Portal 2 Graphics comparison by Gamespot = clear winner

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#1 multiplat
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i dont see how they came to the conclusion that the PC is not a clear cut winner....in all the comparison pics, the PC had a cripser cleaner look...and the consoles were just very blurry in comparison.

So what if a toilet's shadow on the 360 goes back 5.787 feet behind it , as opposed to the PC's 5.4587 feet shadow....instead y not just look at the most obvious graphical attributes instead of minor stuff

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#2 edinsftw
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Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

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#3 multiplat
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Oh ya i remember the MGS4 best graphics nod....ahahahahhhahah side splitting stuff...i think their logic was that it had the best graphics based on "its tech"... in that case, a late swan song game like Smackdown vs Raw for PS2, should have won the best graphics award.

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Ooh i like that AO mod they had.
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AO mod? forgive my ignorance :P

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Gamespot apparently thinks that the more shadows drawn in stencil, the more realistic it is, which is false. PC uses real time lighting, that's what shadows would really look like....not something out of a stencil

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Ooh i like that AO mod they had.ferret-gamer

I don't recommend it. I tried it last night and it crippled my performance from a perfect 60fps (V-sync. Only game thats given me really bad screen tearing) to 10-15ish FPS and made it sluggish. Didn't change no matter what settings I used. It did look really nice though.

I think I'm in the minority as many people say its working perfectly fine.

AO mod? forgive my ignorance :P

Batang_X990

Ambient Occlusion I think.

And also, we gotta remember as said above, this is from the people who gave MGS4 graphics of 2008 over Warhead. And UC2 graphics over Cryostasis. AND God of War 3 over Metro 2033. I bet they're gonna give Battlefield 3 graphics of 2011...on consoles.

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Considering most of the good PC reviewers left GS years ago and PC is pretty much not as reported here as all other platforms I take this with a grain of salt.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]Ooh i like that AO mod they had.ChubbyGuy40

I don't recommend it. I tried it last night and it crippled my performance from a perfect 60fps (V-sync. Only game thats given me really bad screen tearing) to 10-15ish FPS and made it sluggish. Didn't change no matter what settings I used. It did look really nice though.

I think I'm in the minority as many people say its working perfectly fine.

AO mod? forgive my ignorance :P

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Ambient Occlusion I think.

And also, we gotta remember as said above, this is from the people who gave MGS4 graphics of 2008 over Warhead. And UC2 graphics over Cryostasis. AND God of War 3 over Metro 2033. I bet they're gonna give Battlefield 3 graphics of 2011...on consoles.

It knocked me down to mid 40s, but no screen tearing. I think i can do without the AO for 60fps though
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Considering most of the good PC reviewers left GS years ago and PC is pretty much not as reported here as all other platforms I take this with a grain of salt. 6matt6
this. i dont even come here for my pc game news/reviews anymore because of this.
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#11 JangoWuzHere
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I didn't play it...but I didn't see a huge difference between the platforms besides it being at a higher res.

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Still-frame screenshots don't do justice for which game "looks" better. When the game is in motion is when you really notice how crisp a PC game looks compared to consoles. I'm watching my brother play Portal 2 on PS3 as I type this, so I can see how it looks in motion.

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Oh ya i remember the MGS4 best graphics nod....ahahahahhhahah side splitting stuff...i think their logic was that it had the best graphics based on "its tech"... in that case, a late swan song game like Smackdown vs Raw for PS2, should have won the best graphics award.

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Well, I think the thing was that MGS4 ran on every PS3 and with Crysis...........well you kinda see.....
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]Considering most of the good PC reviewers left GS years ago and PC is pretty much not as reported here as all other platforms I take this with a grain of salt. yellosnolvr
this. i dont even come here for my pc game news/reviews anymore because of this.

