 to compete with it. Guess what...200dollar or less 8800. Why not wait till then. About 50bucks more then both the 7900s and 8600...But so much more power^^ Or even better...That 8600 may go down to double digitals. Who knows...My advice is just wait.

The 8600 won't be able to play at high settings in either DX9 or DX10 mode. RazorGR

The 8600 will probably perform even worse in DX10 mode.  

The problem is with most computer buffs...They have Egos. Unless it is the best. It is not worth it. Unless the game can be perfected at max specs...It is not worth it.

The thing about the 8600 is...It is not the best. The best way to describe it is...It scarfices power for utility and price. The card is definitly better then the 7600 series but is a bit behind the 7900. The thing is...The card also can be used on DX10 games.

Think about it this way...You can get the 8600 now for about 150. Now what alot of them are telling you is go for the 8800 which normally runs at 300 or so. You can get the 8600 for about 100-150less. So it is definitly not thetouch of the dead like a lot of people here are making it sound. To be honest...It is the sound cheaer choice. You are both ends covered to say.

 

But in my personal opinion...I agree with them. Why waste the money on it when the 8800 is much better. But here is the thing...Wait on it. do you need a new Card right now? The 8800 I've been noticing some models start to skim around 250(The vast majority are still 300+) But why not wait till end of summer or something? Till that one must have game and you know you need it comes out? The thing is...When the next ATI cards come out...Nvida is going to price drop the 8800 to compete with it. Guess what...200dollar or less 8800. Why not wait till then. About 50bucks more then both the 7900s and 8600...But so much more power^^ Or even better...That 8600 may go down to double digitals. Who knows...My advice is just wait.

 

Acenso

I agree. Nvidia will be forced to significant drop prices of 8800 GTS, since the new ATI champion will probably beat it. So wait for 2 week or semthing like that, and 8800 GTS will be probably a lot cheaper.

8800 GTX is a different story, since it will still be the best card out there even after ATI releases it cards. But 8800 GTS is still a very very very good card, which will probably be able to maxed out crysis. 

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10.

8800 is awesome but too expensive.

linkerik

 8800 GTS 320 MB is quite affordable.  I found one for another poseter for $260  on newegg.com - there may be better deals than that.  The 8800 GTS 320 MB is far superior to the 7900 and the 8600, and it's not that much more money.  Just something to consider.

I am from Spain and here the oficial price is 230 euros for the 8600 and 300 for the 8800gts so im just going to wait a bit and get the 8800. It would be easier if I did not have to chande power supply witch is another 100 euros :)

I was going to buy Vista now but maybe I will get the 8800 first.

What graphic card would you get with not a very high budget?linkerik

Well the question is whether you think about SLI or not.

Personally I have 7600GT and I'm totally satisfied in all aspects, although  I don't know how well it will go on vista.

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10. 

8800 is awesome but  too expensive. 

linkerik

get a GeForce 7950GX2 - that will be better than the 8600

I am from Spain and here the oficial price is 230 euros for the 8600 and 300 for the 8800gts so im just going to wait a bit and get the 8800. It would be easier if I did not have to chande power supply witch is another 100 euros :)

I was going to buy Vista now but maybe I will get the 8800 first.

linkerik

Worst poll ever because the 8800GTX is > the 8800GTS and the X1950XTX is > than the 7900GTX for most games.

Oh WTF?  8600GTS?  What is this thread poster total stupid?!?  I would buy a 7900GS over an 8600GTS!!  The 8600s are pure garbage!

I will just keep posting this in every thread on the subject -

Review #1 - http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/426/22/

"I think everybody expected the 8600 series to perform better in games. The GT is merely 15% faster than a 7600 GT in most scenarios; with the GTS performing at roughly 7900 GS or Radeon X1950 Pro performance. A Radeon X1950 Pro or 7900 GS for example will outperform the GTS in many scenarios and is a good amount cheaper. I can pick either one of them up here in the Netherlands for 150 EUR. Sure, these cards are not DX10 compatible but I think you'll see a lot of reviews today with exactly the same sentiment. Yours truly expected more performance. The 32 Shader cores and the choice of 128-bit memory are the responsible key issues here, and NVIDIA knows this. This is why the clock frequencies on the cards are so high." 

"I'm extremely curious how a DX10 title like Crysis will perform on cards like these, and while DX10 performance might be a tad better I do not predict anything good. "

Review #2 - http://www.gamespot.com/features/6169151/p-2.html

"The GeForce 8600 GTS and the GeForce 8600 GT wowed and disappointed us at the same time. Performance in shader intensive games like Oblivion was impressive; however neither of the cards offers performance gains over what you can already purchase in the sub-$200 category. More often than not, the 8600s lag behind the GeForce 7900 GS, the Radeon X1950 Pro, and especially the Radeon X1900 XT. The allure of DirectX 10 support might count for something, but we're not prepared to give Nvidia credit until we see how these cards actually perform with DirectX 10 games. For the moment, we'd pass on the GeForce 8600 GTS and the GeForce 8600 GT in favor of similarly priced higher-performance DirectX 9 cards. If you're willing to spend a little more, the GeForce 8800 GTS 320MB provides vastly superior performance."

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I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10.

8800 is awesome but too expensive.

onemic

Like I said before DX10 means nothing

what are you talking about? Of course Dx10 means something. Maybe not right now, but when Dx10 games and applications come out.

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="linkerik"]

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10.

8800 is awesome but too expensive.

doomsdaydave11

Like I said before DX10 means nothing

what are you talking about? Of course Dx10 means something. Maybe not right now, but when Dx10 games and applications come out.

