Prebuilt Computer, what u think a good buy?

well i had another post about building a computer, but i was wondering what u guys think of this

http://www.aeoncraft.com/ac/Store/Configurator.aspx?mid=169&c=468456

I made the comp. an E6420

i took away the speaker, mouse, and keyboard

the total with the tax and 5% off is

$882

That cuts the budget for me down, so that y im wondering if u guys think this is a good buy, notice its dual

8500gt, do u think i should change the 1gb ddr2 to 2gb or leave it since i dont plan on overclocking or what?

If u guys think this is good im also going to buy a monitor from newegg.com much cheaper than adding the price on to the comp. form the site.

This is the monitor i would throw in wiht the comp.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254001

well let me know what uguys think of this

Those setups arent bad. The price is not too overpriced and pretty good quality parts.

A different PSU. Get a single card -8800Gts 320GB. And try to fit in 2GB of RAM.

ok ill try that and c if i can still keep it reasonably cheap ill send link

Anyone???Hoshslatz

I'd say get the 550W version.

If you are on a budget, go with an AMD system. WhiteSnake5000

Whats the major diff. between Intel and AMD

[QUOTE="WhiteSnake5000"]If you are on a budget, go with an AMD system. Hoshslatz

Whats the major diff. between Intel and AMD

Intel has the better CPUs right now. The whole Core 2 Duo lineup is excellent. Even the lowly E2140 beats the x2 3800+. Anyways, its not like AMD is a slouch, theyre releasing new CPUs coming up here this 2nd half of 2007, but they will be compatible with their current socket am2+.

suggestionss on what AMD i should getHoshslatz

Well depends on if you overclock and what your price range is on a CPU from AMD.

Hey man if your budget can afford any of these totals id go for it ! lets see what other guys say though but this set up looks awsome. See man i told you in last post i wouldn't let you down man we are or where in the same boat so try this out and then see.

Hi i was wondering if you guys could tell me if this would be any good Rig and if there is anything you would change.As this is my first build i do not know much about compatibility please help us on this?

....PSU....

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=115880&_LOC=UK

PRICE = £89.99

....Proccesor....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/112706/rb/0

PRICE = £140.43

....HARDRIVE....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115418

PRICE = £49.68

....RAM....

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/114728/rb/0

PRICE = £67.65

....GRAPHICS....

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=127949&_LOC=UK

PRICE = £433.22 ULTRA OVERCLOCKED XFX

....SOUNDCARD....
????????????????? which also goes for speakers ?????????????????
....OPTICAL DRIVE....

Disk Type: CD-Rom Audio
Peripheral
Type: ATAPI
Model
PHILIPS DVDR1628P1

Recordable: Yes

PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS IS COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.

....CASE....

http://www.xcase.co.uk/p/290405/a-case-twin-engine-bb-with-2-x-250mm-fans---no-psu-black.html

PRICE = £69.99

....OS....

Windows vista http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=windows+vista+home+premium

(home premium)

....MOTHERBOARD....

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=560973

PRICE = £159.79

....NETWORK CARD....

Will this be compatible please tell us !! Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC

Total without OS = £1010.75p This is the total with that graphics card one of the best avilable if not the best.

Total without OS and A really good GTS = £861.88 this is an amazing option not only was it tested with the Motherboard its suppost to be lightning fast.Obviously not quite as good as the GTX but if you where going to play on say mabye 17" to a 22" monitor this would be very fast along with the Core 2 duo E660 and the PSU.

And last but Not least the Total with A good GTX = £959.40 I would recomend this one out of the lot of them just because it is the Mid range card out of these three cards and at this price it is unbelievable and i would grab this one i i was you because i am if i don't get Ultra because this GTX is Super fast.

Hope this helps.

IF ANYONE SEES ANYTHING IN MY UPCOMING RIG THAT THEY THINK SHOULD BE CHANGED AND OR ISN'T COMPATIBLE WITH THE REST OF THE STUFF PLEASE TELL ME OR SEND ME A PM THANKS.