I second this.
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Gamespot is a joke.
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#16 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Come on, in this day and age when people whine about console ports higher res and better AA is simply not enough in people's eyes to beat a console version (even though obvious it looks better). Couple this with missing shadows, etc and people get confused
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Gamespot is a joke.ampiva
this ^ Enough said.
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#18 Fusionmix
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I actually thought the PS3 looked pretty good as well. 360 was a distant third, but PS3 was surprisingly almost on par. In some screens, the less detailed lighting let the textures show up better.

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Just on the visuals: anyone else REALLY impressed with the overall scale of the game? Some of those areas are just massive in scope, like where the giant hatch opens up. I thought the pyrotechnics were also really good.
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#20 CellAnimation
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I'm playing Portal 2 on max (incl 16x AA) at 1920x1200, 300 FPS. Yeah sure the consoles are good... :roll:
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#21 John_Read
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Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

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exactly and gow3 beats metro 2033 graphically :lol: gs sucks
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#22 Elann2008
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Just on the visuals: anyone else REALLY impressed with the overall scale of the game? Some of those areas are just massive in scope, like where the giant hatch opens up. I thought the pyrotechnics were also really good. biggest_loser
It's pretty impressive. A nice improvement over the first Portal, apparently. Like some have said, the PC version benefits from higher resolution, sharpness, crisp-ness, clearer picture quality. This might not mean much to some on paper.. but go play Left 4 Dead 2 on Xbox 360, and then play it on the PC and there's a noticeable difference. Just couldn't stand the 360 version. And this generally applies with most Valve games.
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Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

edinsftw
It was technical and having MGS4 on the PS3 perform that well is a greater technical achievement than Crysis on a killer system.
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#24 cain006
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I like how they say pc has AA, AF, and better resolutions, then say 360 is blurry and has more shadows and say that it's not clear which is better. It was pretty obvious the pc looked better than both the console versions in almost all the pictures.

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#25 edinsftw
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

wooooode

It was technical and having MGS4 on the PS3 perform that well is a greater technical achievement than Crysis on a killer system.

Yet many other games look better than mgs4 on consoles, proving it is not that technically impressive. Besides thats not why they gave it to mgs4, they did it simply because their main crowd is console gamers plain and simple. You know what consumers dont like being told? That their xbox or ps3 they bought isnt that great like it was advertised. Consumers will remember who told them what they bought is inferior, and gamespot does not want to be the one who tells them that.

Hell im willing to bet that battlefield 3 will win best graphics because it is not exclusive. Sure it will look decent on consoles, but the pc version will be head and shoulders above the console version and will be the reason it wins best graphics, but why not tell the console gamers they look the same so they can feel warm and fuzzy about their outdated purchase.

Gamespot caters to console gamers. That is their market, and i would do the same if i was running a business focused on gaming because i would really love those payoffs for grand theft auto and other heavily advertised games.

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#26 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

wooooode
It was technical and having MGS4 on the PS3 perform that well is a greater technical achievement than Crysis on a killer system.

MGS4 looked like crap though one of the worst looking games i have played on the ps3 runs in sub-hd and struggles at times to maintain a decent framrate.
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#27 Blistrax
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PC is far better than the consoles for graphics---this is a given. Gamespot's article is absurd. They are rating the three versions of the game as if they are instead rating the three platforms. I can't believe the degree of ignorance in that review. It's so hard to believe that I have to start looking for a motive for Gamespot's excusing Valve's failure to write decent graphics into the PC version. The PC graphics suck because Valve wants them to. It costs more to do it right, and this review lets them off the hook. Besides, the 360 shadows are painted on, and they have hard edges---they stink. I would have bought Portal 2 if it had had good graphics. Oh, well. The review accomplished that much; it saved me a few bucks and a big disappointment.
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I would have bought Portal 2 if it had had good graphics. Oh, well. The review accomplished that much; it saved me a few bucks and a big disappointment.Blistrax

You were expecting stunning graphics from Portal 2, and the graphical fidety was the deciding factor for you in a portal game? Really?.....

