Pretty Effin Sad When F.E.A.R. is still one of the best FPS Shooters out there?

Here I am just starting the 10th plus playthru of F.E.A.R. since it came out. I kid you not.....ten plus is how many times I have played this game since when it came out. As I finish the level where ALMA shows up right at the end and then you jump thru the window to get away from her flames. I'm thinking " Jeez! I've played every major fps of the last two years and nothing gives me the feeling of anticipation, excitement, adrenaline rush, like good ole F.E.A.R. Don't get me wrong the PC games industry is strong, and not counting FPS, every other genre has made strides in keeping things fresh, yet my fav of all just sucks! The FPS genre is just so sad right now. There's nothing that I can think of that even comes close to games like F.E.A.R. in the last few years. I'm going to say that S.T.A.L.K.E.R. SHOC is right there with FEAR, but it's a hybrid of sorts. I'm talking straight up shooters like Prey, Doom, and of course, F.E.A.R. It is my sincerest hope that if there's one genre that makes a stong comeback in terms of epic, adrenaline rush, full of tension, great gunplay and a total focus on SINGLE PLAYER I hope it's the FPS genre. It's way overdue for a new title that blows us away like F.E.A.R. does even today. I'm turning up the 5.1 and heading back to meet up with Alma and Fattel. Outta here.......::)

For single player, the first Crysis was like that for me. Spent many hours attacking the same spots using different styles and screwing around with the physics. For better or worse this whole topic largely comes down to taste however. I'd argue that Counterstrike is still the best fps shooter :D

FEAR is a pretty good game, but TEN playthroughs? Sounds more like you have a preference for the game more than anything else.

Unreal Tournament 2004.

FEAR is a pretty good game, but TEN playthroughs? Sounds more like you have a preference for the game more than anything else.

ShimmerMan

:D

fear was good but i def. wouldnt play through it again too much of the game was centered around the creep factor and less about the players involvement. it was also a corridor shooter with mediocre AI. it was good for its day but its a far cry from what todays games offer. which is why fear 2 & 3 suck so much ---

FEAR is a pretty good game, but TEN playthroughs? Sounds more like you have a preference for the game more than anything else.

ShimmerMan

which is why fear 2 & 3 suck so much ---

ionusX

FEAR 2 doesn't suck, It's definitely under-rated.

I played through it 2 or 3 times, partly to see how it looked when I upgraded my computer over the years.

Its one of my favourite sraight FPS games ever.

It's not sad when you consider how well FEAR has aged. Sure, the graphics, in all their cuby glory, don't look as impressive as they did back then (though by no means bad), but the gameplay and pacing is still pretty amazing. The only problems are the relative lack of different enemies and some monotony in the environments, but other than that it's a bloody good game.

I disagree, however, that the FPS genre has not progressed. I don't see how Stalker wouldn't count 'as it's a hybrid'. It's as much as a straight-up shooter as FEAR is. The RPG elements are really light and the survival horror-like stuff doesn't really transcend the borders of the FPS genre. Other than Stalker, you also have the Crysis series (especially 1 & Warhead), the Arma series, BioShock 1 and 2 and Metro 2033 that prove that the genre hasn't stood still over the past few years. Quite on the contrary, I thought this generation has been great for first person shooters.

This thread makes me sad that I didn't buy it when it was $5 last year during Halloween. :(

This just might be my longest post yet:

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Dozens of better shooters came out since FEAR.

By the way, I never understood the fascination with FEAR's weapons. The shotgun and autocannon were boss, but everything else felt like cardboard weapons to me. Especially the assault rifle, I hate that gun.

Dozens of better shooters came out since FEAR.

By the way, I never understood the fascination with FEAR's weapons. The shotgun and autocannon were boss, but everything else felt like cardboard weapons to me. Especially the assault rifle, I hate that gun.

Baranga

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Dozens of better shooters came out since FEAR.

By the way, I never understood the fascination with FEAR's weapons. The shotgun and autocannon were boss, but everything else felt like cardboard weapons to me. Especially the assault rifle, I hate that gun.

ionusX

Painkiller did it better:P

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[QUOTE="Baranga"]

Dozens of better shooters came out since FEAR.

By the way, I never understood the fascination with FEAR's weapons. The shotgun and autocannon were boss, but everything else felt like cardboard weapons to me. Especially the assault rifle, I hate that gun.

Baranga

Painkiller did it better:P

Yeah but so are the Half-Life games so I don't see your point. I guess you don't like new games? You could just like, not play them. It would save you money on upgrading too I guess.

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[QUOTE="ionusX"] as did i though the gun that fired those big stakes was also rather satisfying. nothing says die like pinning someone to a wall with a tree

GuitarPAaron

Painkiller did it better:P

half life's one couldnt lob grenades

Not sure why people say Hard Reset was a good old-school throwback when it gets the movement and level design so terribly wrong. Maybe it's because you only shoot and collect stuff? That's not old-school. That's braindead. It needs some meat on those bones.

Pretty Effin sad when there are still fanboys for a dead game...Jebus213

Great games don't die. :) I still have a 1tb drive full of pre 2003 games and emulators that get more play time than anything currently. If you are not into online shooters and MMO's then you quite often find yourself playing the old stuff. I'm finishing Dracula X Rondo of Blood for the TG 16 CD right now and having a heck of alot more fun than anything I have bought this year. My next game I plan on finishing is Super Mario World series on the SNES. That will keep me busy until Metro Last Light, Prey 2, and Stalker Lost Alpha come out.

yep it's the only game I have ever replayed immediately after finishing it.couly

Exactly! It's the only game I can immediately start back up after beating it. That is truly the mark of a good game. I realize this is subjective, so please don't think I'm saying F.E.A.R. owns all. I know alot of you won't enjoy it as much as I do, but to me personally it's still one of the best FPS out today.