GTX = http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4DFC&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=XFX+GeForce+8800GTX&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

GTS = http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4D8Q&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=XFX+GeForce+8800GTS+640MB+DDR3+PCIE+Dual+DVI+XXX+ED&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

there you go

Okay give me your price limit. Ill get you a PC done in 3 mins here.9mmSpliff

Of Just the Comp with the OS, no Monitor included i have a choice for that alrdy, i would say my price range would be

$600-$750, that is about where i stand. Thnx for your help in advance

Motherboard:
Gigabyte GA-965P S3 - $100 (The DS3 is better, but this is a nice board)

CPU:
Intel E2140 @ 1.6ghz - $81 (performs with a AMD64 x2 3800+)

RAM:
2x1gb Supertalent DDR2-800 - $82 (Good RAM company and this RAM can hit 1000Mhz when overclocked @ 5-5-5-15)

GPU:
eVGA 8800gts 320mb - $280 (Great card and very futureproofed at 12x10)

HDD:
Western Digital 160gb/8mb cache - $53 (great HDD company)

Optical:
LiteOn 20x12x20 DVD/RW - $32 (good DVD company)

PSU:
FSP Group 450wt - $58 (Top 5 PSU manufacturers in the world)

Case:
Coolermaster Centurion 5 - $50 (Best case for the price on the market and very very liked amongst modding community)

Operating System:
Windows XP Home w/ SP2 [OEM] - $90 (Dont know if you want Vista or not. I would do XP if I was building)

Total $825


Now I know you want to stay in that price bracket, so throw aSapphire x1950xt 256mbin there. Then the total of verything comes to $725. If you need Dx10 cards and the 8800gts is too much, there is this eVGA with a nice factory overclock on it. Its$195.

yeh thats a gr8 low price tag rig but i thought he said he wanted to shadowrn and for that im sure you need vista DX10 and atleast a GTS so the rig you wrote up is good for him the only other thing he would need is vista home premium or somthing go on ebay to get that.jjc273

ahh good call. I didnt even think about Shadowrun on Vista. Yeah so there is a Home Basic from M$, its the same price. but the OEM Vistas I heard are the ones that limit your hardware swapping. Motherbaords mainly though. But good suggestion on the eBay part. I myself am doing Vista Home Premium 32it on a separate HDD.

there is something coming to Linux, Mac and Window XP called the Alky Project. Its to get Dx10 games running on those OSes and shoudl be here by end of July for beta.

im fine with the AMD althoough im usually an Intel guy, but i have to draw the line at ATI, unless u can convince me otherwise, because i dont no to much about them compared to the GT, and GS and whatnot. But can u guys explain me a lil bout the AMD and ATI compared to Intel and GeforceHoshslatz

well first off that Intel E2140 is a sweet CPU and if you want nvidia, then stick with nvidia. Intel is diong a 50% price cut on July 22, so you might be able to get a better CPU then, but RAM prices should go up to balance it out.

Do the 8600gts then and Vista Home Basic 32bit with the Intel E2140. Im out now, I jsut came back cause I heard a bunch of beeps coming from my PC and it was this program and people are being annoying with messages. Peace now though.

[QUOTE="Hoshslatz"]im fine with the AMD althoough im usually an Intel guy, but i have to draw the line at ATI, unless u can convince me otherwise, because i dont no to much about them compared to the GT, and GS and whatnot. But can u guys explain me a lil bout the AMD and ATI compared to Intel and Geforce9mmSpliff

well first off that Intel E2140 is a sweet CPU and if you want nvidia, then stick with nvidia. Intel is diong a 50% price cut on July 22, so you might be able to get a better CPU then, but RAM prices should go up to balance it out.

Do the 8600gts then and Vista Home Basic 32bit with the Intel E2140. Im out now, I jsut came back cause I heard a bunch of beeps coming from my PC and it was this program and people are being annoying with messages. Peace now though.

LOL ty man, i guess ill wait until the end of july, to buy cpu i hvae so much to choose from. Im trying hard to find an affordable but good pc, if anyone wants to help me out immensouly, can u list a good afforadable comp. wiht intel and geforce as grfx and cpu, take into consideration the price cut, speaking of what cpus r they price cutting, all of them or some of tem?

i figure ill just get the second gig of ram sperate its plus 137 thats bit more than i want to pay for just on extra, and ill change the card to 8800gts. Also i was wondering what PSU i should get thats on the list.Hoshslatz

GTS or GT? Just wondering cause i want the better of the 2Hoshslatz

GTS.

If you go with the setup I gave you, it can overclock up to 3.0Ghz no probs, ofcourse with a better CPU cooler. The GeForce 7950gt is a nice card too. Since you dont like ATI. You dont need a Dx10 card to play Shadowrun or any Dx10 game, just need Vista. Its a sales technique. You can hold off with a Dx9 card till you ahve more money.