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[QUOTE="Blistrax"] I would have bought Portal 2 if it had had good graphics. Oh, well. The review accomplished that much; it saved me a few bucks and a big disappointment.ferret-gamer

You were expecting stunning graphics from Portal 2, and the graphical fidety was the deciding factor for you in a portal game? Really?.....

Yes, really. You seem to be easily mystified, so I'll try to help you understand. The trailers had top-notch graphics---like a Pixar cartoon. When a company bait-and-switches me like that, I resent it so much I won't let them have any of my money. If we all did that, PC game graphics would improve.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="Blistrax"] I would have bought Portal 2 if it had had good graphics. Oh, well. The review accomplished that much; it saved me a few bucks and a big disappointment.Blistrax

You were expecting stunning graphics from Portal 2, and the graphical fidety was the deciding factor for you in a portal game? Really?.....

Yes, really. You seem to be easily mystified, so I'll try to help you understand. The trailers had top-notch graphics---like a Pixar cartoon. When a company bait-and-switches me like that, I resent it so much I won't let them have any of my money. If we all did that, PC game graphics would improve.

They looked like Pixar graphics because they were 3d renders. Nearly all game developers do this, if you only play games that always made their trailers in-engine and in-game graphics then you play very few games.

It was extremely obvious as well, anyone who has been playing games for a while could easily tell those weren't real time graphics. At least the portal 2 trailers actually resembled the game graphics for the most part, something you cant say for most trailers you see for games. You are resenting them because you took a trailer meant for entertainment as a display of gameplay graphics instead of, you know, looking at gameplay videos or screenshots.

And not only that, Portal 2 is still a very nice looking game, sure it isn't heavily modded Crysis, but the game still looks great, the attention to detail is outstanding.

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[QUOTE="Blistrax"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

You were expecting stunning graphics from Portal 2, and the graphical fidety was the deciding factor for you in a portal game? Really?.....

ferret-gamer

Yes, really. You seem to be easily mystified, so I'll try to help you understand. The trailers had top-notch graphics---like a Pixar cartoon. When a company bait-and-switches me like that, I resent it so much I won't let them have any of my money. If we all did that, PC game graphics would improve.

They looked like Pixar graphics because they were 3d renders. Nearly all game developers do this, if you only play games that always made their trailers in-engine and in-game graphics then you play very few games.

It was extremely obvious as well, anyone who has been playing games for a while could easily tell those weren't real time graphics. At least the portal 2 trailers actually resembled the game graphics for the most part, something you cant say for most trailers you see for games. You are resenting them because you took a trailer meant for entertainment as a display of gameplay graphics instead of, you know, looking at gameplay videos or screenshots.

And not only that, Portal 2 is still a very nice looking game, sure it isn't heavily modded Crysis, but the game still looks great, the attention to detail is outstanding.

Everybody talks "modded Crysis". What are they talking about? You don't have to mod Crysis. You are suggesting that amateur fiddlings with settings they have no clue about will improve PC games, and that's what makes them better than consoles? Wrong. The speed and complexity of the hardware does that, if the game programmers would only write for it. My PC can do real-time renders as good as the ones in the Portal trailers---that's what a monster graphics card is for. As long as PC gamers remain uncritical, ill-informed, obedient little consumers, the game companies will keep feeding us feces and telling us it's ice cream. I'm sick and tired of being taken for an idiot.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="Blistrax"] Yes, really. You seem to be easily mystified, so I'll try to help you understand. The trailers had top-notch graphics---like a Pixar cartoon. When a company bait-and-switches me like that, I resent it so much I won't let them have any of my money. If we all did that, PC game graphics would improve.Blistrax

They looked like Pixar graphics because they were 3d renders. Nearly all game developers do this, if you only play games that always made their trailers in-engine and in-game graphics then you play very few games.