Not really, I thought that game was waaay too easy. The slow mo ability is overpowered beyond imagination. It also makes the combat very repetitive to a certain extent.

i never liked the game. The environment all industrial and in the same building is a real turnoff, I like an adventure in my fps. The AI is simply amazing tho.JigglyWiggly_

FEAR is god tier

no argument there

Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite cerebral. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite a cerebral experience. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

retrogamer1971

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Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite a cerebral experience. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

Elann2008

sorry :oops:

I would disagree in regards to FC 2. It tends to be a real love it or hate it type game. I happen to love it. The official reviews don't really reflect what the gaming community actually says about the game.

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Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite a cerebral experience. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

retrogamer1971

sorry :oops:

I would disagree in regards to FC 2. It tends to be a real love it or hate it type game. I happen to love it. The official reviews don't really reflect what the gaming community actually says about the game.

i dont think thats sad at all.

F.E.A.R. sucked. The level design was simply awful

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which is why fear 2 & 3 suck so much ---

ShimmerMan

FEAR 2 doesn't suck, It's definitely under-rated.

Dont forget Half Life! Those games you can play alot :D

But a game that i Reeeeealy like is Dead Space and Dead Space 2. Its not FPS but it's so freeking good!

Those games gives me adrenaline and ''joy'', maby its a wrong word for a game like dead space but i know what i mean :)

you want to know what's even more sad is that i still think that the original DOOM games are the best FPS ever and i still play it every now and then TheGrudge13

Same here man....same here.....:)

One of the best FPS games I've ever played, bar none. Closest game to the visceral feeling of the combat in FEAR would be Dead Space 1/2, but the third person perspective makes for a very different experience (and the console controls).

Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite cerebral. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

retrogamer1971

Hm, I have to disagree. I played a lot of Far Cry 2, and I did really enjoy it at times because the gunplay and atmosphere are incredible, but the complaints about the game are just. The lack of friendly AI, the horribly designed sandbox world (with tons of untraversable terrain) and the remaining AI problems (respawning, auto-aim, rubberband jeeps, etc.) made the game more cheap than I could handle at times. Something tells me it would've worked much better as a more linear shooter with sandbox elements, because the final part of the game (which is more or less linear) is absolutely terrific.

Wait, how did we get from FEAR to Far Cry 2?

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Subjectivity is such a fickle thing for us gamers. I actually enjoyed Far Cry 2. :) Once you open yourself up to the experience rather than "play" the game it really becomes quite cerebral. The biggest issue with the respawning checkpoints is easily dealt with by always carrying a explosive bow or grenade launcher within your loadout. In the middle to later parts of the game it becomes much less of an issue due to your unlocking all the safe houses and guard posts. I actually htink FC 2 is much better than Crysis and just very underrated. It also does the best job ever of creating a sandbox world where you feel like you are there.

DraugenCP

Hm, I have to disagree. I played a lot of Far Cry 2, and I did really enjoy it at times because the gunplay and atmosphere are incredible, but the complaints about the game are just. The lack of friendly AI, the horribly designed sandbox world (with tons of untraversable terrain) and the remaining AI problems (respawning, auto-aim, rubberband jeeps, etc.) made the game more cheap than I could handle at times. Something tells me it would've worked much better as a more linear shooter with sandbox elements, because the final part of the game (which is more or less linear) is absolutely terrific.

Wait, how did we get from FEAR to Far Cry 2?

I derailed my own thread.:D

In regards to your feeling about FC 2. I'd agree on the lack of friendly AI, but everything else just doesn't bother me the way it does you. The enemy AI can be quite good at times. In fact, it's sometimes unfair and really makes you think about how you approach your objectives. You have to use your brain and select the proper weapons along with using the terrain to mask your movements. The respawning checkpoints is a non issue for me as I use the bus system extensively and always keep a grenade launcher on me to take out jeeps and checkpoints. Later on in the game as you scout more guard post the repsawn issue is almost neglible.

Pretty Effin Sad When F.E.A.R. is still one of the best FPS Shooters out there?

retrogamer1971

Not really. Why do you ask that?

fear was good but i def. wouldnt play through it again too much of the game was centered around the creep factor and less about the players involvement. it was also a corridor shooter with mediocre AI. it was good for its day but its a far cry from what todays games offer. which is why fear 2 & 3 suck so much ---

ionusX

What drugs were you on when playing the game?

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fear was good but i def. wouldnt play through it again too much of the game was centered around the creep factor and less about the players involvement. it was also a corridor shooter with mediocre AI. it was good for its day but its a far cry from what todays games offer. which is why fear 2 & 3 suck so much ---

Socijalisticka

What drugs were you on when playing the game?

And when i say play the game i mean on hard! We are pc gamers and have the mouse and keybored, the superior controls and have to play the game the way it was meant to be played. On the hardest difficulty, because quiet frankly the mouse is a f****** beast beyond comprehension.

And when i say play the game i mean on hard! We are pc gamers and have the mouse and keybored, the superior controls and have to play the game the way it was meant to be played. On the hardest difficulty, because quiet frankly the mouse is a f****** beast beyond comprehension.

Travis_Odell

I don't even use slo mo at all. I think it sucks all the challenge out of the game. If I want easy I''ll go play the Wii. :)

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And when i say play the game i mean on hard! We are pc gamers and have the mouse and keybored, the superior controls and have to play the game the way it was meant to be played. On the hardest difficulty, because quiet frankly the mouse is a f****** beast beyond comprehension.

retrogamer1971

I don't even use slo mo at all. I think it sucks all the challenge out of the game. If I want easy I''ll go play the Wii. :)