Okay first off, I love AMD. I have had them for the past 2 gens. I have built about 11 of them of the 30 something I have built. I was going to get a X2 6000+ with an ASUS Crosshair and have some 3.5Ghz @ 1.5v fun :D. Then I got offered a E6600 for $100cdn, I took it. Only an idiot wouldnt, no matter how big a fanboy you are. lol.

So I took it and then had a friend of a friend in Calgary heard I liked PCs and I told him I just got an E6600 and he said he couldnt find one he needed right away. So I sold it to him for $175cdn. I went back to the store asked to see if they happened to just another one and they didnt. they said though, that they did have E6420 for $75 used 3 months too, but returned and they tore it apart and sold the parts seperately. I took it, cause again, only an idiot would pass that up.

I grab a gigabyte GA965P DS3 (Wish they had a P35 DS3R), 2x1gb Mushkin Black (Cancelled my old order of OCZ at the other store). I will say one thing. This CPU, is pretty sweet. I love it. It makes my x2 4400+ look slow in games, i can jsut do everything in programs and applications a bit faster. I can even run a bit more when I stressed the CPU then my x2 4400. I even had that x2 4400 @ 2.7Ghz on stock volts 4 days before I shipped the PC off and it just didnt seem to compete. My scores in 3dmarks were lower. I hit 8821 on 3dmark06 compared to my 9115 with the intel.

I can run Cell Factor like butter now maxed (except per-pixel motion blur). Even my x2 4400 @ 2.7ghz had some stuttering in it. It was a fresh install too, cause I sold him it setup with a HOME XP copy on his HDD with all virus protecion etc and some games. Cell Factor if you have the PC, is pretty fun, but gets boring after a while with bots only. Soon there should be online, considering they just had the first LAN for it and it was a huge success.

I honestly have now become a fence sitter for CPUs. I am now planning on getting a Q6600 and giving my mom this CPU and RAM. She loves it too, we loaded some of her programs on and gave it a whirl. Shes liked it more then her AMD x2 5200 setup I built for her with 2x1gb and a 7600gt (Sims 2/Sim City shes plays @ 12x10).

So I say go Intel and this is coming from an AMD fan. I say go for that setup I showed you, with an eVGA/XFX/BFG 8600gts /7950gt since you love nVidia. That system will be able to hit 3.0ghz if you wanted to learn to overclock, which would make that CPU perform around a Intel E6700 @ 2.67Ghz. Both those cards will run ShadowRun well. The 7950gt is a more powerful card, but the 8600gts has Dx10. A single 8600gts will run games on highest to max right now @ 12x10.

If this was my decision, Im tight on money, but want to experience the new tech. Get the Intel E2140, 2x1gb Super Talent/Crucial Ballistix and the 8600gts with Vista Home Basic 32bit.

Okay first off, I love AMD. I have had them for the past 2 gens. I have built about 11 of them of the 30 something I have built. I was going to get a X2 6000+ with an ASUS Crosshair and have some 3.5Ghz @ 1.5v fun :D. Then I got offered a E6600 for $100cdn, I took it. Only an idiot wouldnt, no matter how big a fanboy you are. lol.

So I took it and then had a friend of a friend in Calgary heard I liked PCs and I told him I just got an E6600 and he said he couldnt find one he needed right away. So I sold it to him for $175cdn. I went back to the store asked to see if they happened to just another one and they didnt. they said though, that they did have E6420 for $75 used 3 months too, but returned and they tore it apart and sold the parts seperately. I took it, cause again, only an idiot would pass that up.

I grab a gigabyte GA965P DS3 (Wish they had a P35 DS3R), 2x1gb Mushkin Black (Cancelled my old order of OCZ at the other store). I will say one thing. This CPU, is pretty sweet. I love it. It makes my x2 4400+ look slow in games, i can jsut do everything in programs and applications a bit faster. I can even run a bit more when I stressed the CPU then my x2 4400. I even had that x2 4400 @ 2.7Ghz on stock volts 4 days before I shipped the PC off and it just didnt seem to compete. My scores in 3dmarks were lower. I hit 8821 on 3dmark06 compared to my 9115 with the intel.

I can run Cell Factor like butter now maxed (except per-pixel motion blur). Even my x2 4400 @ 2.7ghz had some stuttering in it. It was a fresh install too, cause I sold him it setup with a HOME XP copy on his HDD with all virus protecion etc and some games. Cell Factor if you have the PC, is pretty fun, but gets boring after a while with bots only. Soon there should be online, considering they just had the first LAN for it and it was a huge success.