It was extremely obvious as well, anyone who has been playing games for a while could easily tell those weren't real time graphics. At least the portal 2 trailers actually resembled the game graphics for the most part, something you cant say for most trailers you see for games. You are resenting them because you took a trailer meant for entertainment as a display of gameplay graphics instead of, you know, looking at gameplay videos or screenshots.

And not only that, Portal 2 is still a very nice looking game, sure it isn't heavily modded Crysis, but the game still looks great, the attention to detail is outstanding.

Everybody talks "modded Crysis". What are they talking about? You don't have to mod Crysis. You are suggesting that amateur fiddlings with settings they have no clue about will improve PC games, and that's what makes them better than consoles? Wrong. The speed and complexity of the hardware does that, if the game programmers would only write for it. My PC can do real-time renders as good as the ones in the Portal trailers---that's what a monster graphics card is for. As long as PC gamers remain uncritical, ill-informed, obedient little consumers, the game companies will keep feeding us feces and telling us it's ice cream. I'm sick and tired of being taken for an idiot.

You have some extremely odd thought processes.

1. I used modded crysis as an example of something that is highly advanced graphically as opposed to portal 2. I am going to ignore your highly ignorant comment about modders since this part of the discussion is irrelevant to what we were earlier talking about.

2. Your PC can't render something comparable to Portal 2's trailers in real time. Even suggesting that signifies you don't know what you are talking about. Even using something like a CUDA render like Octane your GTX 295 is much much too weak to render something like the Portal 2 trailers in real time, escpecially at a high res.

Portal 2 was never about the graphics in the first place, not every dev wants to or has the resources to create a new technilogical masterpiece, portal 2 runs on a heavily modified engine from 2003, everyone knows that. There were many many videos circulation for a long time of the gameplay graphics. Your choosing to boycott an amazing game because Valve create a few trailers for entertainment that arent in-game is just plain sad.

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As long as PC gamers remain uncritical, ill-informed, obedient little consumers, the game companies will keep feeding us feces and telling us it's ice cream. I'm sick and tired of being taken for an idiot. Blistrax

I mean no offense here, but from your raging comments you just described yourself if you thought that was real-time rendering. Your 295 is much to weak to render that stuff in real-time.

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#36 multiplat
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[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Come now, these are the people who gave mgs4 best graphics over crysis warhead.

wooooode
It was technical and having MGS4 on the PS3 perform that well is a greater technical achievement than Crysis on a killer system.

Using this logic, like i said, u can apply this to anything "technical" ...smackdown vs raw 2011 on ps2 is a greater technical achievement since its on PS2. Splinter Cell double agent for the Original Xbox should have won that year too... u c, u gotta be consistent if ur gonna use this "its a great achievement given the platform" Facebook games are a greater technical achievement given that they perform that well on friggin facebook
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[QUOTE="6matt6"]Considering most of the good PC reviewers left GS years ago and PC is pretty much not as reported here as all other platforms I take this with a grain of salt. yellosnolvr
this. i dont even come here for my pc game news/reviews anymore because of this.

Yet you are here instead of PC Gamer forum or something like that. :P

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[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="6matt6"]Considering most of the good PC reviewers left GS years ago and PC is pretty much not as reported here as all other platforms I take this with a grain of salt. Elann2008
this. i dont even come here for my pc game news/reviews anymore because of this.

I second this.

My sentiments, exactly.

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#39 IZoMBiEI
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I come to GS to get opinions about games by the community, I havent read one of their articles in years.

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#40 demonic_85
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I have not played the PS3 version so I cant comment on that, but the PC version looks WAY better than the Xbox 360 version in every aspect.

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#42 Batang_X990
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im kinda happy for ps3 that it's not getting the shortest end of the stick anymore.

sony went through so much crap this console gen i feel kinda bad for the company.

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#43 unca_laguna
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yeah, gotta question the video's justification that shadows make up for a lack or AA of all things. chalk this one up to GS being PC with console gamers (no pun intended).