The problem is that even though this card supports DX10, it is probably too slow to play any DX 10 games at reasonable quality settings and frame rates.  I mean, technically, a lot of integrated graphics chips support DX 9, but can't run FEAR for the life ot them.

[QUOTE="doomsdaydave11"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="linkerik"]

I am also confused , everyone says 79000 is better and its true I have seen the specs of all cards but 8600 has DX10.

8800 is awesome but too expensive.

Jack_Summersby

Like I said before DX10 means nothing

what are you talking about? Of course Dx10 means something. Maybe not right now, but when Dx10 games and applications come out.

The problem is that even though this card supports DX10, it is probably too slow to play any DX 10 games at reasonable quality settings and frame rates.  I mean, technically, a lot of integrated graphics chips support DX 9, but can't run FEAR for the life ot them.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding!!!  We have a winner. 

Another good example is going back and playing FarCry (one of the early high graphics DX9 games) on a FX5600 (one of the early mid-range DX9 cards, the same as the 8600s are to DX10).  That would really be great huh?  And that FX5600 was really usable for a long time for DX9 games huh?

On newegg, the 7900 GTX goes for about $400. Now that's alot. The 8800 GTS goes for about $260. The 8600 GTS goes for about $180. These prices include rebates too.

 So I guess you guys could think of them in price to performance ratio.

On newegg, the 7900 GTX goes for about $400. Now that's alot. The 8800 GTS goes for about $260. The 8600 GTS goes for about $180. These prices include rebates too.

So I guess you guys could think of them in price to performance ratio.

VfighterX

What are you talking about? You must be looking at some overclocked edition of that card. And just so you know the 8600GTS goes on sale for around 199.99. For the exact same price you could net yourself a 7950GT,(meaning that your price range for the 7900GTX is 100% off) which completely destroys the 8600GTS in every graphical benchmark possible.

[QUOTE="VfighterX"]

On newegg, the 7900 GTX goes for about $400. Now that's alot. The 8800 GTS goes for about $260. The 8600 GTS goes for about $180. These prices include rebates too.

So I guess you guys could think of them in price to performance ratio.

onemic

What are you talking about? You must be looking at some overclocked edition of that card. And just so you know the 8600GTS goes on sale for around 199.99. For the exact same price you could net yourself a 7950GT,(meaning that your price range for the 7900GTX is 100% off) which completely destroys the 8600GTS in every graphical benchmark possible.

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about the 7900GTX is a $400 card anywhere you look. I've checked several sites and there not the OC verison.

Yes the 7900GTX has always been expensive and is discontinued.  That's why its $400 and you can hardly find them.  This is one of the worst polls ever made. 

You compare the 8600GTS to the 7900GS, 7950GT or X1950XT.

You don't consider the 7900GTX because you can get an 8800GTS for $260 which is better than all of them!!  I don't think the person that made this poll knows much about hardware at all. 

[QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="VfighterX"]

On newegg, the 7900 GTX goes for about $400. Now that's alot. The 8800 GTS goes for about $260. The 8600 GTS goes for about $180. These prices include rebates too.

So I guess you guys could think of them in price to performance ratio.

jamesgj

What are you talking about? You must be looking at some overclocked edition of that card. And just so you know the 8600GTS goes on sale for around 199.99. For the exact same price you could net yourself a 7950GT,(meaning that your price range for the 7900GTX is 100% off) which completely destroys the 8600GTS in every graphical benchmark possible.

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about the 7900GTX is a $400 card anywhere you look. I've checked several sites and there not the OC verison.

Oh, it's because it's discontinued. That's why. The 7950GT is a better card than the 7900GTX and costs the exact same as the 8600GTS. Like I said before the 8600GTS can't even stand up to it. 

[QUOTE="jamesgj"][QUOTE="onemic"][QUOTE="VfighterX"]

On newegg, the 7900 GTX goes for about $400. Now that's alot. The 8800 GTS goes for about $260. The 8600 GTS goes for about $180. These prices include rebates too.

So I guess you guys could think of them in price to performance ratio.

onemic

What are you talking about? You must be looking at some overclocked edition of that card. And just so you know the 8600GTS goes on sale for around 199.99. For the exact same price you could net yourself a 7950GT,(meaning that your price range for the 7900GTX is 100% off) which completely destroys the 8600GTS in every graphical benchmark possible.

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about the 7900GTX is a $400 card anywhere you look. I've checked several sites and there not the OC verison.

Oh, it's because it's discontinued. That's why. The 7950GT is a better card than the 7900GTX and costs the exact same as the 8600GTS. Like I said before the 8600GTS can't even stand up to it. 

Dude the 7900GTX slaughters the 7950GT!!  Its just that NVIDIA decided not to produce many and come out with the 8800GTS to replace it on the high end of the market instead!

Here is the break down, the 8600GTS is basically a 7900GS with DX10.  Then you have the 7900GT which has been discontinued also.  Then you have the 7950GT which has been made the affordable mid-range DX9 card.  Then you have the X1950XT which beats the 7950GT but costs less, the X1950XT is the best buy in the DX9 market.

Then you have the 8800GTS for $270 which is by far the best buy on the market as it has fantastic speed in DX9 and also is DX10.  If you want a DX10 card you should not consider anything but the 8800GTS.  If you cant afford that then just get the X1950XT for $170 and it beats everything else except the 7900GTX, 7950GX2, and X1950XTX which are all over $400!

If I were buying a card today it would be a choice between 2 cards.  The X1950XT for $170 or the 8800GTS for $270.  Those are really the only two cards anyone should consider. 

If you want to go cheap get the 7900GS or the X1950PRO over the 8600GTS.  But its my opinion that both these cards are too weak and will be two short lived to bother with and you should just save your money until you can afford either the X1950XT or the 8800GTS.