I honestly have now become a fence sitter for CPUs. I am now planning on getting a Q6600 and giving my mom this CPU and RAM. She loves it too, we loaded some of her programs on and gave it a whirl. Shes liked it more then her AMD x2 5200 setup I built for her with 2x1gb and a 7600gt (Sims 2/Sim City shes plays @ 12x10).

So I say go Intel and this is coming from an AMD fan. I say go for that setup I showed you, with an eVGA/XFX/BFG 8600gts /7950gt since you love nVidia. That system will be able to hit 3.0ghz if you wanted to learn to overclock, which would make that CPU perform around a Intel E6700 @ 2.67Ghz. Both those cards will run ShadowRun well. The 7950gt is a more powerful card, but the 8600gts has Dx10. A single 8600gts will run games on highest to max right now @ 12x10.

If this was my decision, Im tight on money, but want to experience the new tech. Get the Intel E2140, 2x1gb Super Talent/Crucial Ballistix and the 8600gts with Vista Home Basic 32bit.

9mmSpliff

im perfectly fine wiht what u r saying, but im assuming u r saying that i should forget the aeoncraft and just build my own, well im gonna go try the build u gave me and look at it on newegg and make the changes ineed to then ill let u no how much it is and links to it.

WEll heres what i got, bit higher than i wanted but i put the monitor in so its ntb. What u think i changed some sstuff u said. Check it out and let me no of changes and whatnotHoshslatz

4got to put links lol

MOBO- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012

CPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115013

RAM- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820609226

HD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

OPTICAL- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106055

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104954

CASE- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119077

OS- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202

VID CARD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130086

MONITOR- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005

After u answer the first questions i was wondering if u could tell me if this setup could run FEAR, or even CRYSIS, thats the game everyone wants there comp. to run it seemsHoshslatz

At your resolution, you will max out FEAR with no Soft Shadows, which arent important anyways for FEAR.

Crysis, I couldnt tell you, but last year a 7800gtx in a demo @ 12x10 ran it on high, not max though. Probably no AA or AF. Now recetly it just ran on a QX6700, 2x1gb and 8800gtx @ 19x12 around 40fps. Those demos were in Dx9. I couldnt tell you how Dx10 will perform as patched games seem to do horribly, but Call of Juarez @ 19x12 on a QX6700, 4x1, 8800gtx ran 30-40fps maxed out on a Union members PC. that was in Dx10.

If you ever want to overclock and get crazy with your PC. That CPU is a major clocker, that board is a great clocker too, the Mushkin is nice RAM or the Corsair. the 8600gts is an insane overclocker.

alright sweet, thats good to no i can stay under a 1000 and still have a great system, as for the Ram ill go wiht the Mushkin.

I was also wondering if the stock fans ans stuff r fine or should i get diff. and could u explain, i mean i no what overclocking is but i have no idea how to do it or whether its something i want ro should do. Coulld u also explain what 19x12 around 40fps means, im still new to the terms of PC even though ive learned quitea bit about them alrdy.

19x12 is a resolution for screens (1900x1200) and 40fps is 40 frames per second. You will hear 12x10, 16x12, 16x10, and many more. Theyre just resolutions.

STock fans are fine for that CPU, although Intel ones are known to be a bit loud. If you want to do some proper overclocking, take that stock Intel cooler off and put a Arctic Freezer 7 Pro on if you want an inexpensive but very effective CPU cooler.

The best cooler is the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme ($65cdn) and you still need fan for it. You could take that CPU to over 3.0Ghz no problems on either CPU cooler. Just one will run hotter then another. Core 2 Duos are sweet overclockers all avg over 3.0ghz

Witht the GFX CARD I noticed that it doesnt come wiht a DVI cable but only adaptord what do u suggest to fix this problemHoshslatz

The DVI adapter will attach to the GPU, then take the long monitor cable you have. It is changing the DVI end of the GPU to an Analog end, so it can take older monitors too.

BTW i would like to add u to friends if thats ok cause u have helped me tremendouslyHoshslatz

I have no problem if you want to add me as a friend.

suggestionss on what AMD i should getHoshslatz

any dual core cpu is fine for new games. the 3600 x2/3800x2 are both grerat buget dual cores.